Nvidia RTX 4000 Launch

[FourWheelDrift]

They will be an improvement, but when seeing a 4090 laptop, it's not a 4090. They are actually a 4080 due to the reduction in specs needed to not cook plastic if it was a 4090. Naturally the 4080 laptops are a further reduction too, with the same 192 bit memory bus as the 4070 Ti and with even fewer cores.

4090 GPU has 16384 cuda cores
4090 laptop has 9728 cuda cores
4080 GPU has 9728 cuda cores

4090 GPU has a 384 bit Memory interface
4090 laptop has a 256-bit memory interface
4080 GPU has a 256-bit memory interface

4090 GPU has 24 GB RAM
4090 laptop has 16 GB RAM
4080 GPU has 16 GB RAM.

4090 GPU uses the AD102 chip
4090 laptop uses the AD103 chip
4080 GPU uses the AD103 chip[

[pquinn]

Scraping off the marketing fluff I guess a 4080 level GPU will still be adequate and a decent step up from the previous gen.

At least the timing is right for them to be an option.

[Brainpox]

The weird thing about this gen is that although ridiculously priced, the software features will make them viable for longer. The latest upscaling update for DLSS is excellent now that they have removed sharpening, and with the 4000 series you get frame generation to double your frame rate on top.

If you're looking at hardware only it's a backwards step but the end user experience will still be better.

[FourWheelDrift]

Telegram FE part alert "ping"

More European stuff....oh and UK. Have they got more 4090 stock...No, more 4080. Hadn't they better sell the 4080s they have had since December first?

[simonwhite2000]

Still cant believe they have the 4080 at £1199 even though they are clearly not selling.

[Lucas Ayde]

simonwhite2000 said:

Still cant believe they have the 4080 at £1199 even though they are clearly not selling.

I do wonder how expensive these things are to make - booking a big wodge of TSMCs 4nm fabrication capacity during the chip shortage must have cost Nvidia a lot of money.

[OpenToeSlipper]

FourWheelDrift said:

Telegram FE part alert "ping"

More European stuff....oh and UK. Have they got more 4090 stock...No, more 4080. Hadn't they better sell the 4080s they have had since December first?

What telegram channel are you using for stock alerts for GPUs etc?

[FourWheelDrift]

Lucas Ayde said:

I do wonder how expensive these things are to make - booking a big wodge of TSMCs 4nm fabrication capacity during the chip shortage must have cost Nvidia a lot of money.

Costs Nvidia $300 to manufacture an RTX 4080 - https://www.hardwaretimes.com/nvidia-rtx-4080-alle...

[130R]

I installed a 4090 Suprim X to replace my 3090 Suprim X this morning. I've only done a few tests but it seems awesome so far. The card is silent with the gaming BIOS and default fan profile except for some barely audible coil whine at very high frame rates (> 200 fps). For 3D rendering a render that took 24 minutes 37 seconds with the 3090 takes 13 minutes 35 seconds with the 4090. Temps are also lower across the board (64C max so far, which was running Time Spy). Stock the card uses about 300W rendering with a max so far of 429W in Time Spy.

[cadmunkey]

130R said:

I installed a 4090 Suprim X to replace my 3090 Suprim X this morning. I've only done a few tests but it seems awesome so far. The card is silent with the gaming BIOS and default fan profile except for some barely audible coil whine at very high frame rates (> 200 fps). For 3D rendering a render that took 24 minutes 37 seconds with the 3090 takes 13 minutes 35 seconds with the 4090. Temps are also lower across the board (64C max so far, which was running Time Spy). Stock the card uses about 300W rendering with a max so far of 429W in Time Spy.

Decent jump in times for the rendering. Might have to invest if I can ever get a founders card in a drop.

[FourWheelDrift]

cadmunkey said:

Decent jump in times for the rendering. Might have to invest if I can ever get a founders card in a drop.

Follow FE Part alert on Telegram unlike the 30xx series crypto-card problems when they went in seconds the 4090 drops hang around available for hours.

[Lucas Ayde]

FourWheelDrift said:

cadmunkey said:

Decent jump in times for the rendering. Might have to invest if I can ever get a founders card in a drop.

Follow FE Part alert on Telegram unlike the 30xx series crypto-card problems when they went in seconds the 4090 drops hang around available for hours.

Unfortuntely NVidia (and to a lesser extent AMD) don't seem to have got the message that the silly prices that people were paying a year or so back were down to crypto-mania and not gamers who were willing and able to fork over huge sums. Hence the pricing that we are seeing today.

If the 4090 was £1100 and the 4080 was £700 with the 4070Ti at say £550, they would be flying off the shelves and out of stock almost immediately.

[cadmunkey]

Agree, pricing has got out of hand. They did drop them £100 when GBP rose against the dollar but still overpriced.

[130R]

31,492 in Time Spy: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35822455

I think the GPU would go a bit further because it didn't crash but not too bad a score with a 5950X.

[thatsprettyshady]

130R said:

31,492 in Time Spy: https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35822455

I think the GPU would go a bit further because it didn't crash but not too bad a score with a 5950X.

Don't 3dMark now insist on ECC being enabled or else they void the run? there were a whole bunch of mega scores deleted recently because the memory was pushed too high and bugged.

[130R]

thatsprettyshady said:

Don't 3dMark now insist on ECC being enabled or else they void the run? there were a whole bunch of mega scores deleted recently because the memory was pushed too high and bugged.

I think enabling ECC results in a pretty significant performance drop. Maybe they insist on that for some official runs (?) but it shows a valid result with ECC disabled.

[Lucas Ayde]

Whatever the popular backlash against NVidia, their business strategy is certainly succeeding:

https://www.barrons.com/articles/nvidia-wall-stree...

.. stock up almost 15% in early trading.

[FourWheelDrift]

4090 FEs in stock, from 15:53.

https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/gpu/?...

Lets how long they last.

[B0bajobbob]

FourWheelDrift said:

4090 FEs in stock, from 15:53.

https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/gpu/?...

Lets how long they last.

I'm tempted but frankly the price is absolutely ridiculous even for a rich early adopting tech nerd. The only way I can see myself upgrading my 2080ti in the near future is by drunk ordering a card after a night out.

[Lucas Ayde]

Hurry, hurry! Get your £1200 ready, 4080s available .....

(from the Part Alert discord/telegram)

Scan UK
FE Nvidia GeForce RTX 4080 (UK)
Price
£1,199.00 at 14:01:05 UTC
Link
https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/gpu/?...
Nvidia Store (if main link is broken)
https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/s...

.. you do have £1200 going spare, right ?

OK, how about a bargain 3090 Ti then?


Scan UK
FE Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 Ti (UK)
Price
£1,149.00 at 14:00:37 UTC
Link
https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/store/gpu/?...
Nvidia Store (if main link is broken)
https://store.nvidia.com/en-gb/geforce/s...

.. Who sames NVidia don't have something for budget buyers!