Talk to me about Superdukes

Talk to me about Superdukes

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MOBB

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3,609 posts

127 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Despite only having my 660 Tuono for a few months, these have caught my interest. What really interested me though was my insurance quote was cheaper for a 1290 SDR than the 660, bizarre.

So YouTube etc followed, could be my kind of bike. I've ridden an 890 Duke and was very impressed with the engine, the 1290 must be hilarious.

My riding tends to be the odd commute, and shortish blats on back roads - always loved V twins and grunt over top end rush.

I'm a naked bike lover, in the past I've had;

- Ducati Streetfighter 1098 - great bike but I never really gelled with it 100%, dont know why
- various Speed Triples, 955, 1050 - always loved them, little underpowered perhaps.
- Ducati Diavel - an utter beast but I couldnt get past the stupidly harsh ride

I've also ridden Fireblades and an S1000RR for context, but I think I'll stick with upright bikes.

Looking at prices, a gen 1 seems to be £8k or so, gen 2 £10k or so - I probably want the better electronics so was leaning towards a 2018 or so bike.

However there are some brand new gen 3 evo bikes available for £14.5k or so at the moment which is tempting, but does Euro 5 make these a duller bike?

Any experiences welcome :-)


airsafari87

2,579 posts

182 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Don’t bother with them.
An SV650 is much faster.

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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airsafari87 said:
Don’t bother with them.
An SV650 is much faster.
LOL- I've got my own PH legend.

Have a ride of one. I found the throttle quite artificial feeling but think I would get used to it.

I think I'm still going to buy one.

I've been watching the market closely and think dealers are keen to shift stock before the facelift bike comes on sale next year.

That being said I think you'll do well to find a new Evo OTR for less than £15k. I certainly haven't seen any although ex-demos are around the figure you quote.

Edited to add - with the Tech Pack which you want and even if you didn't would affect resale if you didn't have it. Retail the Tech Pack is £1,100 I think but I've seen deals at around £600 and some as a package which would ultimately be less.

Edited by trickywoo on Monday 21st November 12:00

Freakuk

3,143 posts

151 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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I've got a 2020 Gen3, and it's by far the best road bike I've owned. It's not as razor sharp as a sportsbike handling wise, but would it ever be?

It's a pussycat around two, and once you wind it on it's brutal, other than the slightly newer Evo (which is the same bike with electronic suspension) I cannot see me moving to anything else.

The Gen3 does get a swingarm pivot unlike earlier generations, and different ergo's more weight on your wrists (nothing compared to an sportsbike though).

Tech pack is a must, and heated grips out of the box, plus 3rd party stuff like rad guard, tail tidy, exhaust, usual stuff.

MOBB

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3,609 posts

127 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/20221028...

Need to add OTR costs but its pretty cheap - I wonder how much lower they will go before xmas?

Is the EVO worth the extra?


trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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MOBB said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/20221028...

Need to add OTR costs but its pretty cheap - I wonder how much lower they will go before xmas?
That's not the Evo. You can find new base models for £13.5k quite easily.



MOBB

Original Poster:

3,609 posts

127 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Edited just after you posted :-)

Is the EVO worth the extra?

Freakuk

3,143 posts

151 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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MOBB said:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/20221028...

Need to add OTR costs but its pretty cheap - I wonder how much lower they will go before xmas?
Usual for price drops this time of year, it's non-Evo so about 2K off list, but states you can buy the tech pack for £699.

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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MOBB said:
Edited just after you posted :-)

Is the EVO worth the extra?
In the cold light of day probably not but if you can afford it why not?

I personally don't think a 1290 is worth £10k more than a SV650 but I'm still going to buy one anyway!

Freakuk

3,143 posts

151 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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MOBB said:
Edited just after you posted :-)

Is the EVO worth the extra?
For me with a standard Gen3 I wouldn't upgrade, but if I was buying new for the first time it would probably be the one I'd go for.

TimmyWimmyWoo

4,306 posts

181 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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They're really very good. I've done videos on the regular one and the Evo – really couldn't fault the standard bike's suspension so the Evo just felt a bit expensive by comparison. There are some really good deals on them over winter, I'm half tempted to chop my 1290 SAS in for one. There are spyshots of the next SDR and it looks horrific…

paddy1970

698 posts

109 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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There is a cheap one on auto trader (not evo) and it has my favourite exhaust .. austin racing ... sounds epic...

http://www.autotrader.co.uk/bike-details/202211101...


lukeyman

1,009 posts

135 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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Ex-demo, 200 miles old £14,300 with tech pack...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115600272359

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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lukeyman said:
Ex-demo, 200 miles old £14,300 with tech pack...

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/115600272359
That one is sold. I phoned about it on saturday.

They had another keenly priced one a couple of weeks ago which also sold. That being said if you were cynical you may say its a good way to get the phone to ring then do some upselling.

five50

520 posts

186 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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TimmyWimmyWoo said:
They're really very good. I've done videos on the regular one and the Evo – really couldn't fault the standard bike's suspension so the Evo just felt a bit expensive by comparison. There are some really good deals on them over winter, I'm half tempted to chop my 1290 SAS in for one. There are spyshots of the next SDR and it looks horrific…
I like your reviews - so you’d trade the practicality of the Superadventure for the slightly more unhinged nature of the SDR?

five50

520 posts

186 months

Monday 21st November 2022
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carinaman

21,291 posts

172 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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Interesting stuff about the Touno 660 insurance prices.

TimmyWimmyWoo

4,306 posts

181 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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five50 said:
I like your reviews - so you’d trade the practicality of the Superadventure for the slightly more unhinged nature of the SDR?
I would trade it… But I'd caveat that by saying the Super Adventure is such a complete bike and I love it. But y'know, it's the time of year where I convince myself I definitely need to change my bike, usually for something less practical. Weirdly I've just had a message from a journo friend who's handing back his (free) Super Adventure that he's run this year and he's trying to talk me into keeping mine.

Part of me thinks I've only done 3000 miles this year, so I don't need such a practical bike. And I like the idea of getting some luggage on the SDR, fitting heated grips and doing a mix of trackdays and short tours. Thanks for watching the videos by the way, wouldn't wish that on anyone.

trickywoo

11,784 posts

230 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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carinaman said:
Interesting stuff about the Touno 660 insurance prices.
They aren’t that cheap to insure. I’ve got used to paying around £100 fully comp for each of my bike and car policies.

The SDR is on the £300 / £400 range for me.

MOBB

Original Poster:

3,609 posts

127 months

Tuesday 22nd November 2022
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I’m 50 and only have 1 year ncd as I had a break from biking

660 Tuono quote was 380

SDR was 350