UK demands access to Apple users' encrypted data

[giveitfish]

Just for clarity, this desire for backdoors predates Kier by about a decade.

[Puzzles]

the uk is small fry, i cant see why the US tech cos would bow to the uk?

[Evanivitch]

Lucas Ayde said:

Rubbish - Kier and his autocracy needs to be able to keep citizens safe and secure from wrongthink. You are now on some list.

The UK really is showing up as one of the most draconian states in the West. I guess now that the Americans have woken up a bit and started to become a little bit more freedom-oriented and nationalistic, the crowd of corrupt politicians in Europe (including the UK) have decided to double down on their globalist agenda.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30794953

"As the UK's Prime Minister David Cameron put it in a speech this week - there should be no "means of communication" which "we cannot read"."
- January 2015

[Tindersticks]

Lucas Ayde said:

Rubbish - Kier and his autocracy needs to be able to keep citizens safe and secure from wrongthink. You are now on some list.

The UK really is showing up as one of the most draconian states in the West. I guess now that the Americans have woken up a bit and started to become a little bit more freedom-oriented and nationalistic, the crowd of corrupt politicians in Europe (including the UK) have decided to double down on their globalist agenda.

That’s a full-house of mad bullst right there.

[Lucas Ayde]

Tindersticks said:

That’s a full-house of mad bullst right there.

.. And you are unquestioning credulity incarnate. The government thanks you for for your gullibility.

[Lucas Ayde]

Evanivitch said:

Lucas Ayde said:

Rubbish - Kier and his autocracy needs to be able to keep citizens safe and secure from wrongthink. You are now on some list.

The UK really is showing up as one of the most draconian states in the West. I guess now that the Americans have woken up a bit and started to become a little bit more freedom-oriented and nationalistic, the crowd of corrupt politicians in Europe (including the UK) have decided to double down on their globalist agenda.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-30794953

"As the UK's Prime Minister David Cameron put it in a speech this week - there should be no "means of communication" which "we cannot read"."
- January 2015

Yes, Starmer is just the latest in a pretty much unbroken line of puppet politicians from both of the two parties. However, he's easily the most loyal to his masters in a long time (he did a bang-up job of completely purging Corbyn and his supporters from Labour) and being a Labour PM, gets an easier ride than the Tories would for the really unpopular stuff.

Sunak also played his part of paving the way for Corbyn to get elected with a huge majority. Even people who normally don't stop to question anything were remarking that he seemed to be trying to throw the last election.

[dxg]

bmwmike said:

Dave Hedgehog said:

they dont care as long as they get to monitor everyone as well

It'll never happen. It's so ridiculously blinkered that it's pointless, even if apple agreed to it, which they won't.

Well, digital ID is coming.

First with driver's licences and then, presumably, for access to online pawn. Or maybe the other way round. The Online Safety Act pretty much requires it for pretty much everything offered by a business. So, it's just a case of figuring out how the system will work.

The media coverage on this has been extremely muted and fragmented in recent months. I guess they're going for the softy softy catchy monkey approach this time...

[Tindersticks]

Lucas Ayde said:

.. And you are unquestioning credulity incarnate. The government thanks you for for your gullibility.

The reason why your Keir Starmer bullst is just that, is that this has been banged on about since 2015.

Literally pointed out above.

The internet thanks you for your inability to read.

[tangerine_sedge]

Tindersticks said:

The reason why your Keir Starmer bullst is just that, is that this has been banged on about since 2015.

Literally pointed out above.

The internet thanks you for your inability to read think.

There, fixed it for you. It's always the free thinkers that struggle with facts...

[Evanivitch]

Lucas Ayde said:

Yes, Starmer is just the latest in a pretty much unbroken line of puppet politicians from both of the two parties. However, he's easily the most loyal to his masters in a long time (he did a bang-up job of completely purging Corbyn and his supporters from Labour) and being a Labour PM, gets an easier ride than the Tories would for the really unpopular stuff.

Sunak also played his part of paving the way for Corbyn to get elected with a huge majority. Even people who normally don't stop to question anything were remarking that he seemed to be trying to throw the last election.

This is incoherent rambling with no basis in reality.

[Evanivitch]

Lucas Ayde said:

Rubbish - Kier and his autocracy needs to be able to keep citizens safe and secure from wrongthink. You are now on some list.

The UK really is showing up as one of the most draconian states in the West. I guess now that the Americans have woken up a bit and started to become a little bit more freedom-oriented and nationalistic, the crowd of corrupt politicians in Europe (including the UK) have decided to double down on their globalist agenda.

You mean like the US that banned TikTok?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/19...

Or a third of US states that were blocked by Pornhub because they legally required age verification

https://mashable.com/article/pornhub-blocked-state...

[camel_landy]

Evanivitch said:

This is incoherent rambling with no basis in reality.

Oh the irony...

M

[Evanivitch]

camel_landy said:

Evanivitch said:

This is incoherent rambling with no basis in reality.

Oh the irony...

M

And you are?

[Lucas Ayde]

Evanivitch said:

This is incoherent rambling with no basis in reality.

Excellent answer - I'd like to discuss some of the points you made but you don't appear to have made any,

[Lucas Ayde]

Tindersticks said:

The reason why your Keir Starmer bullst is just that, is that this has been banged on about since 2015.

Literally pointed out above.

The internet thanks you for your inability to read.

No need to get so triggered about someone pointing out what a massive authoritarian wker Sir Keir is ... I'm under no illusions about the ongoing erosion of privacy by UK administration after administration since 2001. I'm just pointing out that the establishment now have their most faithful enforcer to date, and in power with a massive majority (even though he's wildly unpopular with the public) courtesy of another establishment puppet - Sunak. Those of us capable of remembering things older than last week can recall how he was just parachuted in as a placeholder PM until Starmer could get in.

[Lucas Ayde]

Evanivitch said:

Lucas Ayde said:

Rubbish - Kier and his autocracy needs to be able to keep citizens safe and secure from wrongthink. You are now on some list.

The UK really is showing up as one of the most draconian states in the West. I guess now that the Americans have woken up a bit and started to become a little bit more freedom-oriented and nationalistic, the crowd of corrupt politicians in Europe (including the UK) have decided to double down on their globalist agenda.

You mean like the US that banned TikTok?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/19...

Or a third of US states that were blocked by Pornhub because they legally required age verification

https://mashable.com/article/pornhub-blocked-state...

"But whatabout this other thing?"

Whataboutery doesn't make it OK for our Government to be trying to destroy our privacy. Or I should say, erode it even further than it already has been eroded.

But hey, 'What about this other thing?'. LOL

[Tindersticks]

You're whining about something that'll never happen. Apple will give zero fks about this.

[Evanivitch]

Lucas Ayde said:

Evanivitch said:

Lucas Ayde said:

Rubbish - Kier and his autocracy needs to be able to keep citizens safe and secure from wrongthink. You are now on some list.

The UK really is showing up as one of the most draconian states in the West. I guess now that the Americans have woken up a bit and started to become a little bit more freedom-oriented and nationalistic, the crowd of corrupt politicians in Europe (including the UK) have decided to double down on their globalist agenda.

You mean like the US that banned TikTok?

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/jan/19...

Or a third of US states that were blocked by Pornhub because they legally required age verification

https://mashable.com/article/pornhub-blocked-state...

"But whatabout this other thing?"

Whataboutery doesn't make it OK for our Government to be trying to destroy our privacy. Or I should say, erode it even further than it already has been eroded.

But hey, 'What about this other thing?'. LOL

You brought the US into the conversation...

[cobra kid]

"back doors"

That is all.

[Tindersticks]

Lucas Ayde said:

Those of us capable of remembering things older than last week can recall how he was just parachuted in as a placeholder PM until Starmer could get in.