Bloody copy controlled Cd's

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Mike B

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47 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Just tried to rip some new music for the ipod and found all the copy controlled ones will not play .......anyone any ideas ?

whoozit

3,583 posts

268 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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I've been told that you can connect a normal CD player into the analogue socket of your sound card, you should then be able to encode it. Results might not be as good as normal direct ripping, I've never tried it however.

m-five

11,227 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Boot into OS-9 (not Classic) if you can and use SoundJam.

I guess you are using a post-2001 Mac?

I've not found a CD I couldn't copy in one way or another (either via SoundJam and OS-9 or via manual ripping from an analogue source - slow but effective).

If the UK version is copy protected and this is not clear when you bought it then take it back and demand a refund.

If you order from US/Asia internet retailers then you are more likely to receive a non-copy protected CD.

carrie78

68 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Apparently if you draw a circle round the outside of the underside of the CD with Black Marker pen it will work properly.

*************DISCLAIMER - I HAVEN'T TRIED THIS*************

Carrie

>> Edited by carrie78 on Wednesday 11th June 11:23

griffless

405 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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carrie78 said: Apparently if you draw a circle round the outside of the underside of the CD with Black Marker pen it will work properly.



True, in some cases, but I believe that it also depends on the copy protection method used - & I think that they may have stopped this one, since it was so easily circumvented. Anyone know any more about this?

Mike B

Original Poster:

47 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Thanks for the replies so far guys, CD's were internet US/Asia based still came back copy controlled (the first ones to have done so) Using ipod with PC and musicmatch.....

carrie78

68 posts

261 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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Re: marker pen thing

My mum listens to CD's on her laptop and tried this with one particular CD which wouldn't play due to protection. It now plays. She drew a line with permanant (black) marker from the edge of the CD about 5mm wide.

Be careful
Carrie

m-five

11,227 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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It looks like you are going to have to rip it manually via an external CD player and your sound card.

The only other option is to download the tracks from somewhere - can't be illegal as you already own the CD and are simply making a back-up. Although this may take longer than ripping manually - unless you have broadband.

griffless

405 posts

250 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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m-five said: can't be illegal as you already own the CD and are simply making a back-up

Actually, due to the really weird copyright laws on this, you may only copy your CD if you use specially licensed equipment to do so - i.e. MP3 players etc. which are designed for this purpose. CD writers, however do not qualify under this descrption, because manufacturers don't license them for this purpose.

So, the situation stands that if you wanted copies of a CD - one for your car, one for your hi-fi & a tape for a radio cassette player in your kitchen, you're meant to buy 3 copies of the same product. However, you're free copy any /all of these for use on your MP3 player.

In practice, however, no-one's ever been done for copying a CD for backup / personal use in another location, & I find it highly unlikely that they would be -- it would cause an even bigger backlash against the music industry than the copy-protection issue already has.

For anyone with access to a PC & CD-R, "Clone CD" has a freely downloadable demo (Tucows etc) that does an exact bit-copy of your original CD. The demo is limited to 2-speed writing, IIRC, but otherwise functions as the full version. I don't know if they have a Mac version, I'm afraid, but if not, I'm sure that there must be something similar.

m-five

11,227 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2003
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I've got no problem physically duplicating CDs (except for some of the extra long 90+ minute CDs) as I use a device copy function from one CD to another.

The copy protection issue only occurs when you try to rip the CD to MP3, AAC, etc.

I wonder if duplicating the CD and ripping from the copy would work?

sagalout

17,661 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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I've tried hookie copies of CDs on my Sony car system and they don't play, just hop skip & jump. Play everywhere else. Whats this black line thing? On the playing surface or the label side?

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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Can you copy it to the hard drive first.. THEN onto a Cd...?

carrie78

68 posts

261 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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Underside of cd - not label side. Around the outside edge.

***PLEASE DON'T TRY THIS ON YOUR FAVOURITE CD****

Carrie

sagalout

17,661 posts

281 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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But it's me favorite CD i want to play. Thanks Carrie, wil give it a go with one of my girlfriends CDs first!
Thats a 5mm black line right around the circumference, shiny side, then will keep all informed.

top fuel

2,590 posts

252 months

Thursday 12th June 2003
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sagalout said: I've tried hookie copies of CDs on my Sony car system and they don't play, just hop skip & jump. Play everywhere else. Whats this black line thing? On the playing surface or the label side?


Happens the same on my mates. How old is the Sony Cd player, cos he reckons that's why CDRs don't play.

sagalout

17,661 posts

281 months

Friday 13th June 2003
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Sorry came with the car (1995 car)
Have'nt tried the marker yet. Damn annoying, though.

carrie78

68 posts

261 months

Friday 13th June 2003
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Let us know if the marker thing does work when you try it.

Thanks
Carrie

tycho

11,554 posts

272 months

Friday 13th June 2003
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I have a Memorex DVD drive and a Memorex CD writer and the dvd drive doesn't recognise the copy protected cd's but the cd writer will play them and allow them to be ripped.
Apparently it is to do with the error correction on domestic cd players which allow them to skip over errors but computer based ones would need to access data as well and therefore need a perfect copy or they cannot guarantee the data not being corrupt. Most copy protection systems introduce errors and slight corruption into the disk which, if it is a music disk then the listener cannot notice.

Try putting in a cd writer and see if the error correction works.

tycho

11,554 posts

272 months

Friday 13th June 2003
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sagalout said: But it's me favorite CD i want to play. Thanks Carrie, wil give it a go with one of my girlfriends CDs first!
Thats a 5mm black line right around the circumference, shiny side, then will keep all informed.


What is the CD you want to play?

Wasted Bullet

426 posts

251 months

Friday 13th June 2003
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goto www.filedonkey.com and download it