Mac Networking
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Networking 
I for my sins have to work with a lot of graphic designers (Mac Duffers)
in a mixed PC/Mac Environment and It falls to me to run the network.
If the Macs are pre OS X then It's a bit problematic but you can share stuff with a Mac if you have File Services For Macinbtosh installed. I think this is a feature of Windows Server Sytems tho. However this only allows Macs to access PC based drives and not the other way round.
Mac OS X however is built on the linux kernel ( I think) and as such has support for ping and tracert and all those handy utilities that allow you to check basic stuff like can I see a Mac.
BTW I Fzukin HATE Mac's
Edited Cos I Can't Spell
>> Edited by tomash on Wednesday 25th June 17:09
in a mixed PC/Mac Environment and It falls to me to run the network. If the Macs are pre OS X then It's a bit problematic but you can share stuff with a Mac if you have File Services For Macinbtosh installed. I think this is a feature of Windows Server Sytems tho. However this only allows Macs to access PC based drives and not the other way round.
Mac OS X however is built on the linux kernel ( I think) and as such has support for ping and tracert and all those handy utilities that allow you to check basic stuff like can I see a Mac.
BTW I Fzukin HATE Mac's
Edited Cos I Can't Spell
>> Edited by tomash on Wednesday 25th June 17:09
IIRC, OS X is built on a Unix / FreeBSD kernel.
I recommend a Linux server for Mac, mixed and/or PC environments. Simply set up a Netatalk protocol and a Samba server; set permissions - sorted. Worked for me being an average user, and not administrator
Documentations supplied with Linux distributions are usually quite well written up, and Linux is the daddy of compatibilty with different systems 
I recommend a Linux server for Mac, mixed and/or PC environments. Simply set up a Netatalk protocol and a Samba server; set permissions - sorted. Worked for me being an average user, and not administrator
Documentations supplied with Linux distributions are usually quite well written up, and Linux is the daddy of compatibilty with different systems When setting up the network in our studio, we had to buy the OS X Jaguar version since the original just won't network.
It really peeved me that it wasn't available as a free download - I mean how can they sell you an operating system that doesn't work and then charge you for the upgrade?!! (well I suppose Microsoft does it all the time
)
Another cheapo method of getting PC's and Macs to talk is to use MacLan.
It really peeved me that it wasn't available as a free download - I mean how can they sell you an operating system that doesn't work and then charge you for the upgrade?!! (well I suppose Microsoft does it all the time
) Another cheapo method of getting PC's and Macs to talk is to use MacLan.
How exactly do you want to network them and what do you want to do?
If you just need them to be on the same network, access the same email servers etc, there should be no problem (OS9 has tcp support). File sharing is a little more interesting, but this is supposed to be very good
www.thursby.com/products/dave.html
I'm no mac expert (well I've got three) but I'll help in any way I can.
Sparks
If you just need them to be on the same network, access the same email servers etc, there should be no problem (OS9 has tcp support). File sharing is a little more interesting, but this is supposed to be very good
www.thursby.com/products/dave.html
I'm no mac expert (well I've got three
) but I'll help in any way I can. Sparks
Sparks said:
File sharing is a little more interesting, but this is supposed to be very good
www.thursby.com/products/dave.html
I tried Dave (ages ago) found it to be pretty useless for our requirements TBH, but some people rate it.
Hire a large skip, toss all the macs in it and replace with pcs, job done 
Not that I'm ever getting pissed off with the lab mac whose existence I'm forced to tolerate and is about 1 step from a terminal crash at all times
Having said that, has he considered junking OSX and putting Linux on them - they work a treat, and networking is much easier?
Not that I'm ever getting pissed off with the lab mac whose existence I'm forced to tolerate and is about 1 step from a terminal crash at all times
Having said that, has he considered junking OSX and putting Linux on them - they work a treat, and networking is much easier?
As Sparks says we need more information, what exactly are you trying to do, mac to mac, mac to PC?
To quote Apple:
''Mac OS X begins with Darwin, an Open Source, UNIX-based foundation. Darwin is a complete BSD UNIX implementation, derived from the original 4.4BSD-Lite2 Open Source distribution. Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3, combining BSD’s POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and real-time performance of Mach. Darwin also provides a complete shell environment featuring popular UNIX scrpting languages such as tcsh, bash and perl; utilities including ls, grep and top; editors like sed, vi and emacs; as well as services such as ftp, apache and ssh.'
as for networking:
'Networking services on Mac and Windows systems are based on the same standard technologies
(the TCP/IP protocols used by the Internet). As a result, the Mac is at home on Windows
networks and just about every other kind of network, enabling it to use the same file servers,
printers, and other network services. You can also access and share wireless networks with PCs.
Apple’s AirPort wireless networking products are compatible with Wi-Fi certified 802.11b
products, making it easy to share a wireless network with Windows PCs. And with Mac OS X
v10.2, you don’t have to be a network administrator to make it all work.'
I'm no network administrator but I have had no problems connecting macs running any OS from 8 up to Jaguar. Haven't tried with PCs but don't believe its rocket since. I think 'Dave' and 'Timbuktu' are useful for older OS9. I think you need MacOpener installed on a PC to be able to see mac volumes.
Maybe the Apple car Knowledge base can help:
http://kbase.info.apple.com/index.jsp
As a mac duffer that's exactly how I feel about PCs.
If computers were cars, PCs and Windoze shows all the style and attention to design (switched on or off) as a Trabant.
tomash said:
Mac OS X however is built on the linux kernel ( I think).
To quote Apple:
''Mac OS X begins with Darwin, an Open Source, UNIX-based foundation. Darwin is a complete BSD UNIX implementation, derived from the original 4.4BSD-Lite2 Open Source distribution. Darwin uses a monolithic kernel based on FreeBSD 4.4 and the OSF/mk Mach 3, combining BSD’s POSIX support with the fine-grained multithreading and real-time performance of Mach. Darwin also provides a complete shell environment featuring popular UNIX scrpting languages such as tcsh, bash and perl; utilities including ls, grep and top; editors like sed, vi and emacs; as well as services such as ftp, apache and ssh.'
as for networking:
'Networking services on Mac and Windows systems are based on the same standard technologies
(the TCP/IP protocols used by the Internet). As a result, the Mac is at home on Windows
networks and just about every other kind of network, enabling it to use the same file servers,
printers, and other network services. You can also access and share wireless networks with PCs.
Apple’s AirPort wireless networking products are compatible with Wi-Fi certified 802.11b
products, making it easy to share a wireless network with Windows PCs. And with Mac OS X
v10.2, you don’t have to be a network administrator to make it all work.'
I'm no network administrator but I have had no problems connecting macs running any OS from 8 up to Jaguar. Haven't tried with PCs but don't believe its rocket since. I think 'Dave' and 'Timbuktu' are useful for older OS9. I think you need MacOpener installed on a PC to be able to see mac volumes.
Maybe the Apple car Knowledge base can help:
http://kbase.info.apple.com/index.jsp
tomash said:
BTW I Fzukin HATE Mac's
As a mac duffer that's exactly how I feel about PCs.
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