Anyone else disappointed with their C63 (W205)?

Anyone else disappointed with their C63 (W205)?

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playalistic

2,269 posts

164 months

Thursday 8th March 2018
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The only thing bugging me is these stupid satin black wheels with the polished lip. They look great during the brief moments until they're all scuffed and chipped. The lip is so proud of the tyre you only need look at one sideways and they scratch. frown

kyledunn15

3 posts

107 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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I have owned my W205 C63s coupe for 14 months and completed 14k miles. Annoying things I find have mostly been mentioned already.

The only new issues to add to peoples previously mentioned are

- Sunroof squeaked. Back to Merc and was greased up and fine now.
- Rear hubs have begun to rust quite badly. Have taken back to merc dealer and they said that's just how it is. Front are fine. Would like to know if anyone else has this issue? Don't really want to get the hammerite out just yet.
- In comfort and sport the car seems to start in 2nd gear all the time. Have had a gearbox update and still does this. In sport+ and race it starts in 1st gear. Wouldn't mind except if your try to come out of a junction fast it seems to not have power then all of a sudden the back end is away by starting in 2nd.
- When driving from a cold start it seems to sit with higher rev's for a longer period of time then it did when I got it (could just be in my head). Do people sit for a few minutes in the morning to let the engine warm up before driving off?
- Passenger seatbelt rattles/knocks against the door pillar when no1 is sitting in the passenger seat.

Getting this car was at the time getting my dream car and I use it as my daily, however the little niggles mentioned above along with the typical dash rattles have left me looking forward to it being at a value = the my outstanding PCP balance so I can get rid of it for something else (which is a shame).

Also hate that the select shifter is on the steering column. Much prefer in the middle like the A45 or AMG GT.

2ono

552 posts

107 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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kyledunn15 said:
I have owned my W205 C63s coupe for 14 months and completed 14k miles. Annoying things I find have mostly been mentioned already.

The only new issues to add to peoples previously mentioned are

- Sunroof squeaked. Back to Merc and was greased up and fine now.
- Rear hubs have begun to rust quite badly. Have taken back to merc dealer and they said that's just how it is. Front are fine. Would like to know if anyone else has this issue? Don't really want to get the hammerite out just yet.
- In comfort and sport the car seems to start in 2nd gear all the time. Have had a gearbox update and still does this. In sport+ and race it starts in 1st gear. Wouldn't mind except if your try to come out of a junction fast it seems to not have power then all of a sudden the back end is away by starting in 2nd.
- When driving from a cold start it seems to sit with higher rev's for a longer period of time then it did when I got it (could just be in my head). Do people sit for a few minutes in the morning to let the engine warm up before driving off?
- Passenger seatbelt rattles/knocks against the door pillar when no1 is sitting in the passenger seat.

Getting this car was at the time getting my dream car and I use it as my daily, however the little niggles mentioned above along with the typical dash rattles have left me looking forward to it being at a value = the my outstanding PCP balance so I can get rid of it for something else (which is a shame).

Also hate that the select shifter is on the steering column. Much prefer in the middle like the A45 or AMG GT.
I too have a C63s, rear hubs are going rusty on mine as well, Mercedes said “they all do that sir”

I believe there is a magnet on the side of the passenger seat to stop the seatbelt rattling when not in use.

I must have a good one though as I have no rattles or squeaks, sun roof works perfectly.

The only problem I think it has is a faulty fuel gauge - as it seems to drop very quicklysmile

jon-yprpe

383 posts

88 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2019
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I’ve had my C63 coupe since June. 6000 miles in now and here’s the report:

Annoying creaking rattle somewhere on passenger side....can’t track it.

Tyre crabbing started about a month ago.

Revs seem to ‘hang’ occasionally in sport mode - ie it will change down and then hang the revs at 4000rpm for a few seconds.....

Got the 19/20” black alloys - scuffed the front left last week after 7 months!!

Grill star fell off and cost £85 to replace.

Paint flaked off one of the exhaust tips, but replaced under warranty.

Apart from that I really enjoy it. Suprisingly easy to use in the winter. You can’t but help love that V8 rumble. Beats my old F80 M3 hands down.




playalistic

2,269 posts

164 months

Thursday 24th January 2019
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kyledunn15 said:
I have owned my W205 C63s coupe for 14 months and completed 14k miles. Annoying things I find have mostly been mentioned already.

The only new issues to add to peoples previously mentioned are

- Sunroof squeaked. Back to Merc and was greased up and fine now.

Yep same, was fixed during service.

- Rear hubs have begun to rust quite badly. Have taken back to merc dealer and they said that's just how it is. Front are fine. Would like to know if anyone else has this issue? Don't really want to get the hammerite out just yet.

Yep same again. Rears only.

- In comfort and sport the car seems to start in 2nd gear all the time. Have had a gearbox update and still does this. In sport+ and race it starts in 1st gear. Wouldn't mind except if your try to come out of a junction fast it seems to not have power then all of a sudden the back end is away by starting in 2nd.

I've noticed this but not causing me any issue.

- When driving from a cold start it seems to sit with higher rev's for a longer period of time then it did when I got it (could just be in my head). Do people sit for a few minutes in the morning to let the engine warm up before driving off?

I think after a cold start the revs are held higher to get the cats warmed up. I don't wait around before I set off otherwise my neighbours would want to kill me smile

- Passenger seatbelt rattles/knocks against the door pillar when no1 is sitting in the passenger seat.

Haven't got this rattle but have one or two other minor ones that have recently developed.

Getting this car was at the time getting my dream car and I use it as my daily, however the little niggles mentioned above along with the typical dash rattles have left me looking forward to it being at a value = the my outstanding PCP balance so I can get rid of it for something else (which is a shame).

Also hate that the select shifter is on the steering column. Much prefer in the middle like the A45 or AMG GT.

Mitch16

59 posts

106 months

Monday 28th January 2019
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Hi all,

I have just bought a 66 plate c63 and have done about 500 miles.
My car is on the 19” wheels which were black but I have had them changed to silver. They look great IMO.
I have had m3 / s4 before but I am having to recalibrate my right foot in the cold and wet.
The noise though, that sold it for me and to enjoy while v8s are still being made. I smile like a child even pottering around.
No squeaks or rattles (yet and hopefully won’t be). I got a 2 year warranty, apparently all AMG have this so good piece of mind.
I have started another thread to get some tyre advice, please have a look and let me know your expertises.
Sorry if a few of you are disappointed with your cars. Maybe I am in honeymoon phase but it really is fabumous so far.

kyled63

3 posts

107 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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Mich Pilot Sport 4s are amazing.i changed to those and the difference in grip over the continental’s it came new with was vast.
I had done some research and they were the most popular tyre choice for the C63s.

Brian the snail

32 posts

96 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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I have owned my C63 205 for 18 months. Before this car I had a 1 series M-Lite, which I moaned all the time that it was a diddy small car.
But the M-Lite got the power down and that Bimmer auto box was fantastic. Make the 205 gearbox seem like a dinosaur !

But the soundtrack makes up for most things some of the time, specially if you have the Exhaust Loud button on the dash.

THe lack of traction from the rear does my head in, I find myself tiptoeing on the throttle try not to spin up the rears, when pulling away and when going round corner. I have been used to the good traction of the bimmer and a really heavy right foot.


Its taken me about 8 months to get used to it ( I only use it on occasional weekends) On a typical UK day I just cant get anywhere quick, its allways arse end out and wheels spinning, yes its fun for a while but sometimes I want to get somewhere quick and not have it sliding all over the place.


I did try to purchase PS4s rear tyres, but there was a shortage for the 19inch ones late last year, so had to put on Continentals (to pas the MOT), which maybe are the problem.


But in the hot dry sunny days, its a fantastic drivers car. SO much grip and response, far better than the M-Lite but that's only 2 days in a year. Needs AWD with adjustable diff, that would solve my problem.

On the plus side, im booked into the Supercar parking at Goodwood FOS this year wink

tgclowes

198 posts

116 months

Wednesday 30th January 2019
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I picked my C63s coupe up 3 weeks ago, after previously owning a regular 6.3 coupe and a 507 edition coupe.

Fabulous car all around and I would say better in every aspect than the previous one. I could argue all day about the engine but I simply treat it as a different offering than the old 6.3 unit, I'm certainly enjoying the extra economy on a cruise!

I get slight crabbing when the tyres are cold and I go close to full lock. I've had no creaks or squeaks yet, but I do notice the passenger side seat belt knocking every now and again, not the first car to do it and certainly not the last.

Pulling off in 2nd is completely normal as it occurred in the old car as well, trust me in most instances it's preferable. Plus the car has more than enough grunt to get out of any junction even a bit quickly.

RudeDog

Original Poster:

1,652 posts

174 months

Monday 11th February 2019
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jon-yprpe said:
Grill star fell off and cost £85 to replace.
This happened to me when I had mine. Araldite made sure it didn't happen to the replacement.

kyled63

3 posts

107 months

Wednesday 13th February 2019
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tgclowes said:
I picked my C63s coupe up 3 weeks ago, after previously owning a regular 6.3 coupe and a 507 edition coupe.

Fabulous car all around and I would say better in every aspect than the previous one. I could argue all day about the engine but I simply treat it as a different offering than the old 6.3 unit, I'm certainly enjoying the extra economy on a cruise!

I get slight crabbing when the tyres are cold and I go close to full lock. I've had no creaks or squeaks yet, but I do notice the passenger side seat belt knocking every now and again, not the first car to do it and certainly not the last.

Pulling off in 2nd is completely normal as it occurred in the old car as well, trust me in most instances it's preferable. Plus the car has more than enough grunt to get out of any junction even a bit quickly.
There is a magnet in the side of the passenger seat (even in the performance seats) that you can press the seat belt to and it doesn’t rattle. Was extremely impressed when I discovered this.

Heathlegend

6 posts

58 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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you are also missing the important point!... the W205 has no theatre about it compared to the old one. I have a C63 507... the sound!! I have been dying to find a suitable upgrade from Mercedes, having been given a C63s for a weekend on more than one occasion to mull thing over. Not a patch - I would go as far as to say my 507 actually feels quicker than a C63s, certainly it is more responsive when I out my foot down, the sound is 100% better - louder, revs higher. This also makes M mode completely intoxicating- at any speed! C63s is just a car. A great car but they have killed the character that the W204 has.

playalistic

2,269 posts

164 months

Saturday 14th September 2019
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Wind your neck in - you make it sound like it’s a 2l diesel or something equally mundane. It’s a great car and bests the W204 in every measurable way save for the NA engine. Even still - the 4l biturbo will go down as one of the true greats.

CarHabit

94 posts

93 months

Sunday 15th September 2019
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Heathlegend said:
you are also missing the important point!... the W205 has no theatre about it compared to the old one. I have a C63 507... the sound!! I have been dying to find a suitable upgrade from Mercedes, having been given a C63s for a weekend on more than one occasion to mull thing over. Not a patch - I would go as far as to say my 507 actually feels quicker than a C63s, certainly it is more responsive when I out my foot down, the sound is 100% better - louder, revs higher. This also makes M mode completely intoxicating- at any speed! C63s is just a car. A great car but they have killed the character that the W204 has.
Similar position to me. Have 507 (estate) and although I usually swap cars frequently, I can’t find something that I’d replace it. C63S is a good car but having spent time in one, it doesn’t feel worth what I’d sell my car for + extra. E63S is outstanding but it’s too big and I really never think “100 bhp more is just what I need right now”

I’m facing facts that there aren’t many large capacity NA V8s left, so it won’t be a straight replacement

Quite like the look of the new Alpina B3 as it’ll be a different take on a car. More luxury, more compliancy, compact body, plenty quick enough

The search continues...

off_again

12,285 posts

234 months

Friday 20th September 2019
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playalistic said:
Wind your neck in - you make it sound like it’s a 2l diesel or something equally mundane. It’s a great car and bests the W204 in every measurable way save for the NA engine. Even still - the 4l biturbo will go down as one of the true greats.
I am still amazed by that engine. Yeah, its a turbo and it will never sound as good or even be as responsive as a big naturally aspirated engine. But in the world where everything is going turbo, its definitely one of the greats! I am still shocked how smooth, punchy and responsive it is. Is it one of the greatest engines around? Nah, its pretty clear the old 6.2 is one engine that will stand the test of time.

However, its cleaner (blame various governments for that), has a LOT of tuning potential (its easy to get to 600BHP with a few modifications) and, deep breath, way more economical! I am regularly getting 26MPG on a 50 mile journey to the local airport (I am in the US, so in UK numbers, thats a good 30MPG or so) and saw 32MPG (38MPG) on a longer 100 mile journey a few weeks ago! Totally shocked given what it is. Its significantly more economical than my previous Cayenne 4.8S that I had, across all driving conditions.

The 6.2 will always be the loud shouty engine and will take its place in the hall of fame. But the 4.0 biturbo is still a great engine.

julian-bcm9m

1 posts

50 months

Monday 3rd February 2020
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Right men ,
I have had all comparisons of the v8 from same era
M3 - RS5
The merc is the best by far -
Also had many other cars. Including the Nissan GT-R r 35 -
I love cars. And change mine up yearly -
I’m not rich , just in lots of debt! But I love cars .
The w204
Over all has more comfort compared to its rivals - and other cars I have had .
When people say this car is a monster ? I disagree but then I have had a GTR r35 - mapped to 600bhp completely different animal .
Anyway -
My likes and dislikes for this car as follows
Start with the likes ;
Very smooth drive
love the gear box
Love the seats
love the steering
The power
The noise
the overall drive is so nice and I say that comparing to its rivals .
Beats the Audi and Bmw all day long .

The w204 I have has done 62k
Only one driver apart from me .
I test drove it before I brought it and drove a friends one too. Loved it straight away .
No issues so it seemed
BUT ..........
After the first few times of driving it
The noises
The rattling
The hard drive all started to kill the love for this car -
I changed the tires front and back , got higher profile. Extra 10m on the back and 5m on the front - HUGE difference - doesn’t make it got for track driving as there slight rub but had back wheel arch altered so it’s fine.
Improved steering and handling and road bumps !
Also took out spare tire and jack , sound proofed all the metal that’s exposed in the boot made huge difference .
But it didn’t stop there -
There was a rattle - tapping in the dash it’s been driving me bonkers for weeks
I took the dials out. Took the screen out. And the radio and soundproofed them - it improved the sounds -
BUT still the deep rattle from within the dash didn’t stop and got worse and worse Finally I found it. !!!!
The dash underneath the top front speaker is loose . Some how where in connects to the car something is loose. I cannot see it. I cannot get to it !
I have tried to sort all little issues with this car myself as I do with all cars !

Atm I’m stuck in this problem


Robbidoo

240 posts

167 months

Wednesday 5th February 2020
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Seems like a pretty decent algorithm

sjvette

1 posts

40 months

Thursday 24th December 2020
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I know this is an older post, but just thought I'd keep it going a bit. I have had a 2020 C63 for 6 months now and 5500 miles. Came from a 2017 C43. The C43 was amazing. Not a single issue ever. The quality was top notch. The C63, however, has given me some headaches. First issue was the cooling fans. They never shut off and drained the battery multiple times. Dealership replaced is working now (after a week with a loaner).

Now, intermittently, the command screen goes blank with the radio still playing. Shutting off the car for an extended period seems to reset it. But, it leaves me with no way to change the channel or use the backup camera. I've had a headlight out error message, only for the headlight to self-fix itself later.

The jerky slow driving is annoying. Also, the passenger seat belt assembly keeps popping open on its own, making annoying rattles.

This is my first car in 25+ years of new cars to have issues. It's been to the dealership 3 times now and I've only had it 6 months. Driving their loaners for days on end is not ideal.

Sometimes, when reversing out of a parking spot, then put it in gear and accelerate, the RPM's shoot up to 2500+ before engaging. Like the converter is slipping then locks up. Very weird.

And lastly, when locking the doors from the passenger side by touching the handle sensor, nothing happens. I stand there touching for up to 5 attempts, then just give up and use the key fob. Same with opening the door. It takes a few tries to get it unlock. Then the next day, it all works as it should on the first attempt. My hands are always dry and clean.

Other than that, i love the power and driving experience. Thinking about a JB4 tune soon, but am worried that taking it to the dealership so often will void my warranty.

Porkupine

1,709 posts

165 months

Sunday 15th January 2023
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Reviving an old thread.
I recently picked up a facelift s205 C63.
My initial plan was to go for the 6.2; as noted in various posts above the engine is legendary and it was always on the list. However, having driven a couple the car is now feeling failry dated, in 2023. We also have a Tesla, which felt quicker than the W204. However, when getting that 6.2 high on revs, of course it all makes sense.
However, this car for me needs to be a daily, so just the technology and age of the 6.2 was the biggest factor in discounting it. I guess my long dreamed about plan to own one, is now not meant to be!
I also test drove various other models, including F82 M4. However, the 205 won. Despite what is written in some posts above, I found one which felt well put together and perhaps some issues have been updated on facelift, who knows? It is also obviously quicker than the previous generation, if that matters.

With higher performance cars I guess squeks, rattles, etc. to some degree will come with the territory - they will be cars with a stiff chassis and I suspect this may be something to do with it. Having been an owner of various Porsches before and regularly posting and reading this forum many years ago; we came to accept / embrace some of these traits. I have had the S205 only a little while now and although it is not as silent as an S Class; it is fine comfort wise and the cruise home from the dealer returned me over 31mpg. Very shocked and surprised by that. Admittedly I wasn't driving like I had stolen it.

I certainly have had some 'noises' but only when you turn off the radio to try to listen for them. (For example, at the moment I can ocassionaly hear some kind of creak / rattle at low speed off the gas from the rear; may just be something in the boot, who knows; only can be heard in silence and when listening)...However, IMO best to wind up the revs and drive it and enjoy it. So far, I think this could be one of the best cars I have owned. I feel the soundtrack is at least as good as the W204 I tested - although it has a different character; it has the pops and bangs if you encourage it. On the other hand, it can be a long distance companion and cover miles in comfort, which has been the really surprising aspect. Best of both worlds?




JAMSXR

1,454 posts

47 months

Tuesday 17th January 2023
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I drove the S204 and S205 before settling on the 205. For me the 204 was a better garage queen and the 205 the more accomplished all rounder. The bi-Turbo is an absolute gem of a motor, one of the best.

However, for months it suffered from some really awful creaking - it really put me off the car at the time. Thankfully I traced it down to the sunroof, applying some conditioner to the rubber seals made it totally disappear.

It’s been on a few track days and performs well, I find the comfort seats brilliant, and by all accounts the motor is very reliable.

No idea what I would replace it with on a like for like basis.



Edited by JAMSXR on Tuesday 17th January 08:38