C43 AMG...talk to me

C43 AMG...talk to me

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Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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interstellar said:
Its a coupe I believe
To be more precise its a Coupe Cabriolet, as posted on the first page of this thread.
With 4 different variants you would have thought the seller would have mentioned the critical point about what bodystyle their C43 is.
From my own point of view I would love a Coupe but would completely dismiss a Cabriolet....and I suspect the majority of UK buyers would be the same regarding a Cabriolet.

interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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Ron240 said:
interstellar said:
Its a coupe I believe
To be more precise its a Coupe Cabriolet, as posted on the first page of this thread.
With 4 different variants you would have thought the seller would have mentioned the critical point about what bodystyle their C43 is.
From my own point of view I would love a Coupe but would completely dismiss a Cabriolet....and I suspect the majority of UK buyers would be the same regarding a Cabriolet.
I think the poster was asking about the one coming up for sale 3 posts up not the car on page 1. It is a coupe as I enquired about it with moorieuk and its a hell of a spec. pm him if you are interested.

Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Wednesday 1st July 2020
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interstellar said:
I think the poster was asking about the one coming up for sale 3 posts up not the car on page 1. It is a coupe as I enquired about it with moorieuk and its a hell of a spec. pm him if you are interested.
Yes you are corect, my mistake.
I was confusing with the person who asked what body style it is(chazd).
My sentiment still applies though.....moorieuk has not posted anywhere else in this thread apart from saying he might be selling, but did not state which of the 4 body styles it is. biggrin


Edited by Ron240 on Wednesday 1st July 19:41

bobsavage789

657 posts

54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Yesterday I didn’t have put down a deposit on a 67 plate C43 saloon (with P+ and driving assistance), and the original 3 year warranty running out in September.

My BIL is a workshop manager for Mercedes commercial, and he’s urged me to get an extended warranty because of how expensive parts are. I’ve also read lots of PHers saying it’s a better idea just to put the money aside as a bork fund.

What do C43 owners think? How reliable are they? I noticed MB (and the w205 C class in particular) don’t perform well in reliability tables...

bobsavage789

657 posts

54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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bobsavage789 said:
Yesterday I didn’t have put down a deposit on a 67 plate C43 saloon (with P+ and driving assistance), and the original 3 year warranty running out in September.

My BIL is a workshop manager for Mercedes commercial, and he’s urged me to get an extended warranty because of how expensive parts are. I’ve also read lots of PHers saying it’s a better idea just to put the money aside as a bork fund.

What do C43 owners think? How reliable are they? I noticed MB (and the w205 C class in particular) don’t perform well in reliability tables...
Sorry, should have said: it’s currently got 11.5k on the clock and I won’t be doing more than 6k/year.

Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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bobsavage789 said:
Yesterday I didn’t have put down a deposit on a 67 plate C43 saloon (with P+ and driving assistance), and the original 3 year warranty running out in September.
My BIL is a workshop manager for Mercedes commercial, and he’s urged me to get an extended warranty because of how expensive parts are. I’ve also read lots of PHers saying it’s a better idea just to put the money aside as a bork fund.
Any extended warranty is a lottery.....in the sense that you are gambling that you might need it. It will certainly not be cheap for a car like this.
The car is almost 3 years old and has covered a very low annual mileage, also it should have had 2 main dealer services at this point - A then B with the next A being due soon.
The car should come with a certain amount of warranty, which in the case of Mercedes Approved Used will be 12 months. Now depending on where you are buying it if the car only comes with balance of original manufacturers warranty this would not be acceptable to me for a car of this price.
You know yourself its a case of weighing it up in your mind......but if it was me I would be looking for 12 months warranty included in the price then I would decide later on what I wanted to do.

bobsavage789

657 posts

54 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Ron240 said:
ny extended warranty is a lottery.....in the sense that you are gambling that you might need it. It will certainly not be cheap for a car like this.
The car is almost 3 years old and has covered a very low annual mileage, also it should have had 2 main dealer services at this point - A then B with the next A being due soon.
The car should come with a certain amount of warranty, which in the case of Mercedes Approved Used will be 12 months. Now depending on where you are buying it if the car only comes with balance of original manufacturers warranty this would not be acceptable to me for a car of this price.
You know yourself its a case of weighing it up in your mind......but if it was me I would be looking for 12 months warranty included in the price then I would decide later on what I wanted to do.
Interesting: thanks for your input, Ron.

I bought it from a reputable independent place, and they provide 6 months’ warranty. I suppose that gives me a chance to get more of a feel for how reliable it is and decide later on if I should extend the warranty (Warranty Direct seems to attract the fewest outraged reviews, and quote £900ish for 3 years with everything allegedly included).

I’ve a warranty on my current Golf GTI, but they haven’t been that helpful for the few (smaller) jobs that have needed doing. However, I sold my Gen 1 Jaguar XF S because it was out of warranty and kept throwing up DPF warning lights (the choice of a diesel car is another conversation entirely).

My current thoughts are to put the money to one side for the time being and go from there after 6 months...

It’d useful to know if there’s anything that is prone to failing on the C43 though, as this might swing it for me!

interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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On a 50k car at 3 years old I would go the Oem route.

I had a squeak over bumps last year in my 640i and thought nothing of it. Mentioned it when I had it serviced and they didn’t give it back for 3 weeks on safety grounds and ended up replacing the whole steering rack at god knows how much cost but way more than the warranty cost and that was one job. I would just go for that for piece of mind personally

bobsavage789

657 posts

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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interstellar said:
On a 50k car at 3 years old I would go the Oem route.

I had a squeak over bumps last year in my 640i and thought nothing of it. Mentioned it when I had it serviced and they didn’t give it back for 3 weeks on safety grounds and ended up replacing the whole steering rack at god knows how much cost but way more than the warranty cost and that was one job. I would just go for that for piece of mind personally
Useful advice: thanks.

I’ve decided I’ll probably go down the extended manufacturer’s warranty route: MB want £43/month for that, but I’m told there are few exclusions and no excess... it only takes one relatively major issue to make it worthwhile!

interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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bobsavage789 said:
interstellar said:
On a 50k car at 3 years old I would go the Oem route.

I had a squeak over bumps last year in my 640i and thought nothing of it. Mentioned it when I had it serviced and they didn’t give it back for 3 weeks on safety grounds and ended up replacing the whole steering rack at god knows how much cost but way more than the warranty cost and that was one job. I would just go for that for piece of mind personally
Useful advice: thanks.

I’ve decided I’ll probably go down the extended manufacturer’s warranty route: MB want £43/month for that, but I’m told there are few exclusions and no excess... it only takes one relatively major issue to make it worthwhile!
That’s cheap in my book. My 640i was £1100 with BMW

Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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interstellar said:
That’s cheap in my book. My 640i was £1100 with BMW
You are comparing a total price with a monthly amount, plus there has been no mention of duration or number of services included.
£43 per month say over 2 years and 2 services is £1032, so im assuming your £1100 also covers 2 services.
You are comparing prices from 2 different marques.....but from what i have learned about standard servicing Mercedes appears to be the most expensive of the more upmarket German 3.

bobsavage789

657 posts

54 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Ron240 said:
interstellar said:
That’s cheap in my book. My 640i was £1100 with BMW
You are comparing a total price with a monthly amount, plus there has been no mention of duration or number of services included.
£43 per month say over 2 years and 2 services is £1032, so im assuming your £1100 also covers 2 services.
You are comparing prices from 2 different marques.....but from what i have learned about standard servicing Mercedes appears to be the most expensive of the more upmarket German 3.
I need to check, but my understanding was that the £43/month is purely for the warranty; servicing would be extra...

Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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bobsavage789 said:
I need to check, but my understanding was that the £43/month is purely for the warranty; servicing would be extra...
Yes of course....ignore me...im getting confused again! rotatesmash
That's twice now on the same page.....it's really not like me!! frown
In my defence I am currently looking at Mercedes service plans for myself.
I'm still interested to know how long the £1100 BMW warranty lasted for though.




Edited by Ron240 on Wednesday 8th July 17:36

interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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It was for a year (extended warranty) after the car hit 3 years old and no it didn’t include services.

The Mercedes one is cheap irrespective of service costs. An extended warranty on a car like that for £500 is a no brainer

Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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interstellar said:
It was for a year (extended warranty) after the car hit 3 years old
That is a serious amount of money for one years warranty. eek
£1100 would be very hard to justify for most people, but you got "lucky" and it paid off. beer

interstellar

3,306 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Ron240 said:
interstellar said:
It was for a year (extended warranty) after the car hit 3 years old
That is a serious amount of money for one years warranty. eek
£1100 would be very hard to justify for most people, but you got "lucky" and it paid off. beer
It’s not if you are driving a 60k car when new. Bork factor is possible. I wouldn’t drive it without a warranty.

Any of these cars at this price need to have it. I think without it it really is a roll of the dice. I wouldn’t do it.

Edited by interstellar on Thursday 9th July 14:58

Ron240

2,766 posts

119 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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interstellar said:
It’s not if you are driving a 60k car when new. Bork factor is possible. I wouldn’t drive it without a warranty.
Any of these cars at this price need to have it. I think without it it really is a roll of the dice. I wouldn’t do it.
It may have been a £60k car when brand new and as such had a 3 year manufacturer warranty, but after this period it is worth less than half this amount.
I completely agree that warranty is advisable when buying a car like this....but the price of the warranty is an important factor.
My point is that the majority of people would consider an £1100 1 year warranty to be excessive.
It just so happens that you got your moneys worth from it, but you will be in the minority otherwise the warranty would not make financial sense for the seller.



razor11

126 posts

249 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Well, my 2017 C43 went in today due to an increase in rear axle noise and battery warning alert on start up: charging system fault.

When up on the ramp, seemed the rear tyres are through to the cord on inner edges; rear suspension issue.

Tyres are my expense, but good job I’ve got an extended warranty. The inspection charge would be £150+VAT.....plus a very cheeky £5.75 Covid surcharge.....

No idea what the final cost will be, but Merc have authorised it. Seems diff noise issues are not uncommon on these.

Still an expensive day, but could have been a lot worse.

bobsavage789

657 posts

54 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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razor11 said:
Well, my 2017 C43 went in today due to an increase in rear axle noise and battery warning alert on start up: charging system fault.

When up on the ramp, seemed the rear tyres are through to the cord on inner edges; rear suspension issue.

Tyres are my expense, but good job I’ve got an extended warranty. The inspection charge would be £150+VAT.....plus a very cheeky £5.75 Covid surcharge.....

No idea what the final cost will be, but Merc have authorised it. Seems diff noise issues are not uncommon on these.

Still an expensive day, but could have been a lot worse.
That’s interesting to know, and helps reinforce my current thinking that getting an MB warranty would be worthwhile.

How many miles has your C43 done? And how much do you pay for your warranty, if you don’t mind my asking..?

razor11

126 posts

249 months

Friday 10th July 2020
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...just under 30kmiles. Warranty was £850 for 2 years, purchased late ‘19. Note that, warranty wording does not appear to explicitly tie me to MB servicing, but I can imagine claiming might be more tricky if it was not.

Repairs being carried out today and they price matched the new tyres.