Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio - Anyone Ordering One
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MellowshipSlinky said:
Been seriously looking into changing the F-Type R for one of these again.
Seem to be holding their price a bit too.
Blue or black, with yellow calipers....
For go sake don't buy one you'll lose 10's of thousand more than buying an M3 (NOT!)Seem to be holding their price a bit too.
Blue or black, with yellow calipers....
If you look at earlier posts in this thread anyway
Love mine, 6 months in and it's amazing. Nothing has gone wrong, everything perfect. Comfortable with soft suspension settings, brutal when pushing it. Rare as f... on the road, depreciation? Who cares, just get it on a PCP and you'll have the biggest grin on your face for a long time. If you have the cash then maybe buy a 1 year old sub £10k off the new price, but look at the M3, C63 like for like price and they are the same price as the QF.
M3 / C63 owners reading this tell me how many people have complimented on your car since you've had it? I've had countless random conversations with strangers saying how stunning my car is.
You only live once, if you can afford it do it.
M3 / C63 owners reading this tell me how many people have complimented on your car since you've had it? I've had countless random conversations with strangers saying how stunning my car is.
You only live once, if you can afford it do it.
Edited by virtualm on Saturday 2nd June 12:46
Ares said:
Yes, but I'd say more because it has a wider range. 'E' and 'Normal' is softer than the M3 Comfort. Dynamic is similar to BMW sport+, but with better damping, and the soft damper setting drops that back to a similar setting to BMW Sport. Race takes it to be even firmer, but again with better damping benefitting both ride and grip/traction.
....all in my first hand experience but lay-person's understanding
I drove them back to back. The BMW set up if just very hard, and not very compliant. The Merc is far better, Audi wan't in the game. IME, the Alfa's set up is just better...perhaps the result of Ferrari-suspension gurus input?
As for the feel.....the Alfa just feels alive and makes the Germans' feel, well, Germanic.
As someone who has done many thousands of miles driving the demonstrators, I concur completely. Suspension is sublime - well-calibrated, compliant, quiet and with enough travel to be significantly better than the opposition in the wet. M3 is just oversprung, underdamped and dreadfully harsh, Audi slightly better, Merc better again but the Alfa beats them all by a country mile in 'feel' - it is utterly telepathic and follows your line of sight into a corner. ....all in my first hand experience but lay-person's understanding
I drove them back to back. The BMW set up if just very hard, and not very compliant. The Merc is far better, Audi wan't in the game. IME, the Alfa's set up is just better...perhaps the result of Ferrari-suspension gurus input?
As for the feel.....the Alfa just feels alive and makes the Germans' feel, well, Germanic.
All in my humble opinion, of course.
So my car is now 1 year old, 15,000 miles and still absolutely delighted by it. Nothing has gone wrong with the car except an overly sensitive alarm (sorted) at the very start. It is like no other car I’ve had (although a combo of the B7 RS4 and Boxster S, with a bit of Caterham - keeps coming to mind!) Leave it in ‘A’ mode and it is gentle, easy to drive and just about sensible, if it rains leave it in ‘D’ and you can give it the beans whilst having all the safety you need,when its dry put it in ‘R’ and smile all day long!
The car feels so light, yet so planted and compliant you just can’t help having a great time. It might be time to get on the track again
The car feels so light, yet so planted and compliant you just can’t help having a great time. It might be time to get on the track again
MegaCat said:
So my car is now 1 year old, 15,000 miles and still absolutely delighted by it. Nothing has gone wrong with the car except an overly sensitive alarm (sorted) at the very start. It is like no other car I’ve had (although a combo of the B7 RS4 and Boxster S, with a bit of Caterham - keeps coming to mind!) Leave it in ‘A’ mode and it is gentle, easy to drive and just about sensible, if it rains leave it in ‘D’ and you can give it the beans whilst having all the safety you need,when its dry put it in ‘R’ and smile all day long!
The car feels so light, yet so planted and compliant you just can’t help having a great time. It might be time to get on the track again
It really is a car that is more than the sum of it's parts. I only had the pleasure of driving one around Milbrook but it is a very special thing indeed!The car feels so light, yet so planted and compliant you just can’t help having a great time. It might be time to get on the track again
bad company said:
I’ve been looking at ordering one of these. I’m hearing that the Achilles Heal is the infotainment and electronics compared to German metal,
Any thoughts from owners?
The infotainment is functional and in the case of the sat nav simple and clear. It's not flashy and the graphics aren't fancy but I prefer that. I want to see my route clearly and know where I'm going to turn off. I don't need anything else.Any thoughts from owners?
As for anything else, I wouldn't have thought it was any better or worse than anything else with electronics. If you look there are plenty of people with German cars with electronic issues. The electronics are most likely the same Bosch (German) components.
I've done 16,000 miles in 14 months. I thought I'd be doing around 9,000 miles a year so that tells it's own story. I actually go for drives for fun now and I havent done that for years.
It's an awesome machine.
Haven't BMW just issued some huge recalls on their cars? I'm not sure why people still think German cars are more reliable and I don't know what Alfa need to do to shake off the image of unreliability.
The infotainment is fairly basic but works well.
Sat nav is good and clear, digital radio is good, I also play FLAC files from a very large memory stick with no issues.
Only downside is that the traffic info is only TMC which is quite basic, not TOM TOM Live or RTTI (had RTTI with a subscription on my BMW)
I have the HK sound system and it's ok, clear mids and highs, but the bass is a bit weak. If anything it's mostly down to the fact that they have tried to keep the weight down on this car I think, the door cards are quite light etc.
Give me three or 4 good driving modes over the 100+ config options on an M5 anyway of the week!
Just remembered, newer cars get Android Auto and Apple Car play - so that may address some people's fears.
Sat nav is good and clear, digital radio is good, I also play FLAC files from a very large memory stick with no issues.
Only downside is that the traffic info is only TMC which is quite basic, not TOM TOM Live or RTTI (had RTTI with a subscription on my BMW)
I have the HK sound system and it's ok, clear mids and highs, but the bass is a bit weak. If anything it's mostly down to the fact that they have tried to keep the weight down on this car I think, the door cards are quite light etc.
Give me three or 4 good driving modes over the 100+ config options on an M5 anyway of the week!
Just remembered, newer cars get Android Auto and Apple Car play - so that may address some people's fears.
No problem at all with the infotainment or sat nav. This is a drivers car, so all of these features take precedence! The Sat Nav works well, the graphics are fine and the features are all there. The sound system is good, but I generally listen to the sound of the car.
Please test drive this car, but be ready to buy one as soon as you do!
Please test drive this car, but be ready to buy one as soon as you do!
smarty156 said:
bad company said:
I’ve been looking at ordering one of these. I’m hearing that the Achilles Heal is the infotainment and electronics compared to German metal,
Any thoughts from owners?
The infotainment is functional and in the case of the sat nav simple and clear. It's not flashy and the graphics aren't fancy but I prefer that. I want to see my route clearly and know where I'm going to turn off. I don't need anything else.Any thoughts from owners?
As for anything else, I wouldn't have thought it was any better or worse than anything else with electronics. If you look there are plenty of people with German cars with electronic issues. The electronics are most likely the same Bosch (German) components.
I've done 16,000 miles in 14 months. I thought I'd be doing around 9,000 miles a year so that tells it's own story. I actually go for drives for fun now and I havent done that for years.
It's an awesome machine.
Haven't BMW just issued some huge recalls on their cars? I'm not sure why people still think German cars are more reliable and I don't know what Alfa need to do to shake off the image of unreliability.
Yes I think Alfa really let themselves down when it comes to some of the details on the car such as the screen resolution and some of the interior materials but it was probably the best way to make the car competitive in terms of price as they seem to have put huge amounts of time and money into development of the car chassis and engine wise.
urquattroGus said:
The infotainment is fairly basic but works well.
Sat nav is good and clear, digital radio is good, I also play FLAC files from a very large memory stick with no issues.
Only downside is that the traffic info is only TMC which is quite basic, not TOM TOM Live or RTTI (had RTTI with a subscription on my BMW)
I have the HK sound system and it's ok, clear mids and highs, but the bass is a bit weak. If anything it's mostly down to the fact that they have tried to keep the weight down on this car I think, the door cards are quite light etc.
Give me three or 4 good driving modes over the 100+ config options on an M5 anyway of the week!
Just remembered, newer cars get Android Auto and Apple Car play - so that may address some people's fears.
Sounds to me like Alfa is suffering from a reputation problem due to much older models.Sat nav is good and clear, digital radio is good, I also play FLAC files from a very large memory stick with no issues.
Only downside is that the traffic info is only TMC which is quite basic, not TOM TOM Live or RTTI (had RTTI with a subscription on my BMW)
I have the HK sound system and it's ok, clear mids and highs, but the bass is a bit weak. If anything it's mostly down to the fact that they have tried to keep the weight down on this car I think, the door cards are quite light etc.
Give me three or 4 good driving modes over the 100+ config options on an M5 anyway of the week!
Just remembered, newer cars get Android Auto and Apple Car play - so that may address some people's fears.
A bit like I’m often asked how many times my TVR breaks down. The answer is one breakdown in 16 years of ownership.
I’ll take a good look at this car but I’m not changing until early next year so no hurry.
frankenstein12 said:
Just to add I think it important to bear in mind that the newer, fancier and the more tech in a car the more there is to go wrong with it and the more expensive and time consuming it is to fix.
Yes I think Alfa really let themselves down when it comes to some of the details on the car such as the screen resolution and some of the interior materials but it was probably the best way to make the car competitive in terms of price as they seem to have put huge amounts of time and money into development of the car chassis and engine wise.
Pretty much this.Yes I think Alfa really let themselves down when it comes to some of the details on the car such as the screen resolution and some of the interior materials but it was probably the best way to make the car competitive in terms of price as they seem to have put huge amounts of time and money into development of the car chassis and engine wise.
An Alfa is a drivers car and everything centres around making that the best experience possible (which they have succeeded at).
The only comment I would disagree with is the screen resolution. It's not the resolution that's an issue (my album art looks very nice) it's just that the TomTom navigation graphics are (deliberately I assume) fairly simple. As I said, I like this as it makes navigation very easy.
If you want fancy graphics and aren't bothered about how a car feels and drives then maybe the Alfa isn't the right car.
As said, go and try one but be prepared to buy one if you do. See how long it takes for the from to leave your face after too!
A friend let me drive one late last year and I was smitten. Took delivery of mine around two months ago and absolutely love it. Its not perfect but not far off for me. Infotainment was not a priority for me as I really only bother with local radio, Radio2 and 4 so cant comment on the rest of it. I ordered the Sparco seats which are a tad hard for some but suit my dodgy back. The only little niggle is that you have to keep turning off the stop/start switch if you don't like it and the button is not obvious, the brakes are a bit grabby at low speeds but no big deal. However, as a driving experience, its up there with the best in my opinion. Mine is in Vesuvio Grey so is quite understated which I like being an introvert.
Do test drive one but beware you will need to have one afterwards.
Do test drive one but beware you will need to have one afterwards.
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