Looking at 105s

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Started looking around having been inspired by the Alfaholics GTAR thread but obviously not that many cars around. Ideally a step front with a solid body (restored Or other) and an engine swap wouldn't worry me, fast road spec would be ideal.
I've searched on here and found a few links to dealers etc, anyone who can point me in the right direction would get a big thank you :-)

Emailed about this one already but owner seems hard work, doesn't have any other pictures or want to offer any so I doubt I'll travel hundred plus miles to view
http://classicalfa.com/products.php?product=1965-G...


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coetzeeh

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Www.stelvio.dk

These guys always have quality stock.

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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coetzeeh said:
Www.stelvio.dk

These guys always have quality stock.
Cheers am browsing and their old sales :-)

coetzeeh

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Wednesday 23rd August 2017
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Mound Dawg

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Thursday 24th August 2017
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Look up Balocco Classics in Holland if LHD doesn't worry you.

Elderly

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Thursday 24th August 2017
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200Plus Club said:
Started looking around having been inspired by the Alfaholics GTAR thread.......... Ideally a step front with a solid body (restored Or other) and an engine swap wouldn't worry me, fast road spec would be ideal.


Emailed about this one already .....
http://classicalfa.com/products.php?product=1965-G...
If you've been inspired by the GTAR, then I don't think that an early 1570cc Bertone coupe such as the one above will excite you.
I actually rather like that one (no I'm not after it smile) as it's an early example with lots of history - I'd be very wary of the engine condition
with those open carbs and although I like GTA style wheels, I'd definitely have steels on a car such as that.



velocemitch

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Thursday 24th August 2017
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That Spring GT looks like a cracker. I think if you are serious about a 105 and it's within budget to travel 100 mile is a no brainier.
Though the vendor should be working a bit harder I'd want underside photos proper history etc, before making the trip. Wheels could easily be changed open carbs like wise. That car would have had the old cross over style air filter which was a bit restrictive and made tuning the carbs a bit trickier too.

No it won't be a pants on fire manic machine like the GTAR but it will still be a superb car to own and cherish.

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Thursday 24th August 2017
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velocemitch said:
That Spring GT looks like a cracker. I think if you are serious about a 105 and it's within budget to travel 100 mile is a no brainier.
Though the vendor should be working a bit harder I'd want underside photos proper history etc, before making the trip. Wheels could easily be changed open carbs like wise. That car would have had the old cross over style air filter which was a bit restrictive and made tuning the carbs a bit trickier too.

No it won't be a pants on fire manic machine like the GTAR but it will still be a superb car to own and cherish.
Exactly all I asked for. Any pics, what's the history. Was told it's worth every penny, no more pics, come view if interested. Not sure I want that to be the first one I view!

arguti

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Friday 25th August 2017
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200Plus Club said:
velocemitch said:
That Spring GT looks like a cracker. I think if you are serious about a 105 and it's within budget to travel 100 mile is a no brainier.
Though the vendor should be working a bit harder I'd want underside photos proper history etc, before making the trip. Wheels could easily be changed open carbs like wise. That car would have had the old cross over style air filter which was a bit restrictive and made tuning the carbs a bit trickier too.

No it won't be a pants on fire manic machine like the GTAR but it will still be a superb car to own and cherish.
Exactly all I asked for. Any pics, what's the history. Was told it's worth every penny, no more pics, come view if interested. Not sure I want that to be the first one I view!
The car is a pretty well known car so I suppose the owners view was that, if you knew anything about 105 coupes, you would not be asking the questions and be over there like a shot- not defending him but just trying to interpret his communication strategy.

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Friday 25th August 2017
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Fair comment. Well known on a forum? I'm not on any yet so don't know him or the car unfortunately. Unusual not to have any chassis or underside pics of it I thought that's all. If it was 50 miles away it wouldn't matter :-)

velocemitch

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Friday 25th August 2017
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Well to be fair I've been around 105 forums for more than 10 years now and I don't know it.
The vendors name rings a bell, but I may be confusing him with another of the same name.

Either way on balance I would go and look, because it is probably well worth the asking price.

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Friday 25th August 2017
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Managed to drop on one very local to view on Sunday to start the ball rolling and as luck has it I know where it's been serviced and looked after for last 3 yrs! See what happens, I've never even driven one to be honest.

arguti

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Saturday 26th August 2017
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Good idea to take one for a test drive - I have a number of Alfas from alfetta GTV6s, 75s, 105s, alfasud and 155s and they are all very different to drive - I also had a 105 spider from new so know what they should feel like out of the box and many of the 105s have been messed about which is why my best advice is speak to the usual suspects who will know which good cars may be available but not necessarily advertised for sale if that makes sense.thats how I sourced my best Alfas with hindsight.

A well sorted and maintained 105 should be cheap to maintain (certainly cheaper than the transaxle 116 series).

For a more modern Alfa don't discount the 155, practical and cheap as chips now and easily upgraded, etc.

Ps whereabouts are you based ? I am in Worcester so if nearby you can always come over and see a few different Alfas and a lancia or two.

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Saturday 26th August 2017
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arguti said:
Good idea to take one for a test drive - I have a number of Alfas from alfetta GTV6s, 75s, 105s, alfasud and 155s and they are all very different to drive - I also had a 105 spider from new so know what they should feel like out of the box and many of the 105s have been messed about which is why my best advice is speak to the usual suspects who will know which good cars may be available but not necessarily advertised for sale if that makes sense.thats how I sourced my best Alfas with hindsight.

A well sorted and maintained 105 should be cheap to maintain (certainly cheaper than the transaxle 116 series).

For a more modern Alfa don't discount the 155, practical and cheap as chips now and easily upgraded, etc.

Ps whereabouts are you based ? I am in Worcester so if nearby you can always come over and see a few different Alfas and a lancia or two.
Very kind offer! Am in Sheffield. The 105 is to be honest the only Alfa classic I'd be considering, I did recently however drive the new QF with 500+bhp and would happily have one if I wasn't a bit wary on first year depreciation and reliability with it being new.

I ran a sunbeam lotus for 3 yrs and won a couple of trophies with it at the club events but I bought it as a restored car as bodywork isn't my thing. 150bhp on carbs in a lightweight classic was fun :-)

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Monday 28th August 2017
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Test drive yesterday on this
http://classicalfa.com/products.php?product=1972-A...
it's very nice and solid and drives well. It's bog stock so performance as to be expected, it wouldn't light many fires but it drove and steered very well. The front wings are just starting to go on the arch lips but thats all you can fault, its had a restoration 3 or 4 yrs ago but probably a smaller scale one.
Step front with 160bhp or so still on my bucket list methinks!

arguti

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Monday 28th August 2017
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That's strong money for a later one - I have a late 2l in similar condition and I would only be looking for around 18k if I were to sell but if I were looking for a 105 I would be sticking to earlier stepfronts -either original or as upgradeable project.

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Monday 28th August 2017
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arguti said:
That's strong money for a later one - I have a late 2l in similar condition and I would only be looking for around 18k if I were to sell but if I were looking for a 105 I would be sticking to earlier stepfronts -either original or as upgradeable project.
I think 23k would secure it and it's very solid but I think I'm hooked on a step front now and bumperless :-)

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Monday 28th August 2017
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Saying that this looks a bargain lol or a typo
https://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/...

velocemitch

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Monday 28th August 2017
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That advert seems to have disappeared!.

Do you really think the 2000GTV's are not fetching those figures Arguti?. I seem to remember seeing plenty advertised at that or higher, not many lower.
Obviously asking price is not sale price, maybe people are just being optimistic?.

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Tuesday 29th August 2017
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Yes it's gone maybe it was a scam anyway. The search continues.
I'm hoping to get to an Alfa meet or event at some point even if next year as I generally only see these cars at the classic racing stuff I attend, it would be good to look over one closely with a knowledgeable owner.

One thing I am suprised at is how much spares/panels/parts are still available for the cars compared to when I had the Sunbeam Lotus. People were literally making wings and sills from other cars as virtually impossible to find them and no pattern bits available. I paid 100 quid for 2 plastic bumper over riders (new old stock) and sold my scratched originals for 50 quid!

Edited by 200Plus Club on Tuesday 29th August 06:53