Alfa Romeo GT (2004-2010)
Discussion
So I have heard and I want one. Looking for a 1.9 because of high mileage.
My garage had one which was just sold. Ow bugger and what a great place to sit in. Rear seats can accomodate not too long adults for not too long time I guess? My GF 2.0 147 is a tad bigger.
My garage (classic and modern Alfa) has a mint V6 but that's just too much for me. Some high miler diesels still look good.
My garage had one which was just sold. Ow bugger and what a great place to sit in. Rear seats can accomodate not too long adults for not too long time I guess? My GF 2.0 147 is a tad bigger.
My garage (classic and modern Alfa) has a mint V6 but that's just too much for me. Some high miler diesels still look good.
Have had a 57 as a DD for the last 3 years. It was a 1 owner fsh car so well looked after. I have just passed 100k and it flew through an mot last week without even any advisories. I do all my own servicing except belts and it has had only discs, pads, bits of exhaust and a passenger door hinge (passenger door is rarely used so they can seize but a common part to a Fiat 500). It does have the odd front suspension squeak, so a job to do at some point.
It is also the unloved JTS but I've had no misfire issues. It is perfectly quick enough for my 36 mile commute and returns 34 mpg. It is a lovely place to sit on tan leather and very comfortable for a 400 mile journey. Mine has heated seats (I've used about twice), Bose, which is ok and cruise control, which is great and used all the time. It also steers nicely, being quite pointy for twisty bits not the usual understeery mush.
Quality wise inside, it is far better than my old F355 and my current Maserati and easily on a par with the BMWs I have had (at the E36 sweet spot) And can seat 4 reasonable sized people if necessary and best of all, can get the dog in the good sized boot.
So go for it, I think they still look good and different. Unfortunately I would love but can't justify a v6 but I never understood why there wasn't a GTA version as with the contempory 156 and 147.
Other non-Italian cars are available (but probably not as much fun)
It is also the unloved JTS but I've had no misfire issues. It is perfectly quick enough for my 36 mile commute and returns 34 mpg. It is a lovely place to sit on tan leather and very comfortable for a 400 mile journey. Mine has heated seats (I've used about twice), Bose, which is ok and cruise control, which is great and used all the time. It also steers nicely, being quite pointy for twisty bits not the usual understeery mush.
Quality wise inside, it is far better than my old F355 and my current Maserati and easily on a par with the BMWs I have had (at the E36 sweet spot) And can seat 4 reasonable sized people if necessary and best of all, can get the dog in the good sized boot.
So go for it, I think they still look good and different. Unfortunately I would love but can't justify a v6 but I never understood why there wasn't a GTA version as with the contempory 156 and 147.
Other non-Italian cars are available (but probably not as much fun)
Id love one, and considering it is basically a 147 in a sportier coat (and with more punchy motors), i wouldnt be overly worried about the mechanicals either
What is currently keeping me out of a GT is the fact that despite it being "just" a fancy 147, they are roughly twice as expensive, and i can only look at really bottom of the market GTs, most of which come with the questionable JTS engine.
What is currently keeping me out of a GT is the fact that despite it being "just" a fancy 147, they are roughly twice as expensive, and i can only look at really bottom of the market GTs, most of which come with the questionable JTS engine.
As has been said, the 1.9JTDM engine is well worth a try: I have that engine in my 156, it is 150BHP from the factory, I have had it remapped to about 190BHP, with no change in the mpg ( I get about 42mpg on a commute of motorway/decent a roads ).
When remapped the torque is amazing, especially in 5th & 6th. Mine has also had the EGR mod which helps, and a decent cat back stainless exhaust system.
When remapped the torque is amazing, especially in 5th & 6th. Mine has also had the EGR mod which helps, and a decent cat back stainless exhaust system.
sawman said:
So, any news?
Is the general concensus that the 1.9 diesel is the one to go for? I have never had a diesel, but would love a GT and most of them seem to be oil burners
Depends, if you do many miles, the diesel is by far the sensible option, and with 150hp (or 170 with a map), they certainly arent slow either.Is the general concensus that the 1.9 diesel is the one to go for? I have never had a diesel, but would love a GT and most of them seem to be oil burners
If you can afford the fuel though, the 3.2 V6 is by far THE engine to go for, as it is the last incarnation of the Busso V6, the fastest option for the GT, and sound wise will obviously leave the diesel for dead
The 1.8 TS meanwhile is much cheaper then the V6, and if you dont need loads of power, and dont do loads of miles is the cheap and easy way of getting a GT, the TS units are well known engines, and while not without fault, there are plenty of alfa indys, and plenty of knowledge on how to keep them in good shape.
The only engine i find hard to make a case for is the JTS, they are (over here) the most plentiful engine, but they have more potential issues, and were only used in the 156 (for 3 years) and the GT, and power wise they arent a significant jump over the 1.8, especially since most JTSes dont make the spec power number (they didnt even fresh from the factory).
If you do enough miles to justify a diesel, the JTD GT is an excellent car though
Vitorio said:
Depends, if you do many miles, the diesel is by far the sensible option, and with 150hp (or 170 with a map), they certainly arent slow either.
If you can afford the fuel though, the 3.2 V6 is by far THE engine to go for, as it is the last incarnation of the Busso V6, the fastest option for the GT, and sound wise will obviously leave the diesel for dead
The 1.8 TS meanwhile is much cheaper then the V6, and if you dont need loads of power, and dont do loads of miles is the cheap and easy way of getting a GT, the TS units are well known engines, and while not without fault, there are plenty of alfa indys, and plenty of knowledge on how to keep them in good shape.
The only engine i find hard to make a case for is the JTS, they are (over here) the most plentiful engine, but they have more potential issues, and were only used in the 156 (for 3 years) and the GT, and power wise they arent a significant jump over the 1.8, especially since most JTSes dont make the spec power number (they didnt even fresh from the factory).
If you do enough miles to justify a diesel, the JTD GT is an excellent car though
Cheers for that info, I do about 15k miles a year, and just sold my 3.0 subaru. Was planning to pick up golf gte on lease from work but they have closed the order bookIf you can afford the fuel though, the 3.2 V6 is by far THE engine to go for, as it is the last incarnation of the Busso V6, the fastest option for the GT, and sound wise will obviously leave the diesel for dead
The 1.8 TS meanwhile is much cheaper then the V6, and if you dont need loads of power, and dont do loads of miles is the cheap and easy way of getting a GT, the TS units are well known engines, and while not without fault, there are plenty of alfa indys, and plenty of knowledge on how to keep them in good shape.
The only engine i find hard to make a case for is the JTS, they are (over here) the most plentiful engine, but they have more potential issues, and were only used in the 156 (for 3 years) and the GT, and power wise they arent a significant jump over the 1.8, especially since most JTSes dont make the spec power number (they didnt even fresh from the factory).
If you do enough miles to justify a diesel, the JTD GT is an excellent car though
I’d love a busso, but it may not be sensible given the mileage, there are a couple of 1.9 diesels advertised nearby i might have a look at ( theres a couple of breras not too far away too, which look fab not sure what engine they are packing)
Off to do more research.....
sawman said:
Cheers for that info, I do about 15k miles a year, and just sold my 3.0 subaru. Was planning to pick up golf gte on lease from work but they have closed the order book
I’d love a busso, but it may not be sensible given the mileage, there are a couple of 1.9 diesels advertised nearby i might have a look at ( theres a couple of breras not too far away too, which look fab not sure what engine they are packing)
Off to do more research.....
At 15K a year, a diesel does make sense, and the V6 would get tiresome to fill up all the timeI’d love a busso, but it may not be sensible given the mileage, there are a couple of 1.9 diesels advertised nearby i might have a look at ( theres a couple of breras not too far away too, which look fab not sure what engine they are packing)
Off to do more research.....
The diesels are good engines, just keep an eye on the timing belt (i think the interval is 3 years or 72K, whichever is first), and you should be safe, there are plenty of JTD cars which have reached 200-250K miles without trouble, that should tell you something about the engine
I bought a diesel GT in 2013 to save me putting miles on my Fiat Coupe.
The GT was a bit leggy (150k) and had been subjected to a pretty poor partial respray. It didn't bother me, as I wanted a car that I wouldn't get too proud about, or worried when it got stone chips or parking dents.
Four and a half years later, it has just shy of 240,000 miles on the clock and is still going strong. Its had a clutch and a turbo, plus the usual Alfa consumables (brakes and wishbones), but otherwise, it has been spectacularly reliable, amazingly practical, ridiculously comfortable and surprisingly economical.
Any excuse to post a couple of photos of a recent photography outing
The GT was a bit leggy (150k) and had been subjected to a pretty poor partial respray. It didn't bother me, as I wanted a car that I wouldn't get too proud about, or worried when it got stone chips or parking dents.
Four and a half years later, it has just shy of 240,000 miles on the clock and is still going strong. Its had a clutch and a turbo, plus the usual Alfa consumables (brakes and wishbones), but otherwise, it has been spectacularly reliable, amazingly practical, ridiculously comfortable and surprisingly economical.
Any excuse to post a couple of photos of a recent photography outing
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