Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?

Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?

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pidsy

5,161 posts

105 months

Wednesday 9th October
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Do they change like for like or do you end up with the new tips even if it’s an older car?

AbarthTwins

26 posts

7 months

Wednesday 9th October
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pidsy said:
Do they change like for like or do you end up with the new tips even if it’s an older car?
If you had a spring valve, you'd get a spring valve.

I replaced mine a few months back - good thing is that the warranty on the monza is 3 years from when it's put on the car. So if the car is out of warranty but the monza still is in warranty you can have it replaced.

pidsy

5,161 posts

105 months

Wednesday 9th October
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AbarthTwins said:
pidsy said:
Do they change like for like or do you end up with the new tips even if it’s an older car?
If you had a spring valve, you'd get a spring valve.

I replaced mine a few months back - good thing is that the warranty on the monza is 3 years from when it's put on the car. So if the car is out of warranty but the monza still is in warranty you can have it replaced.
I was just curious. I prefer the design of the old one so wouldn’t want it changed for the new one if it needed doing.
I’ll be going aftermarket soon anyway.

AbarthTwins

26 posts

7 months

Wednesday 9th October
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pidsy said:
I was just curious. I prefer the design of the old one so wouldn’t want it changed for the new one if it needed doing.
I’ll be going aftermarket soon anyway.
Old one comes in two types, steel and mid steel - the mid steel one is painted black except for the tips.

Yeah, just take heed that technically the Monza is one of the louded road legal exhausts in the country - any other like the bomb are technically not legal and you can get fined if the police stop you.

if! angel

georgefreeman918

244 posts

47 months

Wednesday 9th October
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My research into Abarth ownership continues and would appreciate any thoughts on the following:

Will be used a daily through spring, autumn and winter, getting a small break in the summer months (due to motorcycle), but will cover around 15,000 per year. Does anyone have any experience of doing this kind of mileage?

I am not concerned about residual values, but more concerned about servicing. Based on my mileage I am going to need a service every 6 - 9 months. Are there any models that don't need a service every 10k miles?

Also what do people get in terms of real world MPG?

ecsrobin

10,225 posts

113 months

Wednesday 9th October
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georgefreeman918 said:
My research into Abarth ownership continues and would appreciate any thoughts on the following:

Will be used a daily through spring, autumn and winter, getting a small break in the summer months (due to motorcycle), but will cover around 15,000 per year. Does anyone have any experience of doing this kind of mileage?

I am not concerned about residual values, but more concerned about servicing. Based on my mileage I am going to need a service every 6 - 9 months. Are there any models that don't need a service every 10k miles?

Also what do people get in terms of real world MPG?
I get 37mpg real world and commute all year it’s our main car. Service is every 9,000miles and 6,000 on the older cars, Biposto I think the shocks are every 3,000 miles.

V-spec

653 posts

199 months

Wednesday 9th October
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geeks said:
Mine is a 2018 model and has the vacuum activated valve. It was changed in the second half of 2018 so in theory it could be either. Easiest way to check is actually tailpipe design, if you have these is the spring valve:


If you have these its the vac valve:
Thanks Abarthtwins and Geeks for these two replies, very useful thumbup

RATATTAK

5,707 posts

137 months

Wednesday 9th October
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ecsrobin said:
................... Biposto I think the shocks are every 3,000 miles.
Anyone know why ?

ecsrobin

10,225 posts

113 months

Thursday 10th October
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RATATTAK said:
ecsrobin said:
................... Biposto I think the shocks are every 3,000 miles.
Anyone know why ?
The manufacturer says so.

“ In road use we recommend a revision every 3000 km traveled and 1000 km for competitive use.”

http://www.extremeshox.com/wp-content/uploads/2017...

The 500/124 rally shocks it’s every few 100km!

RATATTAK

5,707 posts

137 months

Thursday 10th October
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ecsrobin said:
The manufacturer says so.

“ In road use we recommend a revision every 3000 km traveled and 1000 km for competitive use.”

http://www.extremeshox.com/wp-content/uploads/2017...

The 500/124 rally shocks it’s every few 100km!
Many thanks

pidsy

5,161 posts

105 months

Thursday 10th October
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AbarthTwins said:
pidsy said:
Yeah, just take heed that technically the Monza is one of the louded road legal exhausts in the country - any other like the bomb are technically not legal and you can get fined if the police stop you.

if! angel
I’d never heard that it’s one of the loudest legal exhausts. That’s interesting.
Based on that fact, I’m guessing the likes of bombardone, MS-R, Madness are not type approved so therefore illegal?

ecsrobin

10,225 posts

113 months

Thursday 10th October
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pidsy said:
AbarthTwins said:
pidsy said:
Yeah, just take heed that technically the Monza is one of the louded road legal exhausts in the country - any other like the bomb are technically not legal and you can get fined if the police stop you.

if! angel
I’d never heard that it’s one of the loudest legal exhausts. That’s interesting.
Based on that fact, I’m guessing the likes of bombardone, MS-R, Madness are not type approved so therefore illegal?
I’m almost certain that is incorrect take any Lamborghini, Ferrari, Mclaren and so on are all louder.

V-spec

653 posts

199 months

Friday 11th October
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Hi All

I’ve started noticing something strange with my car in the last few days. It has happened three times but I can’t manage to recreate it when I try.

Each time I was holding a steady speed in town (50km/h) in either second or third gear (2.5 or 3k revs). Then I reached the NSL and put my foot down (full throttle), but instead of a accelerating the revs dropped to idle.

The first couple of times I nearly headbutted the steering wheel… banghead

At first I thought maybe the car is fitted with a throttle overide to avoid “unintended sudden acceleration”, which I think is required in the US. But it would be a bit strange on a car like an Abarth…

Any thoughts?

AbarthTwins

26 posts

7 months

Wednesday 16th October
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Right, I've seen a fk ton of questions and misinformation about the Record Monza Systems - Let me clear some of it up.

OLD MONZA (Pre Sept 2018)

The old Monza exhaust is spring operated, and has the notorious issue of seizing up.
It opens at 3.5k revs if not seized - at idle and in low revs it is closed - providing some back pressure.

Personally, I prefer the sound of these as they are less rhaspy as the new models.

THEY LOOK LIKE THIS:



PROTIP: you can wire the valve open.
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NEW MONZA (POST Sept 2018)

The new one is valve operated from the sport button - when sport is pressed, the valve opens.
It opens at idle and you can tell the difference in tone from switching back and forth by pressing sport.

This monza opens at idle, closes when you drive off, and reopens again at 3.5k revs, this is due to the backpressure lower down the rev range.

The new monza looks like this:



Notice how they are now rounded and chrome - whereas the old one is not rounded and is made of steel.

PROTIP

You can also force the valve to open on the new models. Just unplug the plug circled in the image below.





Any questions. Hit me up. [url]

Edited by AbarthTwins on Wednesday 16th October 15:37


Edited by AbarthTwins on Wednesday 16th October 16:11

geeks

Original Poster:

4,903 posts

87 months

Wednesday 16th October
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AbarthTwins said:
t.

This monza opens at idle, closes when you drive off, and reopens again at 3.5k revs, this is due to the backpressure lower down the rev range.
Are you certain about this? Mine sounds no different at 2k than 3.5k with sport mode on.


In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.

AbarthTwins

26 posts

7 months

Wednesday 16th October
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geeks said:
Are you certain about this? Mine sounds no different at 2k than 3.5k with sport mode on.


In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
Valve or spring for yours? If its spring and sounds no different. It might be seized!

If its the sport - maybe you arent noticing it... I can hear the difference between my brothers 2019 comp and my 2017 trofeo. .



geeks

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4,903 posts

87 months

Wednesday 16th October
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AbarthTwins said:
geeks said:
Are you certain about this? Mine sounds no different at 2k than 3.5k with sport mode on.


In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
Valve or spring for yours? If its spring and sounds no different. It might be seized!

If its the sport - maybe you arent noticing it... I can hear the difference between my brothers 2019 comp and my 2017 trofeo. .
Valve, put it into sport then off you go, sounds the same at 2k as well as 3.5k when in spot mode, doesn't sound like the valve shuts to me and it is definitely much quieter out of sport mode.

ecsrobin

10,225 posts

113 months

Wednesday 16th October
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AbarthTwins said:
Right, I've seen a fk ton of questions and misinformation about the Record Monza Systems - Let me clear some of it up.
Agreed I’ve heard it’s one of the loudest legal exhausts in the UK rofl

Bungleaio

5,507 posts

150 months

Wednesday 16th October
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I didn't know about pulling that plug. I might have to give it a try.

AbarthTwins

26 posts

7 months

Wednesday 16th October
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ecsrobin said:
Agreed I’ve heard it’s one of the loudest legal exhausts in the UK rofl
The Monza in open mode is 89 decibels. Legal limit is 94 decibels.

A f type Jaguar is 69 decibels.

Didn't say it was top. I said it was up near the top.