Abarth 595 Competizione as a daily?
Discussion
pidsy said:
Do they change like for like or do you end up with the new tips even if it’s an older car?
If you had a spring valve, you'd get a spring valve. I replaced mine a few months back - good thing is that the warranty on the monza is 3 years from when it's put on the car. So if the car is out of warranty but the monza still is in warranty you can have it replaced.
AbarthTwins said:
pidsy said:
Do they change like for like or do you end up with the new tips even if it’s an older car?
If you had a spring valve, you'd get a spring valve. I replaced mine a few months back - good thing is that the warranty on the monza is 3 years from when it's put on the car. So if the car is out of warranty but the monza still is in warranty you can have it replaced.
I’ll be going aftermarket soon anyway.
pidsy said:
I was just curious. I prefer the design of the old one so wouldn’t want it changed for the new one if it needed doing.
I’ll be going aftermarket soon anyway.
Old one comes in two types, steel and mid steel - the mid steel one is painted black except for the tips. I’ll be going aftermarket soon anyway.
Yeah, just take heed that technically the Monza is one of the louded road legal exhausts in the country - any other like the bomb are technically not legal and you can get fined if the police stop you.
if!
My research into Abarth ownership continues and would appreciate any thoughts on the following:
Will be used a daily through spring, autumn and winter, getting a small break in the summer months (due to motorcycle), but will cover around 15,000 per year. Does anyone have any experience of doing this kind of mileage?
I am not concerned about residual values, but more concerned about servicing. Based on my mileage I am going to need a service every 6 - 9 months. Are there any models that don't need a service every 10k miles?
Also what do people get in terms of real world MPG?
Will be used a daily through spring, autumn and winter, getting a small break in the summer months (due to motorcycle), but will cover around 15,000 per year. Does anyone have any experience of doing this kind of mileage?
I am not concerned about residual values, but more concerned about servicing. Based on my mileage I am going to need a service every 6 - 9 months. Are there any models that don't need a service every 10k miles?
Also what do people get in terms of real world MPG?
georgefreeman918 said:
My research into Abarth ownership continues and would appreciate any thoughts on the following:
Will be used a daily through spring, autumn and winter, getting a small break in the summer months (due to motorcycle), but will cover around 15,000 per year. Does anyone have any experience of doing this kind of mileage?
I am not concerned about residual values, but more concerned about servicing. Based on my mileage I am going to need a service every 6 - 9 months. Are there any models that don't need a service every 10k miles?
Also what do people get in terms of real world MPG?
I get 37mpg real world and commute all year it’s our main car. Service is every 9,000miles and 6,000 on the older cars, Biposto I think the shocks are every 3,000 miles. Will be used a daily through spring, autumn and winter, getting a small break in the summer months (due to motorcycle), but will cover around 15,000 per year. Does anyone have any experience of doing this kind of mileage?
I am not concerned about residual values, but more concerned about servicing. Based on my mileage I am going to need a service every 6 - 9 months. Are there any models that don't need a service every 10k miles?
Also what do people get in terms of real world MPG?
geeks said:
Mine is a 2018 model and has the vacuum activated valve. It was changed in the second half of 2018 so in theory it could be either. Easiest way to check is actually tailpipe design, if you have these is the spring valve:
If you have these its the vac valve:
Thanks Abarthtwins and Geeks for these two replies, very useful If you have these its the vac valve:
RATATTAK said:
ecsrobin said:
................... Biposto I think the shocks are every 3,000 miles.
Anyone know why ?“ In road use we recommend a revision every 3000 km traveled and 1000 km for competitive use.”
http://www.extremeshox.com/wp-content/uploads/2017...
The 500/124 rally shocks it’s every few 100km!
ecsrobin said:
The manufacturer says so.
“ In road use we recommend a revision every 3000 km traveled and 1000 km for competitive use.”
http://www.extremeshox.com/wp-content/uploads/2017...
The 500/124 rally shocks it’s every few 100km!
Many thanks“ In road use we recommend a revision every 3000 km traveled and 1000 km for competitive use.”
http://www.extremeshox.com/wp-content/uploads/2017...
The 500/124 rally shocks it’s every few 100km!
AbarthTwins said:
pidsy said:
Yeah, just take heed that technically the Monza is one of the louded road legal exhausts in the country - any other like the bomb are technically not legal and you can get fined if the police stop you.
if!
I’d never heard that it’s one of the loudest legal exhausts. That’s interesting. if!
Based on that fact, I’m guessing the likes of bombardone, MS-R, Madness are not type approved so therefore illegal?
pidsy said:
AbarthTwins said:
pidsy said:
Yeah, just take heed that technically the Monza is one of the louded road legal exhausts in the country - any other like the bomb are technically not legal and you can get fined if the police stop you.
if!
I’d never heard that it’s one of the loudest legal exhausts. That’s interesting. if!
Based on that fact, I’m guessing the likes of bombardone, MS-R, Madness are not type approved so therefore illegal?
Hi All
I’ve started noticing something strange with my car in the last few days. It has happened three times but I can’t manage to recreate it when I try.
Each time I was holding a steady speed in town (50km/h) in either second or third gear (2.5 or 3k revs). Then I reached the NSL and put my foot down (full throttle), but instead of a accelerating the revs dropped to idle.
The first couple of times I nearly headbutted the steering wheel…
At first I thought maybe the car is fitted with a throttle overide to avoid “unintended sudden acceleration”, which I think is required in the US. But it would be a bit strange on a car like an Abarth…
Any thoughts?
I’ve started noticing something strange with my car in the last few days. It has happened three times but I can’t manage to recreate it when I try.
Each time I was holding a steady speed in town (50km/h) in either second or third gear (2.5 or 3k revs). Then I reached the NSL and put my foot down (full throttle), but instead of a accelerating the revs dropped to idle.
The first couple of times I nearly headbutted the steering wheel…
At first I thought maybe the car is fitted with a throttle overide to avoid “unintended sudden acceleration”, which I think is required in the US. But it would be a bit strange on a car like an Abarth…
Any thoughts?
Right, I've seen a fk ton of questions and misinformation about the Record Monza Systems - Let me clear some of it up.
OLD MONZA (Pre Sept 2018)
The old Monza exhaust is spring operated, and has the notorious issue of seizing up.
It opens at 3.5k revs if not seized - at idle and in low revs it is closed - providing some back pressure.
Personally, I prefer the sound of these as they are less rhaspy as the new models.
THEY LOOK LIKE THIS:
PROTIP: you can wire the valve open.
|https://thumbsnap.com/bOoKBF6Z[/url]
NEW MONZA (POST Sept 2018)
The new one is valve operated from the sport button - when sport is pressed, the valve opens.
It opens at idle and you can tell the difference in tone from switching back and forth by pressing sport.
This monza opens at idle, closes when you drive off, and reopens again at 3.5k revs, this is due to the backpressure lower down the rev range.
The new monza looks like this:
Notice how they are now rounded and chrome - whereas the old one is not rounded and is made of steel.
PROTIP
You can also force the valve to open on the new models. Just unplug the plug circled in the image below.
Any questions. Hit me up. [url]
OLD MONZA (Pre Sept 2018)
The old Monza exhaust is spring operated, and has the notorious issue of seizing up.
It opens at 3.5k revs if not seized - at idle and in low revs it is closed - providing some back pressure.
Personally, I prefer the sound of these as they are less rhaspy as the new models.
THEY LOOK LIKE THIS:
PROTIP: you can wire the valve open.
|https://thumbsnap.com/bOoKBF6Z[/url]
NEW MONZA (POST Sept 2018)
The new one is valve operated from the sport button - when sport is pressed, the valve opens.
It opens at idle and you can tell the difference in tone from switching back and forth by pressing sport.
This monza opens at idle, closes when you drive off, and reopens again at 3.5k revs, this is due to the backpressure lower down the rev range.
The new monza looks like this:
Notice how they are now rounded and chrome - whereas the old one is not rounded and is made of steel.
PROTIP
You can also force the valve to open on the new models. Just unplug the plug circled in the image below.
Any questions. Hit me up. [url]
Edited by AbarthTwins on Wednesday 16th October 15:37
Edited by AbarthTwins on Wednesday 16th October 16:11
AbarthTwins said:
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This monza opens at idle, closes when you drive off, and reopens again at 3.5k revs, this is due to the backpressure lower down the rev range.
Are you certain about this? Mine sounds no different at 2k than 3.5k with sport mode on. This monza opens at idle, closes when you drive off, and reopens again at 3.5k revs, this is due to the backpressure lower down the rev range.
In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
geeks said:
Are you certain about this? Mine sounds no different at 2k than 3.5k with sport mode on.
In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
Valve or spring for yours? If its spring and sounds no different. It might be seized! In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
If its the sport - maybe you arent noticing it... I can hear the difference between my brothers 2019 comp and my 2017 trofeo. .
AbarthTwins said:
geeks said:
Are you certain about this? Mine sounds no different at 2k than 3.5k with sport mode on.
In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
Valve or spring for yours? If its spring and sounds no different. It might be seized! In other news my BMC panel filter arrived the other day, fitted it in and have done a couple of hundred miles on it, I have to say it does actually make a very marginal difference to the way it picks up and pulls (no longer seems to flat spot at 5.5k) the turbo also seems a little louder as well. They also sent me the fuel cap, have decided to leave it off though as it isn't lockable as cool as it looks. I might fit it for shows and stuff though.
If its the sport - maybe you arent noticing it... I can hear the difference between my brothers 2019 comp and my 2017 trofeo. .
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