4C - Where are we with prices right now?

4C - Where are we with prices right now?

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Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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DeejRC said:
Mine currently has 20000 miles on her after 10months, so ill have to do something.
Wow that's impressive. How's it been reliability wise? are you running factory set up or have you gone the Alfaworks geo route? I'm of a view mine doesn't need it.

Edited by Armitage.Shanks on Wednesday 11th July 11:15

Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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DeejRC said:
Mine currently has 20000 miles on her after 10months, so ill have to do something.
Wow that's impressive. How's it been reliability wise? are you running factory set up or have you gone the Alfaworks geo route? I'm of a view mine doesn't need it.

Edited by Armitage.Shanks on Wednesday 11th July 17:51

DeejRC

1,026 posts

30 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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Absolutely fine, not a single thing wrong or needed any work. I had Jamie put the intermediate set up on her in March at the 12k service. I’ll probably have him do something at the next service, maybe his exhaust - I do a lot of cruising miles. I don’t mind th drone from 74mph though, it means I return 42mpg and keep the monthly average over 40.

At the end of the day most ppl drive st cars to work. I drive a carbon fibre tuxedo.

_Superleggera_

1,950 posts

145 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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The beauty of the 4C is that there is very little to go wrong with them.

The engine and gearbox has been used for a long time in the Giulietta QV in its previous iron cast block and also in the aluminium block form since 2014. It has been proven to be very reliable in these cars.

It is even less stressed in the lightweight 4C. Many of the US guys have well over 30 and 40,000 miles in their cars with minimal issues.

People should not be put off by cars with higher mileages. The condition of the car is far more important.

I'd rather have a 10,000 mile car that has been garaged through winter, rather than a 2000 mile car that is kept outside all year round.

MattyB_

1,794 posts

205 months

Tuesday 17th July 2018
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Well, all I can say is, if you're looking for a 4C you need to be quick. It seems the lack of new cars has given the used market something of a boost.

A few of the ones I've had on my radar are gone. Two dealers have increased the prices of their cars and there's barely anything new to the market recently. Some of the cars listed don't actually exist at the dealers, they've sold and they've not removed the adverts so there's less than appears.

It might just be a small boost given the long summer on top of the recent 4C news - things could settle down once the temperature drops....but right now the market definitely seems on the up.

Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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If the black Spider with extra roof carbon is still for sale at London Morgan it needs snapping up as it looks a good price.

Rumour has it they've bought into a stock of 4C cars so may actually have more available and on offer?

Some dealer prices are still crazy. Why someone would price up a '65 18k coupe at £49.9k is beyond me?

Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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If the black Spider with extra roof carbon is still for sale at London Morgan it needs snapping up as it looks a good price.

Rumour has it they've bought into a stock of 4C cars so may actually have more available and on offer?

Some dealer prices are still crazy. Why someone would price up a '65 18k coupe at £49.9k is beyond me?

MattyB_

1,794 posts

205 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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The London Morgan one is sold too, as of this morning.

detee

502 posts

97 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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That was great looking car. Now I have had mine a couple of days, one of my observations is that the leather dash makes a huge difference to the interior.

I love the old school feel of it inside, then you remember it is a carbon tub. It is early days but so far I really like it.

Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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MattyB_ said:
The London Morgan one is sold too, as of this morning.
Not surprised in the least. That additional carbon to the roof hoop against black paint made it stand out.

T5GRF

1,499 posts

212 months

Wednesday 18th July 2018
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I'm on the look out for a yellow spider at the moment, from a value point of view, how much more desireable is a 50th anniversary car over a well specified "standard" car?
Anyone on on here looking to sell one, please pm me

Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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T5GRF said:
I'm on the look out for a yellow spider at the moment, from a value point of view, how much more desireable is a 50th anniversary car over a well specified "standard" car?
Anyone on on here looking to sell one, please pm me
I don't think there is any difference as I'm not aware the 50th cars offer any special enhancement? Even the LE cars don't seem to attract a premium judging by recent sales.

It might be worth calling London Morgan to see if there is any substance to the rumour they have 'bought' 20 cars to see if they have one to your spec.

Giallo Prototipo - Great colour.

detee

502 posts

97 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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I bought a 50th anniversary. Trying to find out what you get extra is quite difficult. I think basically they were 8K extra and you got 15K extra bits. A lot of carbon, leather dashboard.

There is a plaque inside as well, not sure if there is a premium or if they are worth it. My car was ex Alfa Romeo and was immaculate when I collected it. I wanted to pay a little less but we always do don't we.

The press seems to be rewriting history on these, I was reading Car magazine in the opticians yesterday and they seem to be now raving about the 4C.

The problem I think is that they always get compared to the Cayman, and the same old journalistic nonsense comes out, the Cayman does it all etc.

However what if you don't want it to do it all, you just want to have some exhilaration? If that is the case, the 4C may be for you.

_Superleggera_

1,950 posts

145 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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The Anniversary cars have all the right kit but you were restricted with a couple of options. Like you could only have black or red seats etc etc...

They don't particular command a premium as again it was just a marketing exercise. You could spec up a regular spider (like mine) to be an equally high spec. At the end of the day

This is slightly different to the LE Coupes in matte Carrara white however, as you couldn't order that on a normal coupe so that makes it a desirable car and one that will command a premium. I've got 3 with private owners that could be made available. smile They do look spectacular in that paint, but interestingly enough the rear air ducts are different on those cars. There is more black plastic further into the wing. Have a look at one up close if you get a chance.

Even rarer is to find a UK car with the Akrapovic exhaust of which I believe there are less than 10 in total.

Armitage.Shanks

747 posts

33 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Agree the centre Akropovic exhaust is the icing on the cake but as a £3k extra it's not cheap.

T5GRF

1,499 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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Thanks for the advice guys.
Took the plunge today and have bought a 17 plate, 3k mile car in Gialilo Prototipo, black leather, yellow stitching, leather dash, carbon binnacle, carbon lateral air intakes, cruise, Bluetooth audio, racing exhaust, tyres and suspension, 5 hole 18/19 inch wheels dark finish, paint protection film, aircon and tyre pressure monitor. I've added an additional 3 years Alfa warranty and a nice indoor cover to treat myself for my forthcoming 50th birthday..
The car is being supplied direct by Alfa Romeo U.K. to the dealer, so I'm buying it "blind" but hopefully it'll be pretty much as new..
I'm Very excited, it's replacing a Giallo Fly yellow Griff 500 so it has a lot to live up to!
Could I ask if it's possible to switch off the passenger airbag as I often have my daughter in the car with me?
Is it worth hard wiring in a trickle charger given the car will probably sit in my garage over winter?
Cheers!

T5GRF

1,499 posts

212 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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I forgot to mention that if anyone is thinking of buying a 4c and you're anywhere near Jaime Porters worship in Royston, blag yourself a passenger ride in his "slightly" modified 4c coupe. I did yesterday lunchtime, I bought a 4c Spider lunchtime today. I'm still shaking from the brief passenger ride-I'm the worlds worst passenger but came away deeply impressed. He's also.a top guy and spent lots of time talking to me about the 4c giving lots of excellent advice and showing me round his workshop which was full of all sorts of lovely cars! My car will be going straight in for his suspension blocks and intermediate road setup once it's collected next week.
It'll be nice to have a really good specialist so close by to look after the Alfa, I've been fortunate enough to have dealt with another excellent local specialist in the form of Bespoke performance over the last 12 years of TVR ownership too.

MellowshipSlinky

11,152 posts

137 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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18 months / 2 years ago I was very close to buying a madreperla / black leather inc dash car from GVE London.
Chickened out in the end as prices were still dropping, and bought a 350Sport Exige.

Wish I’d bought the 4C now, was a stunning looking thing and I’d certainly have one now.
Doesn’t seem to be many in that colour around at the moment (if any..!)

DamnKraut

318 posts

47 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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MellowshipSlinky said:
18 months / 2 years ago I was very close to buying a madreperla / black leather inc dash car from GVE London.
Chickened out in the end as prices were still dropping, and bought a 350Sport Exige.

Wish I’d bought the 4C now, was a stunning looking thing and I’d certainly have one now.
Doesn’t seem to be many in that colour around at the moment (if any..!)
Interesting. In my book the Exige would always rank before the 4C and that’s how they also currently sit on my list for next fun/ weekend car.

What leads you to rate the 4C higher?

is-uk

1,093 posts

164 months

Thursday 19th July 2018
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_Superleggera_ said:
This is slightly different to the LE Coupes in matte Carrara white however, as you couldn't order that on a normal coupe so that makes it a desirable car and one that will command a premium. I've got 3 with private owners that could be made available. smile They do look spectacular in that paint, but interestingly enough the rear air ducts are different on those cars. There is more black plastic further into the wing. Have a look at one up close if you get a chance.
It's actually a section of satin metallic black vinyl that is cut to a specific shape to give the impression of a larger area on the intake. I had never noticed that it was only fitted to the LE cars in Carrara white.