Discussion
I’ve got one - on one of the great lease deals you mentioned!
My first time leasing, not sure if I will again but that’s another topic/personal preference.
That aside though, the car is excellent.
Quick, looks great, can return high 30’s mpg on a run, comfortable interior, good spec. Only thing I would say is the boot isn’t great and the opening to the boot limits what you can get in there quite considerably. The rear seats fold which helps. It’s also pretty quiet and uneventful, which may be a positive, depending what you want the car for.
Had one issue with mine - the alarm randomly going off with no interference. Took it to Alfa after 8-9 occurrences, they reset it and it hasn’t happened since.
My first time leasing, not sure if I will again but that’s another topic/personal preference.
That aside though, the car is excellent.
Quick, looks great, can return high 30’s mpg on a run, comfortable interior, good spec. Only thing I would say is the boot isn’t great and the opening to the boot limits what you can get in there quite considerably. The rear seats fold which helps. It’s also pretty quiet and uneventful, which may be a positive, depending what you want the car for.
Had one issue with mine - the alarm randomly going off with no interference. Took it to Alfa after 8-9 occurrences, they reset it and it hasn’t happened since.
It depends what you want out of a car. The interior is nicely styled and very comfortable, the driving position is spot on.
The plastic quality is probably not as good as an Audi and the infotainment lags behind the class average. But it’s simply to use and does what you need.
The fact is, the Giulia is the best driving saloon on the planet, that’s what matters.
The plastic quality is probably not as good as an Audi and the infotainment lags behind the class average. But it’s simply to use and does what you need.
The fact is, the Giulia is the best driving saloon on the planet, that’s what matters.
I adore mine. Probably the only car I've ever had on a lease that I'm planning on keeping after the term is up (If the deal is right).
I've added a carbon boot spoiler which I think it really needs to finish off the look.
Handling is like nothing else I've owned and zero reliability issues in 10k miles.
I see non sport / veloce models around and the bigger wheels and different trim really make a difference to the look I think. Obviously, I would have preferred a QF, but this gives me about 75% of the car (The engine being the difference) at about 25% of the lease cost.
Still, it makes a nice noise and 280bhp is still plenty enough for my local roads.
euphoricmess said:
Love that colour. Sorry to see the damage though. Hope it's fixed.
Sadly the deal I got was on the red which is certainly a downer. What's the interior like. Read mixes reviews and thea4 I have 2016 is decent.
compared to the XE, I found the interior of the Alfa is a less interesting place to be, the seats not as comfortable, and the view out not as nice, and the perceived quality not as good... maybe that should be luxury rather than quality. The Jaguar felt more expensive inside.Sadly the deal I got was on the red which is certainly a downer. What's the interior like. Read mixes reviews and thea4 I have 2016 is decent.
Plus sides for the Alfa's interior were that it had a control for the infotainment - XE relies on mostly on the touch screen, it's easier to get in without bashing your head, the driving position is better, and the thinner steering wheel is nicer to hold.
To drive, I preferred the Alfa.... though if I was going to tour mainland Europe, I'd choose the Jaguar.
I can't compare either to the A4. I didn't try one.
Came here to start a thread about this car, a few questions answered here.
Wondered if people could share what kind of real world MPG you're getting with mixed driving and on longer runs? Driving sensibly versus aggressively?
I've currently got a 340i with the M performance power upgrade, was an ex demo so it's fully loaded with lots of toys which I got with substantial discount before new one came out, the 6c engine with the power pack is immense, it's effortlessly fast in any gear, from low revs right up to 7k, officially it's circa 370bhp but I suspect it's running more, as the performance seems quicker than stated. It makes an epic noise, if a little brash and loud in many situations.
The downsides are, the chassis is pretty terrible, it's set up to understeer, it doesn't really oversteer in a progressive or satisfying way, the damping is awful, in sports modes it is bumpy and skittish on country roads, whilst tram-lining on every bump but yet, it still sits too high and lerchers forwards under breaking and leans too much changing direction. Even in comfort and eco, it's still bobs about and crashes over bumps. There is zero steering feedback and although it does have a lot of grip, it doesn't inspire confidence on b-roads. I took it on Silverstone recently and that really exposed how bad it is. Again the grip levels were good, but it felt heavy, floaty and not very rewarding to drive, certainly not the ultimate driving machine. Although extremely quick on the straights and quicker than almost anything other than super-cars.
The main gripe, is that I'm doing quite a lot of miles and It's costing a lot to run and even though I bought with a heafty discount, it's depreciating like a bomb. I spent at least £100 a week on fuel with normal driving. If you put in sports mode and play with it, it's even worse.
Long (off topic) story short, it's currently worth about £500-1k over it's PCP settlement value and I have been considering getting out whilst I can into a cheaper lease deal to lower the monthly payments and fuel.
Looking at a few options, but saw the 280 with 15k annual mileage in low £300s, which is pretty good.
If running costs are reasonable, i'd seriously consider.
Got a test-drive arranged on Friday.
Wondered if people could share what kind of real world MPG you're getting with mixed driving and on longer runs? Driving sensibly versus aggressively?
I've currently got a 340i with the M performance power upgrade, was an ex demo so it's fully loaded with lots of toys which I got with substantial discount before new one came out, the 6c engine with the power pack is immense, it's effortlessly fast in any gear, from low revs right up to 7k, officially it's circa 370bhp but I suspect it's running more, as the performance seems quicker than stated. It makes an epic noise, if a little brash and loud in many situations.
The downsides are, the chassis is pretty terrible, it's set up to understeer, it doesn't really oversteer in a progressive or satisfying way, the damping is awful, in sports modes it is bumpy and skittish on country roads, whilst tram-lining on every bump but yet, it still sits too high and lerchers forwards under breaking and leans too much changing direction. Even in comfort and eco, it's still bobs about and crashes over bumps. There is zero steering feedback and although it does have a lot of grip, it doesn't inspire confidence on b-roads. I took it on Silverstone recently and that really exposed how bad it is. Again the grip levels were good, but it felt heavy, floaty and not very rewarding to drive, certainly not the ultimate driving machine. Although extremely quick on the straights and quicker than almost anything other than super-cars.
The main gripe, is that I'm doing quite a lot of miles and It's costing a lot to run and even though I bought with a heafty discount, it's depreciating like a bomb. I spent at least £100 a week on fuel with normal driving. If you put in sports mode and play with it, it's even worse.
Long (off topic) story short, it's currently worth about £500-1k over it's PCP settlement value and I have been considering getting out whilst I can into a cheaper lease deal to lower the monthly payments and fuel.
Looking at a few options, but saw the 280 with 15k annual mileage in low £300s, which is pretty good.
If running costs are reasonable, i'd seriously consider.
Got a test-drive arranged on Friday.
Edited by handbraketurn on Wednesday 26th June 04:44
MPG long term on mine is about 35mpg. On a long run using motorways it will return 40 easily.
Pushing it along on the back roads will bring it down to 25 ish.
The ride and handling is exemplary in my view, but to be fair you would not be doing much in the way of oversteering in a Giulia as the TC stamps it out quickly and you can’t turn it off. But it’s stil a superb machine to punt along. Where it will shine over the BM especially if you have an M Sport set up will be its ride quality, it’s in a different league. It gives you much more confidence and feedback. But you do have to work with that and understand it, the steering is almost telepathic, very direct and very responsive.
The low £300 deals will be 8k mileage or a big deposit. Alfa aren’t running the same level of discounts as the Germans at the moment, worth scouring the country for deals though as there is a big difference between the dealers.
Pushing it along on the back roads will bring it down to 25 ish.
The ride and handling is exemplary in my view, but to be fair you would not be doing much in the way of oversteering in a Giulia as the TC stamps it out quickly and you can’t turn it off. But it’s stil a superb machine to punt along. Where it will shine over the BM especially if you have an M Sport set up will be its ride quality, it’s in a different league. It gives you much more confidence and feedback. But you do have to work with that and understand it, the steering is almost telepathic, very direct and very responsive.
The low £300 deals will be 8k mileage or a big deposit. Alfa aren’t running the same level of discounts as the Germans at the moment, worth scouring the country for deals though as there is a big difference between the dealers.
velocemitch said:
MPG long term on mine is about 35mpg. On a long run using motorways it will return 40 easily.
Pushing it along on the back roads will bring it down to 25 ish.
The ride and handling is exemplary in my view, but to be fair you would not be doing much in the way of oversteering in a Giulia as the TC stamps it out quickly and you can’t turn it off. But it’s stil a superb machine to punt along. Where it will shine over the BM especially if you have an M Sport set up will be its ride quality, it’s in a different league. It gives you much more confidence and feedback. But you do have to work with that and understand it, the steering is almost telepathic, very direct and very responsive.
The low £300 deals will be 8k mileage or a big deposit. Alfa aren’t running the same level of discounts as the Germans at the moment, worth scouring the country for deals though as there is a big difference between the dealers.
Thanks, Mitch. That's very good economy given the power, significantly better than what I am getting. Pushing it along on the back roads will bring it down to 25 ish.
The ride and handling is exemplary in my view, but to be fair you would not be doing much in the way of oversteering in a Giulia as the TC stamps it out quickly and you can’t turn it off. But it’s stil a superb machine to punt along. Where it will shine over the BM especially if you have an M Sport set up will be its ride quality, it’s in a different league. It gives you much more confidence and feedback. But you do have to work with that and understand it, the steering is almost telepathic, very direct and very responsive.
The low £300 deals will be 8k mileage or a big deposit. Alfa aren’t running the same level of discounts as the Germans at the moment, worth scouring the country for deals though as there is a big difference between the dealers.
I read about the TC not being able to be turned off, that is an odd decision for a driver orientated car given how much people rate the general quality of the chassis, particularly with the performance pack, you'd expect the option to turn off to added in there. Perhaps they'll give an option to turn it off later in the product life cycle via the dealers.
To be fair, I think most BMW drivers (myself included) use Sports+ most of the time on the road, which allows you a bit of play but kicks in if you get too carried away.
I'm looking forwards to testing it.
With regards to the deals, I should have clarified, they were PCH not PCP deals I have been looking at. I've seen a few 0% APR deals on offer on PCP from different dealers, but as you say, little discount and requirement for a large deposit. In my view, there is no real guarantee you'll have any equity at the end and I have a suspicion there is a bubble in the car industry, especially with the volume manufacturers.
My car is a great example, I put £6k into the 340i, which had a list price of £52k in March last year, plus the £3.5k MPPSK fitted by me, I got it for £32k a year ago, which is a significant discount, just prior to the launch of the new model. 16 months after registration and 19k miles covered, it's currently valued at £23.5k, which is essentially the settlement figure.
It's also dropped in value dramatically since March new reg, I had a trade in offer of £26k then, now they're moaning about £23.5k, dealers telling me its happening across the industry. Good time to let the finance companies take the liability IMO.
PCH Example:
24 months term, 9 month deposit, 15k miles, £331 PCM.
https://leasing.com/independent-brokers/jet-vehicl...
Similar deals for 36 + 48 months, although, I'd rather be out and into something out after two years.
Its a lot cheaper for 10-12k miles, but I've done 17k in the past 12 months.
Edited by handbraketurn on Wednesday 26th June 16:02
Edited by handbraketurn on Wednesday 26th June 16:17
Yes mine is on PCH, it was certainly cheaper than the PCP options at the time, judging by a check I just did on the same website you are using, they have gone up slightly. But I seem to recall the deal I got was better than the generic websites. I used Carwow and went direct to a dealer, in my case Unity at Oxford, though many others found Beachdale at Derby to the best.
One thing t watch with the PCH which is usually through a company called Leasys ( FCA’s financial arm) is that any options, including metallic are costed simply by taking the list and dividing it by the payments, so they end up expensive. If you were specking a car up with lots of options, PCP sometimes worked out better. But as you know, you then take the risk with residuals. You are also right on the cusp of the 40k road tax cut off, which is an absolute pain. I don’t think you can even get metallic now without tripping over that.
It’s odd about the TC, lots of discussions about that on the forums and Facebook groups. I believe you can delve in to the software and disable it, but you loose ABS and lots of other stuff too and the dash turns 8nto a Christmas Tree. Typical of Alfa that they let you do it in a 510bhp QF but not any other Giulia.
One thing t watch with the PCH which is usually through a company called Leasys ( FCA’s financial arm) is that any options, including metallic are costed simply by taking the list and dividing it by the payments, so they end up expensive. If you were specking a car up with lots of options, PCP sometimes worked out better. But as you know, you then take the risk with residuals. You are also right on the cusp of the 40k road tax cut off, which is an absolute pain. I don’t think you can even get metallic now without tripping over that.
It’s odd about the TC, lots of discussions about that on the forums and Facebook groups. I believe you can delve in to the software and disable it, but you loose ABS and lots of other stuff too and the dash turns 8nto a Christmas Tree. Typical of Alfa that they let you do it in a 510bhp QF but not any other Giulia.
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