Would you buy an Integrale?

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anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 30th January 2023
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daviekiwi said:
Did you sell the Lancia? I seen one listed for sale that looks like yours?
Black 1992 16v at a sports car centre in deepest Norfolk? Yep, that's mine.

Bit of a backstory: I've also bought a 205 GTI that was too good to pass up, but I only have garage space for one car as I wouldn't want to leave either out on the driveway. The garage owner is a friend of a friend and he very kindly offered to store either car for me as he said they would be a great talking point for his clients as they enter the showroom.

We got chatting and I decided to sell it (and the 205 will be going shortly too). I love it BUT.... I never drive like it should be driven, so 90% of the time I'm pottering about in a 30 year old creaky car (albeit a stunning looking icon). It's wasted on me.

I'll regret it but I just don't have the time to enjoy them in the way they should be enjoyed. Been there, done that, time for somebody else to love it.

cirian75

4,260 posts

233 months

Wednesday 1st February 2023
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3 cars I could have bought but logic stopped me

Integrale Evo, but was rusty,

200sx, but meant a trip to Scotland and back from Warrington.

911 (964)

All were affordable at the time for sale, but I didn't, the 964 was a LHD and it was a £8k mates rate deal, still kick myself over that one

mallygreen

243 posts

190 months

Friday 24th February 2023
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The weathers looking almost good enough for the Deltas first run of the year!

https://youtu.be/BPgEMaQnoVQ


daviekiwi

Original Poster:

164 posts

205 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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mallygreen said:
The weathers looking almost good enough for the Deltas first run of the year!

https://youtu.be/BPgEMaQnoVQ

Looks stunning with the Martini livery Mally! Great background shot too.
Do you live in Skye?

rallye101

1,898 posts

197 months

Sunday 5th March 2023
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There was a nice red evo 1 at Silverstone auctions go for £31.5kish off the top of my head so still some that aren't crazy money..

mallygreen

243 posts

190 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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Do you live in Skye?
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Inverness Shire.

Snowman rally last weekend.




reddiesel

1,955 posts

47 months

Wednesday 8th March 2023
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In all my motoring life I was only aware of one Evo and for some reason I have never forgotten it . Owned by a Couple of Italian Lads in Bletchley who had inherited a Cafe from their Grandfather it was in Broom Yellow . This would be in the early nineties when I was running an Escort Cosworth and occasionally they would raise their hand as we passed on the road . Looking back now at what is an incredible 30 years ( I hadn't realised this ) the Cosworth was viewed then as the more modern design . Viewed today however I think its the Evo that has stood the test of time better ?

daviekiwi

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164 posts

205 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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reddiesel said:
In all my motoring life I was only aware of one Evo and for some reason I have never forgotten it . Owned by a Couple of Italian Lads in Bletchley who had inherited a Cafe from their Grandfather it was in Broom Yellow . This would be in the early nineties when I was running an Escort Cosworth and occasionally they would raise their hand as we passed on the road . Looking back now at what is an incredible 30 years ( I hadn't realised this ) the Cosworth was viewed then as the more modern design . Viewed today however I think its the Evo that has stood the test of time better ?
The Integrale has aged beautifully like a fine wine! The Escort cosworth doesnt look too shabby either!
Sometimes ultra modern car or home designs age faster! Georgian houses will always look good unlike the grand design glass eco boxes?
I am a German car guy, However Italian car design is streets ahead!
Just my opinion? Correct me if i'm wrong?

reddiesel

1,955 posts

47 months

Friday 10th March 2023
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No I think you are correct Davie and its not just confined to the Bodywork . Nobody for example can present an engine like Alfa Romeo even if reliability at times was patchy

daviekiwi

Original Poster:

164 posts

205 months

Friday 24th March 2023
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daviekiwi said:
Evening all, picked up integrale yesterday.
Happy days, its a hoot drive, didn't disappoint.
Looking forward to getting this bad boy out for a drive and detail soon!
Any other Integrale's in hibernation?

mallygreen

243 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/delta-b...

Also look out for The Late Brake Show on Youtube (out in a couple of weeks) with Jonny Smith, they were out in Holland filming at Maturo Cars




mallygreen

243 posts

190 months

Saturday 25th March 2023
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See what great Dario uses as his daily.


daviekiwi

Original Poster:

164 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd April 2023
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mallygreen said:
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/big-reads/delta-b...

Also look out for The Late Brake Show on Youtube (out in a couple of weeks) with Jonny Smith, they were out in Holland filming at Maturo Cars



I will have to check that out. Maturo car's Stradale looks amazing!
Seen a few articles recently in the media of their new car's in Octane and Evo magazine.
The Late brake show is also very good.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 10th April 2023
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daviekiwi said:
DrBrule said:
Will do, as soon as the rain stops! Keeps changing every 15 mins.
Did you sell the Lancia? I seen one listed for sale that looks like yours?
Bump. The 205 sold first so I’ve decided to keep the integrale. I’m not upset it didn’t find a buyer.

daviekiwi

Original Poster:

164 posts

205 months

Sunday 16th April 2023
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Close call I would say? your integrale looks like a stunner keep it!
Don't get me wrong a Pug 205 Gti is a great car but it is no integrale?
Watch the Late Brake Show with Maturo cars that will make you keep it.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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Apparently a very keen chap came up from London to view it with a mechanic friend. It was one of his dream cars, he loves them etc etc.

All was going well until he took it for a test drive. He hated it and is now sworn off ever owning one.

His expectations vs the reality were poles apart. I gather he thought it would be like a Group B rally car from the off, whereas it's actually a creaky old Italian shopping car that is now outclassed (at typical driving speeds) by anything else on the road bar a mobility scooter.

andy-integrale

413 posts

191 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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DrBrule said:
Apparently a very keen chap came up from London to view it with a mechanic friend. It was one of his dream cars, he loves them etc etc.

All was going well until he took it for a test drive. He hated it and is now sworn off ever owning one.

His expectations vs the reality were poles apart. I gather he thought it would be like a Group B rally car from the off, whereas it's actually a creaky old Italian shopping car that is now outclassed (at typical driving speeds) by anything else on the road bar a mobility scooter.
It's odd what people expect. The youngest ones are knocking on for 30 years old. I have had mine for 15 years. Has half the horsepower, pace and 1/3 of the interior build quality of my daily driver BUT I absolutely adore it as I don't judge it by modern standards but for what it is. Still enormous fun at sensible speeds and always makes me smile. I don't think you could judge on a short test drive either as mine really likes to be properly warmed through.

Harris_I

3,228 posts

259 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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Agree, odd. I still haven't driven a road car I enjoy more (on the road).

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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1/3 of the interior build quality of a modern car?

You got a good one then.

andy-integrale

413 posts

191 months

Wednesday 19th April 2023
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DrBrule said:
1/3 of the interior build quality of a modern car?

You got a good one then.
Must have. Unless you got a bad one! :-)