The Car Salesman's Thread

The Car Salesman's Thread

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Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Yeah, we love it when there's no sale. It makes our lives much easier. hehe

White-flaggers are nice, but there aren't enough of them to earn a living from...

LHD

17,000 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Zwolf said:
Yeah, we love it when there's no sale. It makes our lives much easier. hehe

White-flaggers are nice, but there aren't enough of them to earn a living from...
Nosebleeds.

They run into the deal so hard they get a nosebleed...

markmullen

15,877 posts

234 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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LHD said:
Zwolf said:
Yeah, we love it when there's no sale. It makes our lives much easier. hehe

White-flaggers are nice, but there aren't enough of them to earn a living from...
Nosebleeds.

They run into the deal so hard they get a nosebleed...
Who remembers the one weekend a year or so when the suicide bus appears to have arrived, every single customer is a white flagger with all products.

LHD

17,000 posts

187 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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markmullen said:
LHD said:
Zwolf said:
Yeah, we love it when there's no sale. It makes our lives much easier. hehe

White-flaggers are nice, but there aren't enough of them to earn a living from...
Nosebleeds.

They run into the deal so hard they get a nosebleed...
Who remembers the one weekend a year or so when the suicide bus appears to have arrived, every single customer is a white flagger with all products.
hehe

A much better bus than the 'Be-Back' one, it has to be said...

Deva Link

26,934 posts

245 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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AtticusFinch said:
yellowbentines said:
When picking up my last car the SM came over at handover, introduced himself, ran through the questionnaire he said I could expect via email, and asked if there was any reason I wouldn't be ticking the top box for each question/category - a good idea and I'd no problem with it, he said if there was any issues he'd rather he dealt with them there and then rather than him getting a call from head office the week later.

So, when I got the questionnaire of course I felt obliged to tick the top box for each!
Sounds like a Sytner script (It's called educating the customer and works)
I think that's fair enough - if sales people don't explain it to the customer how else can they know that they should start off at 'excellent' and only mark lower than that if there's been a specific issue?

The Mercedes service dept ratings are a bit of a scam - most dealers are over 90%+. The only question they rate on is whether you would recommend someone to use that dealership. Let's face it, they'd have to be pretty horrendous for a customer to say no.

Edited by Deva Link on Thursday 4th October 23:13

Robsti

12,241 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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What happens if you don't answer the questionnaires?

Blib

44,042 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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What happens if one doesn't get a questionnaire? I bought a car a couple of weeks ago. The salesman told me several times that I'd get one and that it was important for him that I mark it high. Since then, nada.

In fact, I'd completely forgotten about it until I read this thread.

Ari

19,347 posts

215 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Don't worry, it just means that they consider your opinion worthless. smile

Blib

44,042 posts

197 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Ari said:
Don't worry, it just means that they consider your opinion worthless. smile
hehe

Zwolf

25,867 posts

206 months

Thursday 4th October 2012
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Robsti said:
What happens if you don't answer the questionnaires?
It varies. Anywhere between further follow-up from the manufacturer to find out why you won't return it to nothing at all as only returned, completed questionnaires count.

Blib said:
What happens if one doesn't get a questionnaire? I bought a car a couple of weeks ago.
Not everybody always gets one, especially around peak registration times - i.e. March & September - as there's only so many they can process in a given period etc. Once they've sent out the number they can handle, allowing for non-returns etc., they'll stop sending them out and start processing returns.

It may follow on later on, or nothing at all will happen as the following month is a new month/quarter. Manufacturers vary in their approaches according to the resources they have at their disposal.

AtticusFinch

27,010 posts

183 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Robsti said:
What happens if you don't answer the questionnaires?
Generally a contract killer is employed wink



It all works on averages so not responding can be as bad as a poor score.

Remember you are marking the individual, if the brand/dealership screw up the salesman still takes it on the chin. Think about how they have handled problems and score accordingly

squeezebm

2,319 posts

205 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Recent experience with a merc dealer in say lincolnshire was a joke and the salesman was a lying turd (arent most) when they are not trying to speak in code,they are usually billy bullstting. We got what we wanted and the deal we wanted eventually ..... so we were happy. To then have see the salesman and his manager virtually grovel re the
survey was in itself laughable.

We decided not to fill it in and have been hounded by an outside agency ever since

do they have CS on the CS experience???


edo

16,699 posts

265 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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My (very large) employer (IT) uses a CS survey system called "Net promoter".

It isn't about high or low experience, it is about "would you recommend the company and its services and products to someone else?".

It is a lot more powerful if people pro-actively recommend your company than are just "happy".

They take the promoters and subtract the detractors, and you get a percentage.

It is also more about net improvement from quarter to quarter than outright score.

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Gary11 said:
750turbo said:
Absolutely, and this from a Renault Main Dealer!!!

Shocking.
Hence HPI have from this month introduced a scheme where by any insurance funded repair is listed on your HPI report with parts pictures and everything....Great 85% of all cars are now pogglers.
Just got a letter from HPI saying they've withdrawn crash data.

POORCARDEALER

8,524 posts

241 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Roo said:
Gary11 said:
750turbo said:
Absolutely, and this from a Renault Main Dealer!!!

Shocking.
Hence HPI have from this month introduced a scheme where by any insurance funded repair is listed on your HPI report with parts pictures and everything....Great 85% of all cars are now pogglers.
Just got a letter from HPI saying they've withdrawn crash data.
I should think so too, was another nail in the coffin.


Just got my letter, quote


"Although the withdrawal of crash data is regrettable, the interests of our customers accross the motor, insurance and finance industries must always remain at the heart of HPI and Audatex products and service".


For once, common sense provails

Edited by POORCARDEALER on Friday 5th October 11:20

Gary11

4,162 posts

201 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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POORCARDEALER said:
I should think so too, was another nail in the coffin.


Just got my letter, quote


"Although the withdrawal of crash data is regrettable, the interests of our customers accross the motor, insurance and finance industries must always remain at the heart of HPI and Audatex products and service".


For once, common sense provails

Edited by POORCARDEALER on Friday 5th October 11:20
Amen to that,
All we need now are some customers FIVE dealers on our strip are closing in the next month!

POORCARDEALER

8,524 posts

241 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Gary11 said:
POORCARDEALER said:
I should think so too, was another nail in the coffin.


Just got my letter, quote


"Although the withdrawal of crash data is regrettable, the interests of our customers accross the motor, insurance and finance industries must always remain at the heart of HPI and Audatex products and service".


For once, common sense provails

Edited by POORCARDEALER on Friday 5th October 11:20
Amen to that,
All we need now are some customers FIVE dealers on our strip are closing in the next month!
Franchised Gary?

Gary11

4,162 posts

201 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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POORCARDEALER said:
Franchised Gary?
1 franchise already gone,4 smaller independants though small long established (over 20yrs in some cases) lower volume sites just arent working on paper at present,auctions arent helping with the massive hikes in buyers fees.

Clivey

5,110 posts

204 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Reading this thread makes me glad I'm not a car salesman. - The CS bks is utterly bonkers.

Whenever I've bought a car, my mentality has been "I'm buying the car, not the salesman." - All I want is a good test drive (not this once around the block nonsense) to make sure the car's for me then a price. If the car's what I'm after, in the right condition and at the right price, it'll sell itself. If not then sorry but you won't be selling it to me.

All I want from the salesman is for them to be honest, give me a fair deal and make the buying process painless. In return I'll be polite, honest and not mess them about.

The last chap I dealt with did this and got the sale. - I did haggle, and yes he had to speak to his superior to authorise the deal, but because he was able to do that, he had it sold straight away.

helmutlaang

472 posts

159 months

Friday 5th October 2012
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Hi, would someone please be so kind as to give a very rough ballpark figure on my car as a trade on please?

2006 A6 140tdi S-line.108k will FSH,all Audi bar last one.

Very good condition and really well specced.

Thanks guys!
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