Tuscan V12

[JnP]

I'd love to see a Tuscan V12 pop up somewhere !

Before someone says something such as "its impossible".
The Tuscan has a 4L engine and can up to 4.5 thanks to Power.

Why not use a 5L V12 its small enough !

[jr6yam]

I've had the same dream!

The top half of two BMW K1600 bike engines with a slightly longer stroke gives 3.6L
bolt on a supercharger and Bob's yer muvvers bruvver

Easy peasey

[OleVix]

jr6yam said:

I've had the same dream!

The top half of two BMW K1600 bike engines with a slightly longer stroke gives 3.6L
bolt on a supercharger and Bob's yer muvvers bruvver

Easy peasey

[rev-erend]

Who makes this 5 litre V12 ?

[jr6yam]

rev-erend said:

Who makes this 5 litre V12 ?

BMW? or Jaaaaaaaaag

[JnP]

5L V12 was only an idea. Ferrari V12 are about 5.5, Mercs are 6L or 6.5L if I'm not mistaking, those are just examples.
TVR.eu offers a 6.2L V8, I guess you could probably fit any V12 in it then.

[Aussie John]

Don't forget that Toyota made one for their Toyota Century limo!

[rev-erend]

I dont see the point..

The existing TVR engine develop plent of power vs weight and use of the cars.

The V12 engine - is generally far too big, many are not even as powerful as the standard TVR engines
and those that are bhp rich are far too big and heavy for a sports car engine.

OK - if you want a 'GT' for a homologation wide as a bedroom race car ..

but it's a dinosaur.

With the price of fuel - sports cars have to evolve or die.

[rev-erend]

Aston did exactly that ..

[chuntington101]

Come on guys you need to think outside the box a bit more. There was a French guy that built a w12 using 3 1000cc cbr engines! He then went on to build a 2.0 ltr v16 (!!!!!) using 4 cdr 600 destroked to 500cc each.

So how about either a w12 using 3 hyabusa engine each stroked to 1500cc giving a total of 4.5 ltr or a v16 giving 6.0ltr??????

[cymtriks]

Google Callaway V16

Four bike engines in a V16 layout. This engine actually exists.

Reading this thread, I see I'm not the first person to see a BMW K1600 engine and think of a V12.

[GTRene]

or drop a Cadilac Cien (concept car) engine in it, it uses a nice 7.5L V12 with 750 hp Northstar?

doesn't look to heavy, and looks a bit like the All Melling engine?

[Slow M]

chuntington101 said:

Come on guys you need to think outside the box a bit more. There was a French guy that built a w12 using 3 1000cc cbr engines! He then went on to build a 2.0 ltr v16 (!!!!!) using 4 cdr 600 destroked to 500cc each.

So how about either a w12 using 3 hyabusa engine each stroked to 1500cc giving a total of 4.5 ltr or a v16 giving 6.0ltr??????

Good luck with finding the space for all of those main bearing caps, con-rod big ends, and counterweights. You'd end up with a hybrid of crankshaft/tardis.

Best,
B.

[Bluebottle]

GTRene said:

or drop a Cadilac Cien (concept car) engine in it, it uses a nice 7.5L V12 with 750 hp Northstar?

doesn't look to heavy, and looks a bit like the All Melling engine?

now that looks sweet and the headers look narrow enough too

[chuntington101]

Slow M said:

chuntington101 said:

Come on guys you need to think outside the box a bit more. There was a French guy that built a w12 using 3 1000cc cbr engines! He then went on to build a 2.0 ltr v16 (!!!!!) using 4 cdr 600 destroked to 500cc each.

So how about either a w12 using 3 hyabusa engine each stroked to 1500cc giving a total of 4.5 ltr or a v16 giving 6.0ltr??????

Good luck with finding the space for all of those main bearing caps, con-rod big ends, and counterweights. You'd end up with a hybrid of crankshaft/tardis.

Best,
B.

its already been done! There is a french guy that races in Off Road event. he used to run a W12 setup using R1 engine and now runs a V16 using 4 destroked R6 units (down to 500CC each)!

As for sice the V8's out there that use the Hyabusa engines are VERY small, as in smaller than a 2.0 Zetec engine!

[Slow M]

chuntington101 said:

Slow M said:

chuntington101 said:

Come on guys you need to think outside the box a bit more. There was a French guy that built a w12 using 3 1000cc cbr engines! He then went on to build a 2.0 ltr v16 (!!!!!) using 4 cdr 600 destroked to 500cc each.

So how about either a w12 using 3 hyabusa engine each stroked to 1500cc giving a total of 4.5 ltr or a v16 giving 6.0ltr??????

Good luck with finding the space for all of those main bearing caps, con-rod big ends, and counterweights. You'd end up with a hybrid of crankshaft/tardis.

Best,
B.

its already been done! There is a french guy that races in Off Road event. he used to run a W12 setup using R1 engine and now runs a V16 using 4 destroked R6 units (down to 500CC each)!

As for sice the V8's out there that use the Hyabusa engines are VERY small, as in smaller than a 2.0 Zetec engine!

I'd be interested to find out how much space for counterweights and main bearings/caps you're left with, when trying to develop a 'Busa engine into a W configuration. Suspect Frenchie selected engines that had fair bore spacing.

That nay saying out of the way, I do love the RST V8.

Best,
B.

[chuntington101]

Slow M said:

chuntington101 said:

Slow M said:

chuntington101 said:

Come on guys you need to think outside the box a bit more. There was a French guy that built a w12 using 3 1000cc cbr engines! He then went on to build a 2.0 ltr v16 (!!!!!) using 4 cdr 600 destroked to 500cc each.

So how about either a w12 using 3 hyabusa engine each stroked to 1500cc giving a total of 4.5 ltr or a v16 giving 6.0ltr??????

Good luck with finding the space for all of those main bearing caps, con-rod big ends, and counterweights. You'd end up with a hybrid of crankshaft/tardis.

Best,
B.

its already been done! There is a french guy that races in Off Road event. he used to run a W12 setup using R1 engine and now runs a V16 using 4 destroked R6 units (down to 500CC each)!

As for sice the V8's out there that use the Hyabusa engines are VERY small, as in smaller than a 2.0 Zetec engine!

I'd be interested to find out how much space for counterweights and main bearings/caps you're left with, when trying to develop a 'Busa engine into a W configuration. Suspect Frenchie selected engines that had fair bore spacing.

That nay saying out of the way, I do love the RST V8.

Best,
B.

Here is a link to the W9 engine project. http://www.atomracing.se/6M.html

That uses a 90mm bore spacing

Chris.

[PascalBuyens]

At one point I really did think of recreating a S12 engine...

[GasMunkey]

PascalBuyens said:

At one point I really did think of recreating a S12 engine...

Did the alarm clock spoil that?

[PascalBuyens]

GasMunkey said:

Did the alarm clock spoil that?

Nope. At the time my engine broke down, I thought about two options... BUt I was told even the other alternative (Chevy V8) wouldn't fit into the Tuscan chassis...

Pretty easy to understand I gave up looking into the S12 route as well, hearing that.

And yes, I made a wrong decision at the time listening to naysayers.