Schu has retired again

[Galileo]

Wanta996Gotta said:

CarbonM5 said:

7 times WDC

91 GP wins

66 Poles,one of which was at Monaco in an average car at 42 years old

Faster than 25 year old team mate Rosberg.

What a fluke!

We know all of this so WHY IS HE SO AVERAGE NOW!!!

FIA biase? Unlimited testing? Tyres? Cheating? If it was all down to the car then why has Rosberg whooped his ass since his return.

It might be something to do with his age?! He's running with a crowd nearly half his age, what did you think was going to happen?
That he'd still be competative well into his 50's? He's not superhuman. He's slowing down, as we all do.

[Alfanatic]

Wanta996Gotta said:

CarbonM5 said:

7 times WDC

91 GP wins

66 Poles,one of which was at Monaco in an average car at 42 years old

Faster than 25 year old team mate Rosberg.

What a fluke!

We know all of this so WHY IS HE SO AVERAGE NOW!!!

FIA biase? Unlimited testing? Tyres? Cheating? If it was all down to the car then why has Rosberg whooped his ass since his return.

Because he's getting on a bit perhaps? You do know he's the oldest driver to achieve a podium since 1970, right? You've asked this question before, dozens of times. And the answer has always been the same. You may not like or accept the answer, and that is fine by me, but you keep asking the same question over and over again as though you are expecting a different one, which is stupid.

[MocMocaMoc]

Notice recently he said 'yeah, as a sporting endeavour it hasn't gone to plan'?

But as a financial endeavour?

Haway, fellas. They've been raking it in, and that's the point of F1. It's a business and we're not teenagers following our favourite wrestler 'losing' matches - so leave the man be.

[Munter]

Interesting tweet from Taki Inoue:
Taki Inoue @takiinoue

The greatest racing driver of this century announced his retirement, but the sh*test one haven't announced his retirement yet for 17 years.

So who is he referring to as not being the best?

[decadence]

Bedazzled said:

I think we've now got a much better understanding of Schuey's capabilities relative to his peers, without the advantages he enjoyed in the noughties. Maybe age has overtaken him too, but contrast his obscene reaction when DC drove into the back of him at Spa, to the handshake of Jean-Eric Vergne after Schuey's specsavers moment in Singapore. He's had his moment and latterly served his penance; time to move on.

It was worse! IIRC Schumy drove into the back of DC!! And still went to go fight him??!! Go figure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeAuQ2Xem4Q

[coetzeeh]

Wanta996Gotta said:

He was rumoured to be getting paid 15 Million a year to win races and develop the car. He has done neither but harm his legacy and cost Mercedes millions in his wages and re-building the cars he has trashed.

You clearly don't grasp the mechanics of the commercial world particularly well.

Merc paid MS £15m+ per year because of his drivers skill - but more importantly, MS brings unprecedented marketing presence to Merc which can not be bought for £15m.

To put £15m into perspective, the company I work for paid Uma Thurman that kind of money for a short series of TV ads a few years ago.

[Mr_Thyroid]

doogz said:

"I'm not doing a Fernando-beating thing," Coulthard said.

I don't know what this means.....anyone?

[anonymous-user]

doogz said:

decadence said:

It was worse! IIRC Schumy drove into the back of DC!! And still went to go fight him??!! Go figure!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TeAuQ2Xem4Q

"I'm not doing a Fernando-beating thing," Coulthard said. "But I realised on reflection ... when Michael ran into the back of me, his reaction was that I'd brake tested him or tried to kill him and all that sort of thing.

"The stewards looked at the data and I hadn't braked, so it was just all brushed under the carpet. The reality is that I lifted to let him pass me, but I lifted in heavy spray on the racing line. You should never do that. I would never do that now.

"In 1998, I didn't have the experience and the knowledge, and I had never had someone run into the back of me.

"The minute I knew he was there, and I was told by the team that he was and was trying to allow him to pass me, I should have made a smarter decision."

From David Coulthards mouth.

They were both in the wrong in that one tbh.

I wouldn't bother trying to be objective with the likes of Wanna old Porsche and Cideracerbic posting on here.

One seems to be a myopic McLaren fan who can't get over the fact that they haven't had a WDC for well over a decade and few WDCs to boot (To be fair I can understand the resentment of Schumacher, who played a big part in that) and the other just seems morbidly obsessed with the success of Schumacher per se.

[IainT]

robmlufc said:

WEC and Le Mans hopefully.

That would be cool wouldn't it? What about DTM?

[m444ttb]

I only became a Schumacher fan when he joined Ferrari. While I was watching F1 for years before 1996 (when I was 14) this really was the start of F1 becoming a bigger deal for me as I grew to understand it more. MSC was, and always will be a sporting hero for me. When he retired in 2006 I was genuinely gutted I'd never see him race in a Ferrari again. Despite it being with Merc I was really excited by his come back. With hindsight I, along with many others, expected far too much. While there have been some good moments and it hasn't taken the shine off his first career I can't feel that shocked or saddened that he's going. The one thing I think is hard to deny is that he added something to the show. He gave us something to talk about (sometimes over and over and over) these past 3 seasons. Anything and anyone that does that for the sport is something to be thankful for.

Coming back to his first career I can't see why the last 3 seasons diminish it. He may have had the best of everything at Ferrari, but there's a good reason for that. He headed a very strong team (yes inknow Jean Todt was the boss!) that made it happen for themselves. They were masters of their destiny. However none of this would have worked without a driver at MSC's level behind the wheel. If you can't watch some of his performances and understand what he did then you need to find another sport.

[Jasandjules]

No matter what way you look at it, he is an awesome driver and dominated F1 for years.

[superkartracer]

Jasandjules said:

No matter what way you look at it, he is an awesome driver and dominated F1 for years.

And remembered forever unlike the pointless on this thread

[CiderwithCerbie]

superkartracer said:

And remembered forever unlike the pointless on this thread

OK you don't like what we have to say so read Sir Jackie and the bits between the lines at the beginning of and the end of his piece on the Beeb, plus what he reports as the F1 communities thinking. I am in total agreement with what he has written, however he has diplomatically/legally avoided getting into the issues of Scumacher's bad driving and lack of Sportsmanship shown from when he was in karts to when he nealy killed Rubens that will also ALWAYS be remembered, not least because it is all captured on digital video;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19834309

[thunderbelmont]

He's retired from F1. Didn't mention racing otherwise.
Have a few weeks off over winter and have a go at this - then your credibility in many peoples eyes will be dramatically improved.


Or he could become the German answer to Jean Gerard and go here...



I vill beat you Ricky Bobby you yankee schweinehund!

[SeeFive]

CiderwithCerbie said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19834309

Indeed. But one thing I have never heard from Michael is the level of arrogance that JYS has always spouted and has managed to do once again in that piece. There was absolutely no need for him to compare MS records with his average.

[FloppyRaccoon]

Munter said:

Interesting tweet from Taki Inoue:
Taki Inoue @takiinoue

The greatest racing driver of this century announced his retirement, but the sh*test one haven't announced his retirement yet for 17 years.

So who is he referring to as not being the best?

Probably himself, he's been making fun of himself on Twitter recently. Little bit odd really.

eg....

"Some people want to compare me and Mr.Ide. But I don't like it. Believe me! I'm far Sh#tter than him by miles away! No one competes with me!"

"#bbcf1 is showing greatest drivers countdown. Is it possible to do sh*test drivers countdown as well? I'm confident to get in top 10 easily."

[mchammer89]

CiderwithCerbie said:

OK you don't like what we have to say so read Sir Jackie and the bits between the lines at the beginning of and the end of his piece on the Beeb, plus what he reports as the F1 communities thinking. I am in total agreement with what he has written, however he has diplomatically/legally avoided getting into the issues of Scumacher's bad driving and lack of Sportsmanship shown from when he was in karts to when he nealy killed Rubens that will also ALWAYS be remembered, not least because it is all captured on digital video;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/19834309

...nearly kill Rubens? What? When?

[CiderwithCerbie]

mchammer89 said:

...nearly kill Rubens? What? When?

Hungary 2010

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/schumacher-t...
http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2010/08/schumacherba...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/motorsport/formula...

[Life Saab Itch]

[Munter]

FloppyRaccoon said:

Probably himself, he's been making fun of himself on Twitter recently. Little bit odd really.

eg....

"Some people want to compare me and Mr.Ide. But I don't like it. Believe me! I'm far Sh#tter than him by miles away! No one competes with me!"

"#bbcf1 is showing greatest drivers countdown. Is it possible to do sh*test drivers countdown as well? I'm confident to get in top 10 easily."

Ah. I see. In that context it makes a bit more sense. I thought he was having a pop at a current driver. Doh!