RE: Loeb wins ninth - and last - WRC title

RE: Loeb wins ninth - and last - WRC title

Monday 8th October 2012

Loeb wins ninth - and last - WRC title

Schumacher's off (again) but Loeb's still winning and quits frontline WRC on a high with another title



In winning a ninth consecutive World Rally Championship title, Sebastien Loeb proved very little indeed. We already knew he was the most successful driver of all time; a ninth crown simply makes the likelihood of his records ever tumbling all the more remote.

Novelty still hasn't worn off
Novelty still hasn't worn off
We have to look beyond rallying before we find any significance in his ninth title. Valentino Rossi currently boasts nine championships to his credit; if we include Loeb’s Junior World Rally Championship crown from 2001 (which is fair given that two of Rossi’s titles were achieved in feeder categories) the diminutive Frenchman can be adjudged to be motorsport’s most successful competitor.

Loeb won his home round of the WRC – Rallye de France – in typically assured fashion. Although the winning margin over Ford’s Jari-Matti Latvala was only 15.5 seconds, one does feel that Loeb managed the advantage and pushed only as hard as was necessary. Citroen team-mate Mikko Hirvonen finished in third position to help his team claim its eighth constructors’ title, while the familiarly impressive Thierry Neuville finished in fourth.

Can anybody catch Loeb? Seems not
Can anybody catch Loeb? Seems not
Much more significant than this being Loeb’s ninth title is that it’ll almost certainly be his last. The 38-year-old – who bleeds hydropneumatic suspension fluid if you cut him – announced a few days before the rally that he’ll only contest a part campaign next season. “I have to admit that I am a little tired of the schedule imposed by the World Rally Championship,” he said, ruling out a 2013 title bid. “I still love driving and winning. I'll still be around in 2013, but not as consistently as now, competing at rallies that I like and which are important for Citroen. I couldn’t not include Rallye Monte Carlo in my diary.”

Loeb will instead focus his energies on a World Touring Car Championship campaign – still with Citroen  – and we eagerly await further details of what promises to be an intriguing switch of discipline.

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ALBA MELV

Original Poster:

387 posts

156 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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More teams and no Loeb should bring a more varied 2013 WRC season.

It will be good to see how Loeb gets on with another dicipline. He's got to be one of the best tarmac rally drivers of his generation.

alexpa

644 posts

172 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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I remember the way he 'won' the monte in his debut season, before being DQ'd on a technicality. Reminded me of Ayrton at Monaco in '84. Sure fire future stars both of them, and so they more than proved.

BlackCup

1,232 posts

183 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Loeb in touring cars? Sounds amazing!

Krikkit

26,513 posts

181 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Unbelievable record, shame I didn't catch a single bit of it this season! WRC desperately needs more accessible airtime, especially now the winner might not be Loeb all the time.

Trophybloo

1,207 posts

187 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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ALBA MELV said:
More teams and no Loeb should bring a more varied 2013 WRC season.

It will be good to see how Loeb gets on with another dicipline. He's got to be one of the best tarmac rally drivers of his generation.
..of his generation, not one of the best - simply THE BEST. (with apologies to Tina Turner).
Just look at the number of wins in Spain, Germany, France and the Monte compared to the rest for the last 10 years. 29 / 39 rallies 2002-2012 (to date)
Do the stats from 2004 and he is even more dominant.

garypotter

1,498 posts

150 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Absolute star, glad he' is not hanging up the gloves for good ans will still be
taking part. I wish him luck and well in the WTC.


m8rky

2,090 posts

159 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Just a truly amazing driver.I think the outstanding thing being apart from his sublime talent is his loyalty to one Manufacturer.
Definately my all time favourite driver,sadly his God like status in Europe has not really reached these shores.

flattotheboards

6,681 posts

206 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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You have to hand it to him; he has absolutely annihilated the previous records set. It should really be 10 titles rather than 9 however the year before his first, Citroen gave Loeb strict orders not to push too hard to ensure they won the manufacturers championship then once they realised they had been too cautious Loeb was too far away from Solberg to get the championship back IIRC. Still 9 world championships isn’t too shabby!

It will be great to see how he gets on in different types of motorsport; WTCC, LMP’s etc along with how the WRC will change without him competing for the overall title.

Long may his success continue!

Reardy Mister

13,757 posts

222 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Its arguably more difficult to win 125cc and 250cc world titles than 500, MotoGP 990 and especially 800cc WCs.

I dont see the smaller capacity bikes as diminishing the achievement of the world title at all.

I also wish Loeb had won more often against tougher competition in a less dominant car. Though again, 9 WRC titles is kind of a big deal in any case.

bluerainer101

38 posts

145 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Anyone know what his record it like at the annual race of champions?

m8rky

2,090 posts

159 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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bluerainer101 said:
Anyone know what his record it like at the annual race of champions?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_of_Champions

Pretty good I would say.

D.no

706 posts

212 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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"We have to look beyond rallying before we find any significance in his ninth title. Valentino Rossi currently boasts nine championships to his credit; if we include Loeb’s Junior World Rally Championship crown from 2001 (which is fair given that two of Rossi’s titles were achieved in feeder categories) the diminutive Frenchman can be adjudged to be motorsport’s most successful competitor."

What about Dougie Lampkin - 12 times World trials champion? Not as high profile maybe, but no less a feat of dedication, commitment, and shear talent.

tommy vercetti

11,487 posts

163 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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What a man

ArnageWRC

2,063 posts

159 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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The end of an era. A quite staggering record – as is his consistency. Simply remarkable. I don’t think he gets the recognition he deserves.
Sadly, Autosport & Motorsport aren’t leading with his 9th Title – I’m sorry, but winning a 9th WRC overshadows a Vettel GP win.
I really hope he gives WTCC a miss – a second division world series – and does more LMP/GT racing. His 2ns place at Le Mans is an indication of what he could do.

AyBee

10,533 posts

202 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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So the rally schedule is taking its toll and instead he's doing a part rally/full touring car season? confused

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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He might have won nine but for how many of those was it a one horse race? With a tiny field etc?

stephen300o

15,464 posts

228 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Would have been amazing if Loeb was about when rallying was at it's height.

400SE Dave

1,296 posts

171 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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Clearly a talented guy and deserves the plaudits however WRC is really not interesting any longer and since it has gone to pay TV I guess even less so to many.

Bring back Group B

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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400SE Dave said:
Clearly a talented guy and deserves the plaudits however WRC is really not interesting any longer and since it has gone to pay TV I guess even less so to many.

Bring back Group B
Here we go...
Modern WRC are faster than Group B cars.

jason61c

5,978 posts

174 months

Monday 8th October 2012
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PSBuckshot said:
Here we go...
Modern WRC are faster than Group B cars.
They may be but they lack the drama and relative free-form engineering.