Mega miles GT3

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Dblue

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2,885 posts

139 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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http://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/stock/6895168-...

What is the opinion about huge mileage in a GT3. I've always regarded the UKs obsession with mileage as a bad thing but nearly 150,000 miles is amazing in a clubsport GT3 in 9 years. Still only 16500 a year though, wouldn't be too perturbed if that was in a Merc or BMW.

Does anyone know this car?



PistonBroker

1,622 posts

165 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Wow, that is cheap!

I'd have no qualms about getting into that. Lovely looking thing, well cared for by the looks of it, and no issues with using it as Ferdy intended as it's already got a load of miles up it.

Magic919

14,126 posts

140 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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There was a 996 GT3 on 180,000 a couple of years ago. That changed hands ok.

Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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^

Same owner. Uses it as his daily, religiously serviced (not tracked either IIRC)

Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Dblue said:
http://www.alexandersprestige.co.uk/stock/6895168-...

What is the opinion about huge mileage in a GT3. I've always regarded the UKs obsession with mileage as a bad thing but nearly 150,000 miles is amazing in a clubsport GT3 in 9 years. Still only 16500 a year though, wouldn't be too perturbed if that was in a Merc or BMW.

Does anyone know this car?
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mm450exc

537 posts

117 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Get it!

The Mezger is super strong. A fully serviceable racing block. Even if you would need to rebuild the engine and change a few other bits it be still cheap. Perfect base for a track weapon build!

Fulla

336 posts

154 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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I remember that 996, it was the same colour as well. I believe the guy works across Europe hence the miles.
Was it 911Virgin that sold it?

As an owner of 2 cars north of 100k (165k and 120k) I would say as long as they are looked after and serviced on the button as this has then the mileage shouldn't matter. Buy on condition is our mantra right? :-)


Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Fulla said:
I remember that 996, it was the same colour as well. I believe the guy works across Europe hence the miles.
Was it 911Virgin that sold it?
Sold by Virgin, It was Cobalt blue smile

hondansx

3,299 posts

164 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Well, i'd be hoping it would be like Trigger's broom given this is still hardly a cheap car.

Don't care about the Mezger lasts forever balls - i'd expect a top end rebuild to have been done, perhaps twice on that mileage! Likewise, you'd hope all the suspension has been overhauled within the last 30,000 miles otherwise they are going to be suddenly draining your wallet.

cypriot

238 posts

38 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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those PCCB would scare me... cost of replacement would be eye watering!

Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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cypriot said:
those PCCB would scare me... cost of replacement would be eye watering!
If you take them on track, yes you'd probably kill them off in no time at all, for road use, I'd wager there's a good few miles left in them yet.
If all else fails, go with steels, or if you want the ultimate, fit a set of Surface Transforms replacements that'll last another 200k miles of road use.


Edited by Slippydiff on Monday 23 January 17:47

Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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hondansx said:
Well, i'd be hoping it would be like Trigger's broom given this is still hardly a cheap car. Don't care about the Mezger lasts forever balls - i'd expect a top end rebuild to have been done, perhaps twice on that mileage!
Tough audience smile

With a Mezger used hard mostly on track and revved to 8200 all the time, I'd agree, but road use on what I would suspect were long journeys, that would be less telling on the valve train and engine components generally IMO.

hondansx said:
Likewise, you'd hope all the suspension has been overhauled within the last 30,000 miles otherwise they are going to be suddenly draining your wallet.
The magnetorheological dampers aren't that expensive IIRC. I'm not sure if Bilstein UK can refurbish them ? (I'm sure someone will chip in and confirm one way or t'other) all the other stuff is no different to any other high miles 911. The bearings for the strut top mounts are available separately IIRC, OE ARB drop links are a bit lumpy cost wise, but there are several other (cheaper/better) options available.

Coffin arm inner bushes can be refurbed with Tarrret or Elephant Racing/BBI spherical joint insert kits. Sure, if all the coffin arm outer balljoints are toast, you'll need to dig a little deeper (but that's the perfect excuse to upgrade to RSS/Tarrett/Elephant coffin arms) smile



joinery80

138 posts

61 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Well it certainly looks tidy and looked after.it is probably worth taking a punt on

Wilmslowboy

2,433 posts

145 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Great looking and good too see one well used.

Interesting to see it's still warranted by Porsche at that mileage and being serviced by independents.

996GT2

2,649 posts

149 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Fair play to whoever owned that, living the dream.


Is there a much better looking 911 profile than this? yum


Steve Rance

4,896 posts

170 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Slippydiff said:
The magnetorheological dampers aren't that expensive IIRC. I'm not sure if Bilstein UK can refurbish them ? (I'm sure someone will chip in and confirm one way or t'other) all the other stuff is no different to any other high miles 911. The bearings for the strut top mounts are available separately IIRC, OE ARB drop links are a bit lumpy cost wise, but there are several other (cheaper/better) options available.

Coffin arm inner bushes can be refurbed with Tarrret or Elephant Racing/BBI spherical joint insert kits. Sure, if all the coffin arm outer balljoints are toast, you'll need to dig a little deeper (but that's the perfect excuse to upgrade to RSS/Tarrett/Elephant coffin arms) smile
I'd agree with all of this. The engines are surprisingly in expensive to rebuild and there are many suspension upgrades that are better and cheape than the OEM items. Great opportunity to produce a stunning car at an affordable price. Very best wishes and congratulations to the new owner. If it was as good as described, I'd have happily bought it for a DD

isaldiri

4,355 posts

107 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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Slippydiff said:
The magnetorheological dampers aren't that expensive IIRC. I'm not sure if Bilstein UK can refurbish them ? (I'm sure someone will chip in and confirm one way or t'other) all the other stuff is no different to any other high miles 911. The bearings for the strut top mounts are available separately IIRC, OE ARB drop links are a bit lumpy cost wise, but there are several other (cheaper/better) options available.
Without wanting to be overly pedantic, the PASM unit isn't a magride damper i thought like the GM one used by various manufacturers?

g7jhp

5,921 posts

177 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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£54,995 for a 2007(57) Black Clubsport with 141,418 miles.

Or

£80,000 for 2007 Comfort with 30k miles


So £25,000 with 110,000 miles less.

It's Reserved anyway, so hope someone has got into a 997 GT3 they can enjoy!

Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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isaldiri said:
Without wanting to be overly pedantic, the PASM unit isn't a magride damper i thought like the GM one used by various manufacturers?
Not pedantic at all smile And you are completely right, a bit of digging on Google indicates the 997 GT3 PASM dampers aren't magnetorheological (so no fancy oils with iron filings in it) they're merely a standard damper with an electronically controlled valve to enable different damping rates (via differing oil flow through a bypass valve).
Explains why they're relatively "cheap", and should be rebuildable by Bilstein UK.
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Slippydiff

10,157 posts

162 months

Monday 23rd January 2017
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g7jhp said:
£54,995 for a 2007(57) Black Clubsport with 141,418 miles.

Or

£80,000 for 2007 Comfort with 30k miles
On the face of it the lower mileage car looks the pragmatic choice, but if you've only got £55k (or can only raise finance to the tune of £55k) you won't be considering an £80k car.