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I have an E13 Torx bolt that I can't get off my Porsche 997 C2S. The location of the bolt means it's impossible to get a socket on, even if I had the right socket. The bolt has started to round off through a couple of attempts with roughly the right size spanner, so I don't really want to try that any more! Heat, I haven't tried too much, but I can't get a grip on the damn thing regardless. Anyone got any tips/ideas/suggestions? I'll post a picture of the location later.
If not, I'll just have to cut it off and replace it later. I can't even figure out what the hell the point of the damn thing is.
If not, I'll just have to cut it off and replace it later. I can't even figure out what the hell the point of the damn thing is.
ChocolateFrog said:
CoolC said:
Neither of those sets have the right size. I believe a spanner would get in there but I'm not convinced an E13 spanner exists in this universeHere are the pictures.
As for sizing, it's somewhere between 8 and 9mm in diameter. I believe it to be E13 but I could be wrong on that. Looks to me like M13 would be about a 16mm head which is definitely not the case
A guy in the states doing the same job couldn't find the correct wrench either. But he reckoned he used a 10mm box spanner... No chance of that here.
Haven't ever been able to find definitive info on what the actual size is, but haven't checked parts diagrams yet
M138 said:
Plenty of Plusgas, and a tap on the top with a hammer and centre punch to try and help to break the seal. My mate working on a V8 Cayenne at the moment thinks they must ve used Loctite (or similar) on the bolts on his engine.
If all else fails you may be able to tap it round with a slotted screwdriver and a hammer, but it s the last resort.
Will there be enough clearance from the plate above still on to remove that bolt?
I'm not intending to remove it completely, just enough to be able to pull the plate forward to give enough room to drop the water pump out. It's a good point though If all else fails you may be able to tap it round with a slotted screwdriver and a hammer, but it s the last resort.
Will there be enough clearance from the plate above still on to remove that bolt?
Pica-Pica said:
From the pictures it looks like a mole wrench will easily lock onto that.
My neighbour lent me some and they're too wide to get in behind the plate. Not sure of the exact dimensions of the gap but I assume the mole grips come in different shaped "noses". I've spent enough on random tools at this point though so I want to be triple sure before buying another on the off chance it will work! I think removing the plate on the front might be the way, but unfortunately as you can see, those are rusted to hell as well.
So, an update and a bit of an embarrassing one... it appears to be an E11
At least, that's the socket I managed to get it off with. I managed to lift the exhaust just enough with a jack (without overdoing it and hoiking the whole car up) and got the exhaust bracket off with an E12, which gave me pause as the circled bolt is clearly smaller than those. Once that bracket was off, the bolt came out relatively easily and I could proceed with the job, which was the water pump and thermostat replacement.
Interestingly, the parts diagrams I can find on design911 don't list any of these and in fact refer to the E12s that I've taken off as "hexagon head bolts", which they definitely aren't! Maybe they got updated?
Anyway, one of the water pump bolts sheared as I was putting the new one on
So I'm going to have to order new hardware anyway (was surprised the new pump didn't come with bolts). Tempted to order those ones and see what turns up. The current ones are in a bit of a state.
Is there anything I can put on new bolts that prevents rust? In case the exhaust has to come off again in future?
At least, that's the socket I managed to get it off with. I managed to lift the exhaust just enough with a jack (without overdoing it and hoiking the whole car up) and got the exhaust bracket off with an E12, which gave me pause as the circled bolt is clearly smaller than those. Once that bracket was off, the bolt came out relatively easily and I could proceed with the job, which was the water pump and thermostat replacement.
Interestingly, the parts diagrams I can find on design911 don't list any of these and in fact refer to the E12s that I've taken off as "hexagon head bolts", which they definitely aren't! Maybe they got updated?
Anyway, one of the water pump bolts sheared as I was putting the new one on
So I'm going to have to order new hardware anyway (was surprised the new pump didn't come with bolts). Tempted to order those ones and see what turns up. The current ones are in a bit of a state. Is there anything I can put on new bolts that prevents rust? In case the exhaust has to come off again in future?
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