Sebastian Vettel
Discussion
Taken from Vettel's homepage
First of all, I think that today the car was very good. The pace was strong in the race. I think you could see that we were losing a bit here and there, but overall it was a good race. It was a very busy start, and Vallteri was very aggressive. As for what happened at the restart from the safety car, I don’t know why I got the penalty and Lewis didn’t. It’s disappointing, because it could have been a better result. I don’t have a problem with Lewis but I just think that what he did on the track was not ok. By now the decision is done but, in an episode like this one, I still think that if you give out a penalty, then it should be to both drivers.
Clearly there is going to be more issues during the year between Vettel and Hamilton.
First of all, I think that today the car was very good. The pace was strong in the race. I think you could see that we were losing a bit here and there, but overall it was a good race. It was a very busy start, and Vallteri was very aggressive. As for what happened at the restart from the safety car, I don’t know why I got the penalty and Lewis didn’t. It’s disappointing, because it could have been a better result. I don’t have a problem with Lewis but I just think that what he did on the track was not ok. By now the decision is done but, in an episode like this one, I still think that if you give out a penalty, then it should be to both drivers.
Clearly there is going to be more issues during the year between Vettel and Hamilton.
Are we all getting a bit too PC??
Yes what Vettel did was out of order but is it not a case of just too much passion?
Piquet hitting Salazar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iTUa0J8Kzw
James Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpZnE7gj0gY
Yes what Vettel did was out of order but is it not a case of just too much passion?
Piquet hitting Salazar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iTUa0J8Kzw
James Hunt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpZnE7gj0gY
Talking about Jean Todt I was delighted when he became the FIA president.
Just look at what the guy has been involved in. Group B rallying and the Ferrari F1 team.
I really thought things under him would be fantastic and he might just be able to make a huge change.
How wrong could I have been.
How many F1 events do you actually see him at?
Just a job for the boys. He should be sacked.
Just look at what the guy has been involved in. Group B rallying and the Ferrari F1 team.
I really thought things under him would be fantastic and he might just be able to make a huge change.
How wrong could I have been.
How many F1 events do you actually see him at?
Just a job for the boys. He should be sacked.
jm doc said:
Vettel should have his licence suspended and be made to undertake anger management training. He should not get it back until he can demonstrate that he can control himself. The FIA will leave themselves wide open if they fail to act on such an open and shut case of loss of self control in such a dangerous sport and something serious occurs at a later date.
The fact that he appears to be in complete denial of the event is in my opinion very significant and highlights the seriousness of his problem.
The fact that he appears to be in complete denial of the event is in my opinion very significant and highlights the seriousness of his problem.
'such a dangerous sport'. Really?
Whatever, if the FIA do as you suggest they might as well hand Hamilton the WC now. The season will be over.
velocgee said:
Vettel banged tyres, which act as part of the suspension and therefore are able to take knocks (to a degree) hence why they are able to brush walls. So don't believe it was a dangerous as some are making out.
The tyres aren't the important bit, it's the carbon fibre suspension and steering that's attached to them. They're not designed to be loaded from that direction to that degree and are therefore susceptible to failures when they are.Either or both only avoided a DNF due to luck rather than anything else.
KevinCamaroSS said:
The difference between Vettel and Alonso as drivers is that Vettel needs a car to be 'just so' whereas Alonso can drive any type of car to it's limits (or above). SV's last year at Red Bull shows this perfectly.
I am sure if Alonso was in the Ferrari in 2017 he would be doing a better job than Vettel.Vettel is not the driver Alonso is. In fact I doubt anyone on the grid is when it comes to the full package.
sparta6 said:
Doink said:
Anyone that tries to rough Hamilton up, to boss him is on a hiding to nothing, Lewis is the master of both those, you've got no chance of bossing lewis
Rosberg did a good jobOn occasion. But Doink is right. Hamilton is more than capable of roughing up others and has done, with impunity, more than once.
Thoughts? I think it would be a very wise decision if true.
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/11332...
https://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-considering-r...
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/11332...
https://www.planetf1.com/news/vettel-considering-r...
TheDeuce said:
I was wondering if his rather cheerful and relaxed demeanour this season was more a result of not caring so much, as thinking he still had a chance to shine.
Could well be just gossip but he's at the age to consider leaving, it wouldn't be that unusual. He also has the Leclerc pressure, the fact he's a father now, probably a degree of frustration that he hasn't achieved very much with already the "top team" (you know what I mean...) and that he's gone long enough without glory to probably just be a bit fed up of the job now - a lot of PR and it's not as if he needs the money.
The temptation to just enjoy this season for what it is, and then walk off into the sunset and be a family man must be pretty extreme. If true, fair enough.
I think you could be spot on.Could well be just gossip but he's at the age to consider leaving, it wouldn't be that unusual. He also has the Leclerc pressure, the fact he's a father now, probably a degree of frustration that he hasn't achieved very much with already the "top team" (you know what I mean...) and that he's gone long enough without glory to probably just be a bit fed up of the job now - a lot of PR and it's not as if he needs the money.
The temptation to just enjoy this season for what it is, and then walk off into the sunset and be a family man must be pretty extreme. If true, fair enough.
2017/18 seems to have taken a lot of him. No doubt the pressure at Ferrari as well will take its toll.
If it does happen then who will Ferrari be looking at?
Verstappen? Ricciardo? Alonso?
Many would state that Alonso had no chance. But you never know.
Muzzer79 said:
I can't really see what Ferrari would gain, unless they could get hold of Verstappen or Hamilton.
Look at the list of potential 'successors' to Vettel:
Grosjean - seriously??
Perez
Magnussen
Bottas would be a safe pair of hands but Ferrari don't do safe pair of hands in the last 25 years - they do winners and champions (at least one driver anyway)
LeClerc has the potential to be very good but he's had 6 races for Ferrari. It's a little early to be sticking all your eggs in his basket.
Can you imagine the reaction of Italy if Ferrari release their statement:
"Our 4-time WDC Sebastian Vettel is leaving and here is his illustrious replacement......Kevin Magnussen"
Can't see it.
I did laugh at the replacements being stated. Not a chance unless they were wanting to have LeClerc as a clear number one.Look at the list of potential 'successors' to Vettel:
Grosjean - seriously??
Perez
Magnussen
Bottas would be a safe pair of hands but Ferrari don't do safe pair of hands in the last 25 years - they do winners and champions (at least one driver anyway)
LeClerc has the potential to be very good but he's had 6 races for Ferrari. It's a little early to be sticking all your eggs in his basket.
Can you imagine the reaction of Italy if Ferrari release their statement:
"Our 4-time WDC Sebastian Vettel is leaving and here is his illustrious replacement......Kevin Magnussen"
Can't see it.
The fact they have stated these drivers as replacements makes me doubt the story. But there is a number of different sources stating the same.
TheDeuce said:
Verstappen maybe an outside chance, but I expect the first time they try and 'manage' him, verbal/physical punches will get thrown and the happy relationship wouldn't last long. Also RB would fight tooth and nail to hang on to their star boy.
Alonso, too old. Not too old to win today, but as an investment, I can't see it.
It's basically Ricciardo I think. I know he's on a multi-year contract with Renault, but that could simply mean a multi-year option from his side, or a relatively small buyout sum. Teams so often find a way to present a contract as 'multi-year' now, probably to keep fans/investors/sponsors engaged. Anyway, he's the best driver they would have a chance of coaxing, and let's be honest, he's not going to need very much coaxing from where he is right now. Ferrari can also afford to buy him out of his contract no matter what.
I'd love to see it! We already have an RB vs Ferrari situation brewing, next year the same but DR vs MV? Yes, that will be ideal
Or Hamilton moves from Mercedes to Ferrari? Can't see that either when the Mercedes is so good but it seems to get mentioned.Alonso, too old. Not too old to win today, but as an investment, I can't see it.
It's basically Ricciardo I think. I know he's on a multi-year contract with Renault, but that could simply mean a multi-year option from his side, or a relatively small buyout sum. Teams so often find a way to present a contract as 'multi-year' now, probably to keep fans/investors/sponsors engaged. Anyway, he's the best driver they would have a chance of coaxing, and let's be honest, he's not going to need very much coaxing from where he is right now. Ferrari can also afford to buy him out of his contract no matter what.
I'd love to see it! We already have an RB vs Ferrari situation brewing, next year the same but DR vs MV? Yes, that will be ideal
Pickled said:
Kimi back from Sauber with Mick Schumacher into his seat for a season?
Ferrari needs someone who will win them a Championship. Kimi did in the past but is not on the same level as Hamilton.Verstappen or Ricciardo would get my vote. Alonso also but that would be a short term fix. Maybe Ferrari would do a one year deal until someone else becomes available.
Or Vettel is staying put........LOL
CustardOnChips said:
No one is on the same level as Hamilton so they will struggle if that's what they are looking for.
It's hard to tell when the Mercedes has been so good. Vettel isn't on Hamilton's level that is for sure. Ricciardo soundly beat him.Current grid I would say Verstappen. But how he would be in a title fight is another story. His personality could be to win at all costs.
Time will tell. I just hope Hamilton sticks around long enough.
Stan the Bat said:
I'm interested to see how VB77 goes the rest of the year !
Might be a hot property at years end. ( or might not )
He has been impressive this year. The stubble has made a difference. Might be a hot property at years end. ( or might not )
Canada will be a big race. Needs a pole and to get into the first corner ahead of Hamilton. If Hamilton wins the demons in Botta's head might start to appear.
The Hamilton demons
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