Beginner’s questions?
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Stevemr

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Friday 15th November 2024
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Hi all,
Ok bear with me, not considered electric cars up until now, but a change in circumstances and the new EV3 from Kia are making me look at them.
So this is probably a very very simple question,
They have a battery whose size is given in kWh.
If I go on an EV tariff it’s about 7 pence a kWh.
Looking at Ionity site, it’s 43 pence a kWh.
Does this mean if the battery is 80 kWh it takes 80x 7 p to charge? ( I understand you will never actually be putting in a full 80, cos it will never be totally empty?)
Logic tells me that’s the case, but that means a full charge at home is about £5 and at a public charger about £34. For 300 miles driving, and that sounds to good to be true?
So is my thinking wrong?

Stevemr

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Friday 15th November 2024
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Ah, I knew there would be a catch, so day time electric rate would be higher?
Presumably I could put Tapo plugs on dishwasher/ washing machine drier etc and run them during the night to mitigate that.

Stevemr

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Friday 15th November 2024
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Yes I will have a charger, and yes definitely charge at night, but previous poster seemed to indicate eve tarif was a higher rate during day, which I took to mean a higher than normal rate, which would impact on the normal house electric costs.

Stevemr

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Friday 15th November 2024
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Yep, I’m definitely coming round to the idea. I like the look of that ev3. The big battery version has a good range. The 2 year/ 20000 mile service intervals help as well.

Stevemr

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Saturday 16th November 2024
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Ah, good point , hadn’t thought about that!!

Stevemr

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Saturday 16th November 2024
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It does seem the price gap is narrowing, looking at Kia niro on autotrader, up to 1 year old and up to 5000 miles, the difference is only £1500 between cheapest petrol and cheapest full electric.
If you owned it 5 years, your £200 a month saving in fuel is a £12000 saving, plus cheaper servicing costs.
Obviously there would be resale value at 6 years old to consider as well. But between 6 year old 100000 mile cars, I can’t see that being much!

Stevemr

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Saturday 16th November 2024
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All good info so far.
What is this talk off 19-12% losses charging?

Stevemr

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Saturday 16th November 2024
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Right, read that, interesting!
Interesting about Tesla superchargers as well.
Are the plugs all standard now? In other words can I plug into any charger?
Also as a lot of my driving will be in Europe, are they standard over there?