2023: BTCC chat & discussion

2023: BTCC chat & discussion

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Sebring440

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Wednesday 2nd November 2022
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From today's new release:

The annual end-of-season meeting between series organiser TOCA and all participating BTCC teams has resulted in a number of changes to next year’s sporting regulations. The headline amendments include the return of the ‘Top Ten Showdown’ qualifying format, reintroduction of the ‘Option’ tyre, and changes to the rules regarding Hybrid deployment.

Broad information regarding these main changes is outlined below:

Qualifying Format

The ‘Top Ten Showdown’ qualifying that was first introduced in 2020 and expanded in 2021, will make a return next season with the format now being adopted at five of the ten events.

All drivers will take part in the normal 30-minute qualifying session to record their lap times. Following a short five-minute break, the fastest ten competitors will then progress to a ten-minute pole position ‘Top Ten Showdown’ session to determine the top ten places on the grid.

The ‘Top Ten Showdown’ will take place (on the Saturday) at the following events:
• Donington Park (National) – 22/23 April
• Brands Hatch (Indy) – 06/07 May
• Oulton Park – 17/18 June
• Knockhill – 12/13 August
• Silverstone – 23/24 September
Option Tyre

Drivers and teams unanimously requested the reintroduction of the Goodyear ‘Option’ tyre at all events with the exception of Thruxton, where only the hard tyre will be used due to the high-speed and more abrasive nature of the track.

The majority of these events will utilise two of the three compounds – hard, medium or soft – where the ‘Option’ tyre must be used at least once during race one, race two or race three – ensuring a variety of strategies.

At two of the events – Snetterton and Croft – all three tyre choices must be used across the three races.

Teams will not have to specify before qualifying, the race in which they will use their ‘Option’ tyre, with all choices being declared upon cars leaving the pit lane.


Hybrid Deployment

Following the successful introduction (ha ha!) of Hybrid power into the BTCC in 2022 – becoming the first major touring car series in the world to do so – several enhancements have been made to ensure deployment carries a greater impact from 2023 onwards.

The top seven cars in the championship and/or top seven cars on the grid will have reduced Hybrid time during qualifying and the races on a sliding scale, whilst the minimum speed at which the system can be deployed for those top seven has been increased.

Cars from eighth place onwards will be able to deploy Hybrid power from a reduced minimum speed, ensuring these drivers can utilise the additional power quicker than the leading order.

These cars – from eighth place onwards – will only have Hybrid deployment available for 50% of the racing laps, ensuring a greater tactical element throughout the race with those drivers having to be more strategic in choosing which of those laps to use it.

Hybrid can now also be deployed on the first lap after the safety car and the minimum time between deployments has been increased to five seconds, preventing drivers from staying on the power at the conclusion of one lap and into another.


So the hybrid deployment rules are as simple and clear to understand as ever. But if the button doesn't work, no reason to worry about whether you can use it or not.

In other news, Baby Sutton is due in April, just in time for the BTCC season!

Sebring440

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Friday 4th November 2022
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Chunkychucky said:
So not switching to using 'V8 Supercars' spec vehicles? Yawn, roll on 2024...
Is that when the V8s are being introduced?


Sebring440

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Saturday 5th November 2022
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EDLT said:
No, that's when they're brining back William Woodward to present Top Gear.
I think you're thinking of Edward Woodward.

Sebring440

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Monday 7th November 2022
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siandcian said:
Great changes and be another good season.
I agree.

As long as Cosworth actually manage to engineer a safe, reliable hybrid system over the coming months.

At the final races at Brands, both Laser Tools Racing and Team BMW were given the latest "mk 2" version of the hybrid — both failed.


Sebring440

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Tuesday 29th November 2022
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Milkyway said:
Or... maybe Adam’s looking at Porsche’s / GT championships
No, he's continuing in the BTCC. That's the deal that has been done. He just won't be driving for his own team.


Sebring440

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Friday 16th December 2022
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Milkyway said:
JoelH said:
Fans hate class based racing in general. It's too confusing and for TV it's even worse as they always focus on the outright leaders and forget about everyone else.
True... or try to explain how a driver near the back of the field is the overall Championship leader / Champion.
It was you that suggested going back to the class system?


Sebring440

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Friday 23rd December 2022
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JoelH said:
The number of posts from people who realise that drivers like Dan are bringing the budget are tiny in comparison. Even when he posts himself and says that the Excler8 2023 budget was too high for him people still ask why he left.
That's certainly true. It's all about the money. The drivers (or their managers) have got to be very astute businessmen/women to gather enough sponsorship (cash) to get a drive. And the difference in cost between the "top" teams and the, umm, "bottom" teams is quite marked. Fans that think that teams "pay" the drivers are sadly uninformed, but that doesn't mean that they are less of a fan.

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Tuesday 27th December 2022
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Also he can get publicity for his sponsors in BTCC but won’t in GTs.
That is certainly correct. It's very difficult for sponsors to get any exposure or brand recognition from the GTs.

Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
I have a feeling that most of his budget is family money with some other sponsors who are also family money.
You have a "feeling"? Why do you think that all his sponsors are "family money"?

Sebring440

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Sunday 8th January 2023
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On-Rails said:
Expecting some big news soon, so should be worth the wait!
woohoobounceclap

rofl


Best post of the year so far!

What does it mean though?

Sebring440

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Sunday 8th January 2023
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LukeBrown66 said:
I feel the same about BTCC as I do about hybrid era F1 it just does nothing for me.

I will perhaps watch one or two races a year but have zero desire to attend, would rather do a couple of clubbies.
Why are you bothering to post on a BTCC chat thread then?


Sebring440

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Friday 3rd February 2023
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On-Rails said:
Expecting the ‘big’ news to be announced this Tuesday unless any last minute changes ??
The "big" news was on Wednesday, wasn't it?


Sebring440

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Saturday 4th February 2023
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On-Rails said:
Sponsor wise maybe, but this coming weeks has a bit more to it.
Oh, there's still lots to come in the coming weeks.


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Monday 6th February 2023
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Dynion Araf Uchaf said:
Ginger arm hairs. Must be Cookie
Dark hair on his arms. Can't be Cookie.

Sebring440

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Tuesday 4th April 2023
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No Team Dynamics this year (latest from Brands Hatch testing today).

Sebring440

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Wednesday 5th April 2023
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Willhire89 said:
I think Steve and Matt will happily settle into running and prepping historics in which case TD will not be back in the BTCC
I could not disagree more! Dynamics will be back next year.

Sebring440

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Saturday 8th April 2023
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GlobalRacer said:
They are based on the car they're supposed to be. You can't build one without the bodyshell of the car.
Interesting. How much of the original bodyshell is retained then?


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Sunday 9th April 2023
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GlobalRacer said:
Everything apart from the front chassis legs/inner wings and the same on the back
What about the main bulkhead, the floors, the boot floor, all that is standard to the original bodyshell?


Sebring440

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Sunday 9th April 2023
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agent006 said:
How about you tell us? .
I can't tell you. I'm genuinely interested. But obviously you know, so spill.

Sebring440

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Wednesday 12th April 2023
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New 2023 grid:


Sebring440

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Tuesday 18th April 2023
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stevemcs said:
Who's off to Donnington ? We are heading off Friday evening.
Don't set your sat-nav to "Donnington" as that's in Berkshire.