RE: Honda And Mugen Reveal 2.2-Litre Type R

RE: Honda And Mugen Reveal 2.2-Litre Type R

Friday 9th September 2011

Honda And Mugen Reveal 2.2-Litre Type R

Ultimate swansong for Screaming K20 engine courtesy of Mugen



Honda and Mugen are currently evaluating plans to build an upgraded 2.2-litre version of the Honda Civic Type R Mugen that was released in 2010.

Seems you can't kill the Honda K20 engine with a stick. Despite the fact that the high-revving 2.0-litre motor officially died, along with the current generation of Civic Type R in December last year, legendary Honda Tuner Mugen still hasn't finished with it.

They've taken the 1998cc engine, and increased its bore and stroke, giving 2156cc of swept capacity. That pushes power up from 237bhp to 256bhp, plus a moderately healthy (in Honda terms) 177lb ft of torque. Over the standard Civic Type R, that's an increase in both power and torque of 30 per cent.


But exactly what Mugen is going to do with its new 2.2 K20 is another matter. One possibility is that it will upgrade the four remaining unsold Type R Mugens to 2.2 spec, while another option is to offer the upgrade to owners of existing cars.

Either way, it's a nice swansong for the old screamer...

 



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thewheelman

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2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Good! I'll always have a soft spot for fast Fords & fast Hondas, yet to drive a Civic type R myself, good to see they still make the Type R, as i thought they ceased production of them.

suffolk009

5,373 posts

165 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Isn't this the same engine that Ariel have put into their Mugen badged Atom?

Ali_T

3,379 posts

257 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Production has stopped now but when Mugen made the Mugen 20 edition, 4 remained unsold. Hence, there will be 4 of these....

VXED

383 posts

183 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Ali_T said:
Production has stopped now but when Mugen made the Mugen 20 edition, 4 remained unsold. Hence, there will be 4 of these....
Wasn't the Mugen edition about 38k, so this will be somewhere around 45k i'd guess!

thewheelman

Original Poster:

2,194 posts

173 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Ali_T said:
Production has stopped now but when Mugen made the Mugen 20 edition, 4 remained unsold. Hence, there will be 4 of these....
Surefire collectors item then.

frankthetank2

625 posts

184 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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suffolk009 said:
Isn't this the same engine that Ariel have put into their Mugen badged Atom?
No, that has a 270bhp 2.0 engine

iphonedyou

9,245 posts

157 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Nice! Would love a drive in one of these! smile

RB Will

9,663 posts

240 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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frankthetank2 said:
suffolk009 said:
Isn't this the same engine that Ariel have put into their Mugen badged Atom?
No, that has a 270bhp 2.0 engine
That is what this should have

britsportscars

281 posts

178 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Awesome motor!

frankthetank2

625 posts

184 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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RB Will said:
frankthetank2 said:
suffolk009 said:
Isn't this the same engine that Ariel have put into their Mugen badged Atom?
No, that has a 270bhp 2.0 engine
That is what this should have
The Mugen atom engine is probably set up for the atom specifically with less torque I'm guessing, also i don't know if the quoted power outputs are at the wheel or flywheel for each of these cars, the flywheel outputs of each engine could be very similar.

alexpa

644 posts

172 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Put them in a Caterham wink

Johnboy Mac

2,666 posts

178 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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In black sans wing & red badges, then I'd consider it. Cracking engine.

Ali_T

3,379 posts

257 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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VXED said:
Wasn't the Mugen edition about 38k, so this will be somewhere around 45k i'd guess!
Just about bang on with that guess. £46k.

Pozzy

132 posts

164 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Funny story, I was about 20 feet away doing a three-point turn when those photos were taken around the back of Northampton football stadium last week.

OK, that wasn't particularly funny, just coincidence!

jprocterfd2

3 posts

154 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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My lightly modded JDM type r fd2 gets 245bhp and 172 torques so i would have though that they'd be able to get more from a 2.2 will still be a nice machine though. I'm now aiming to get it up to 280+bhp and 200+torques N/A
Sad to see the very last proper Type Rs go on sale. What shall they replace that k20 with.....

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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After all the news from Honda regarding the avalanche of improvements made for the next Civic, this is one last minute swan song indeed.

I really hope Honda and Mugen sort out something a little more affordable with the next Type R.

OllieC

3,816 posts

214 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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jprocterfd2 said:
torques
Stop it.

coogy

955 posts

211 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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THAT engine in a Championship White DC2 Integra please smile

Civpilot

6,235 posts

240 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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frankthetank2 said:
RB Will said:
frankthetank2 said:
suffolk009 said:
Isn't this the same engine that Ariel have put into their Mugen badged Atom?
No, that has a 270bhp 2.0 engine
That is what this should have
The Mugen atom engine is probably set up for the atom specifically with less torque I'm guessing, also i don't know if the quoted power outputs are at the wheel or flywheel for each of these cars, the flywheel outputs of each engine could be very similar.
Frank is correct. The engine in the 2.2 is specific to this new car. It is also (at the moment) a complete one off due to the fact that it has quite a few bespoke parts made specifically for this installation to Mugens own specifications.

To quote Mugen themselves...

mugen said:
We made 1 x crank and 12 x pistons - machined from scratch to our specification and design. That's it, that's all the parts there are in existence.
They are not modified anything, or made from anybody else's parts; they are one-offs.
If we build any more engines we will need to get some more made.
And just to point out the mugen quoted above is Mugen Euro (based in Northampton) and it is the engine guy there who developed this engine. Nothing to do with Mugen Japan at all, totally home grown.

ps. Would really love one of these in a 5 door body for some reason, maybe with a 1.4 badge on the back hehe

Likes Fast Cars

2,770 posts

165 months

Friday 9th September 2011
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Worth saving up for.