RE: Driven: Aston Martin V12 Zagato

RE: Driven: Aston Martin V12 Zagato

Wednesday 28th September 2011

Driven: Aston Martin V12 Zagato

PH tries the mighty V12 race version on the track



When you combine the brands of Aston Martin and Zagato you're setting the scene for some fairly major expectations.


You might think back to that original collaboration from the early 1960s, the DB4 GT Zagato, a superb concoction of style and menace wrapping thoroughbred British engineering; Jim Clark sublimely drifting '2 VEV' at Goodwood. Then there's the V8 Zagato of 1985: I've not driven one, but the idea of a shorter, lighter, V8 Vantage (in the original sense of the badge) on massive Webers, and with a bit of an attitude problem, holds massive appeal I think.

Both companies tried again in 2003 with a creation based on the DB7 Vantage, and followed it up with some American market roadsters too. Now, fifty years after the original they're at it again. Aston Martin is a long way removed from its cottage industry past, and Zagato is these days in Russian hands as part of the Coventry-based CPP (Coventry Prototype Panels) group, but the idea is roughly the same.


As I'm sure you know by now, the V12 Zagato is essentially a more ferocious incarnation of the V12 Vantage, its hand-formed aluminium body produced by CPP's craftsmen in Coventry. From the middle of next year there will be a V12 Zagato road car costing around £330,000, but to test and develop the prototypes Aston Martin decided upon a demanding and very public schedule.

They built two cars - the much referred to 'Zig and Zag'. Green Zig has always been a racing car, taking to the Nurburgring circuit for the VLN series and then the Nurburgring 24 hour race at the end of June. Red Zag would begin life as a show car, initially without the aerokit, and winning the Concepts and Prototypes Design award at the Villa D'Este concours at Lake Como. Trophy netted, Zag was then brought up to full race spec for the N24 race alongside Zig, and then converted back to a road car for the recent Frankfurt motor show.


Zig in particular had an impressive showing at the N24, demonstrating excellent speed until an unfortunate pitlane altercation marred its race. Now, with incredible good fortune, I'm getting to drive it.

But first it's into a V8. So that we can re-familiarise ourselves with the Nurburgring Grand Prix track (we're not using the Nordschleife for this test, sadly!) there's a pair of V8 Vantage GT4 cars ready in the pits. I pick the angrier-looking orange one, which turns out to be a sort of GT4+ spec, suitable for VLN customers wanting to increase their on-track performance. Unlike the standard GT4 it features a large rear wing, the latest seven-speed paddle shift gearbox and an unsilenced exhaust.

Then it's on to the main event, lurking in the pitlane. Wow. Up close and personal Zig is a monster, something pictures can't really communicate; the ornate folds of its terrifyingly expensive aluminium panels, the massive rear wing and the even more aggressive rear diffuser that sprouts from the rear of the car.


Climbing in requires an equal amount of contortion as the V8, but once you're in the view is fairly familiar although most of the controls are now on a bespoke panel in the middle of the centre console. One of these is the ignition switch, and with that primed the V12 catches in the usual theatrical manner, albeit, much, much louder.

It's so invigorating to think that racing cars can still sound like this. When that 6-litre V12 kicks into life with a BLAM! and then settles to its intimidating idle something deep inside of you can't fail to rejoice. Electric racing cars? Diesel racing cars? No thanks.

Once the window net has been attached to my left the cockpit becomes dark and almost turret-like in the view out it offers, providing a strong contrast with the most unusually sunny weather at the 'Ring.


Moving off is simply a case of selecting first in the six-speed paddle shift gearbox and applying the throttle, and as soon as you're rolling it's clear that this mighty engine dominates the whole car - it's harmonics and vibrations reverberate around you. It pulls from low revs with easy-going elasticity, and then sings towards the rev limiter: it's very, very quick, if not quite 'uncomfortable', although some of that is because you feel so secure and confident strapped in tight and with a great driving position. The claims are 0-60mph in under 4sec and around 190mph, which feels about right.

Given only three flying laps in the car it would be daft to start making too many judgements on how it drives, but the family Aston 'feel' is still inherently present, albeit with everything that much more immediate and more precise. Weighing considerably less than other models on this platform (at 1,350kg) but with a mildly tuned engine (now 530hp and 440lb ft of torque) it's no surprise that the V12 makes light work of hauling this car out of tight turns - you can use third gear for the final corner onto the straight and then enjoy a great seam of acceleration along it. Stopping at the other end is convincing too, certainly by road-car standards, thanks to Brembo six-pot callipers with massive grooved discs, and as you flick down the quick-shifting 'box you're treated to an extravagant series of pops and bangs from the V12 (sorry, must stop talking about the noise it makes).


With fully adjustable Multimatic DSSV dampers, rose-jointed suspension and slicks, the V12 Zagato is clearly going to be in a different dimension to something like a V12 Vantage road car. In one sense it's obvious that there's a considerable weight of engine up front, but the classic front-engine/rear-wheel drive layout seems to create a straightforward series of messages, and although the steering is a bit lighter than you might expect that doesn't dent your confidence. You'd love the way it steers - wonderfully direct - and after the easy-going nature of the GT4 it feels a lot more alert, responding to some braking into the corners and benefiting from a much more aggressive gear shift. When you factor in the performance and the noise (sorry...) it makes for the kind of absorbing experience that so nearly leads to pit board blindness.


It might not be quite at GT3 class level, but if Aston Martin wanted to create a charismatic road-race sports car that, as has been demonstrated, is also quick in serious competition, they've succeeded. £330,000 for a road version? Big money, but on the strength of this you're unlikely to be disappointed.

 





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dirtbiker

Original Poster:

1,189 posts

166 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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Love the back end of this design - very 'angry looking'.

I think we'll let you off going on about the noise too as I'm sure it sounds amazing!

Schnellmann

1,893 posts

204 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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I'm not sure that 3 laps of a track in a race car version of the V12 Zagato tells us much about what the eventual road-going version will be like (on the road), which I assume will be important for anyone willing to stump up the not inconsiderable purchase price of £330'000. Price aside I do actually like the looks.

cookie1600

2,114 posts

161 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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I thought the Zagato / CPP thing was still only a joint venture called CPP Milan?

http://www.zagato.it/pdf/Zagato_join_venture_with_...

+ when will Spyker get taken over by CPP or is that still hush-hush too?

No worries, it's on the lottery list anyway!

Edited by cookie1600 on Wednesday 28th September 12:31

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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What's all the blue piping at the front of the engine block?

George H

14,707 posts

164 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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JohnG1 said:
What's all the blue piping at the front of the engine block?
No idea, cooling system at a guess. Is it usually there under the huge piece of plastic with the 'final inspection' badge on it?

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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JohnG1 said:
What's all the blue piping at the front of the engine block?
Probably (Samco) silcone hosing

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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PJ S said:
Probably (Samco) silcone hosing
But for what?


LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

197 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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JohnG1 said:
What's all the blue piping at the front of the engine block?
Asbestos!

T1PP3R

80 posts

155 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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This may be controversial... but i never liked astons 6.0 V12 and the fact they have continued to use it for such a long time is really starting to put me off aston martin...although even i will admit that the new zagato is stunning to look at

PJ S

10,842 posts

227 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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JohnG1 said:
PJ S said:
Probably (Samco) silcone hosing
But for what?
Cooling!
Didn't you Google Samco silicone hoses, to see what they were?

DanDC5

18,786 posts

167 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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Looking at the 'road going' version, it looks amazing, no doubt it will be very good. But £300,000+, really? I'm not sure it could ever be worth that kind of money....

jonby

5,357 posts

157 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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This really p**ses me off to read, when will journos get it right

The roadgoing Zag will be a V12 Vantage with the Zagato body panels and some badging inside. No more, no less.

I received another info & order pack from AM yesterday re the Zagato and it confirmed the same

Amazing & beautiful car though the Zag may be, I find it rather misleading of AM, close to the point of being disingenuous, to suggest that the N24 they entered was in some way a 'shakedown test' of the Zag when the the roadgoing car will have a different engine, suspension, exhaust, gearbox, brakes, wheels, seats, interior and even window material to the car entered in that race & reported upon both here & elsewhere as being in some way a meaningful representation of the road car to be produced next year

Shape aside, I doubt there is a single nut, bolt or indeed component of any description that actually influences the driving experience that is shared between the two cars

LongLiveTazio

2,714 posts

197 months

Wednesday 28th September 2011
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T1PP3R said:
This may be controversial... but i never liked astons 6.0 V12 and the fact they have continued to use it for such a long time is really starting to put me off aston martin...although even i will admit that the new zagato is stunning to look at
Not controversial, just bizarre. How long do you think Colombo-designed V12s were in service for? Length of service has nothing to do with engineering integrity or development. I don't know at what point you start thinking a 6 litre V12 is disappointing confused

High Roller

110 posts

173 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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I think the Vantage is already a beautiful car that didn't really need any alterations. The Zagato package is a slight improvement (to the rear end in particular) but in no way justifies the price, in my opinion. Now, if they had spent all that extra money improving the handling and reducing the weight then it would have been worth it. The Zagato is just a car for poseurs if you ask me.

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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High Roller said:
I think the Vantage is already a beautiful car that didn't really need any alterations. The Zagato package is a slight improvement (to the rear end in particular) but in no way justifies the price, in my opinion. Now, if they had spent all that extra money improving the handling and reducing the weight then it would have been worth it. The Zagato is just a car for poseurs if you ask me.
The handling? What's wrong with the handling for a V12 Vantage?

Kamox

125 posts

172 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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I want a video recordered with a broadcast-quality microphone!!!

DMC2

1,834 posts

211 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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£330k, yeah right. They couldn't even sell the original 1000 V12 Vantages at £140k! I was offered a new one for under £110k, so why would anybody pay three times as much for the same car with different panels!! No thanks.

humpy

1,171 posts

219 months

Thursday 29th September 2011
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I filmed a fly past on the Nurburgring straight - Click

nite_narc

120 posts

186 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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George H said:
No idea, cooling system at a guess. Is it usually there under the huge piece of plastic with the 'final inspection' badge on it?
It's aluminium, not plastic.

Zod

35,295 posts

258 months

Friday 30th September 2011
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T1PP3R said:
This may be controversial... but i never liked astons 6.0 V12
Why?