RE: Nissan GT-R 2012: More For Less (Fuel)
Tuesday 8th November 2011
Nissan has revealed its latest version of the GT-R - and it's got still more power.
Nissan GT-R 2012: More For Less (Fuel)
Tweaks for refreshed GT-R include more power, more economy - and a track-focused version
There are now 542 horses beneath the bonnet (up from 523bhp) while torque is up 15lb ft to 466lb ft. This coincides with the mpg figure creeping up to 24 on the combined cycle, up from 23.5.
Intiguingly, Nissan has also fitted a newly developed asymmetric suspension for the front of the car to help compensate for the greater weight on the driver's side on RHD examples.
Perhaps the most intriguing news, however, is that Nissan a track-focused version specifically for Japan and the UK. Exactly what form this will take, and what price both it and the MY 2012 car will be, we shall find out in early December...
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Discussion
Right may aswell get this out of the way:
1. It's too heavy and eats consumables.
2. It can only do 1 or 2 hot laps.
3. It lacks feel and has too many electronics.
4. It looks like a car from GT5.
5. It's not a <insert brand here>.
6. Servicing costs the same as a ££££££ car and it is unreliable.
Some minor improvements all round, I have never understood why more manufacturers don't go down this route if the initial model is successful. Some cars are a great design to start with so why not keep the same principles but improve them.
I don't like the styling too much but still a nice car all the same
1. It's too heavy and eats consumables.
2. It can only do 1 or 2 hot laps.
3. It lacks feel and has too many electronics.
4. It looks like a car from GT5.
5. It's not a <insert brand here>.
6. Servicing costs the same as a ££££££ car and it is unreliable.
Some minor improvements all round, I have never understood why more manufacturers don't go down this route if the initial model is successful. Some cars are a great design to start with so why not keep the same principles but improve them.
I don't like the styling too much but still a nice car all the same
heh, last time I was at the ring I was in the little carpark by the entrance, wondering round looking at the posh metal. There was a brit there in a very shiney GTR.
he was compaining that he had to go to the petrol station (which is a couple of miles away), it had used 3/4 of its tank in 3 laps
it has a 20 gallon tank.
quick fag packet calculations suggest <3mpg.
my mx5 at the same time managed 180 miles (mostly laps of the ring, but a few of the gp circuit) on a tank almost exactly half the size. Still, he was probably going a touch quicker
he was compaining that he had to go to the petrol station (which is a couple of miles away), it had used 3/4 of its tank in 3 laps
it has a 20 gallon tank.
quick fag packet calculations suggest <3mpg.
my mx5 at the same time managed 180 miles (mostly laps of the ring, but a few of the gp circuit) on a tank almost exactly half the size. Still, he was probably going a touch quicker
5lab said:
heh, last time I was at the ring I was in the little carpark by the entrance, wondering round looking at the posh metal. There was a brit there in a very shiney GTR.
he was compaining that he had to go to the petrol station (which is a couple of miles away), it had used 3/4 of its tank in 3 laps
it has a 20 gallon tank.
quick fag packet calculations suggest <3mpg.
my mx5 at the same time managed 180 miles (mostly laps of the ring, but a few of the gp circuit) on a tank almost exactly half the size. Still, he was probably going a touch quicker
Maybe he found a pump that sold Bull juice.he was compaining that he had to go to the petrol station (which is a couple of miles away), it had used 3/4 of its tank in 3 laps
it has a 20 gallon tank.
quick fag packet calculations suggest <3mpg.
my mx5 at the same time managed 180 miles (mostly laps of the ring, but a few of the gp circuit) on a tank almost exactly half the size. Still, he was probably going a touch quicker
The GTR is like a rhino.
It's big, very powerful and when it wants to charge it will wipe out pretty much anything. What it can't do is constantly run laps like a light cheetah (GT3, Exige, etc); both are different beasts. The GTR is a bit of a heffer albeit mostly due to it's sheer size and own muscle but then again some people prefer rhino's to cheetah's - it's just about preference. :P Both types of cars are capable of going fast yet both focus on different elements of physics.
Obviously they cost lots more than your typical sports car as they aren't competing in the same league; it's a fair price to pay considering the overall package (speed, practicality, road presence to name a few). There are a LOT of myths and horror stories about the GTR that aren't true made up primarily by those that have never even driven let alone owned one.
Personally I think the GTR (and rhino's) are fantastic! At least Nissan are prepared to give it a proper go unlike the half a***ed attempts from Honda, Toyota and so on.
It's big, very powerful and when it wants to charge it will wipe out pretty much anything. What it can't do is constantly run laps like a light cheetah (GT3, Exige, etc); both are different beasts. The GTR is a bit of a heffer albeit mostly due to it's sheer size and own muscle but then again some people prefer rhino's to cheetah's - it's just about preference. :P Both types of cars are capable of going fast yet both focus on different elements of physics.
Obviously they cost lots more than your typical sports car as they aren't competing in the same league; it's a fair price to pay considering the overall package (speed, practicality, road presence to name a few). There are a LOT of myths and horror stories about the GTR that aren't true made up primarily by those that have never even driven let alone owned one.
Personally I think the GTR (and rhino's) are fantastic! At least Nissan are prepared to give it a proper go unlike the half a***ed attempts from Honda, Toyota and so on.
Froomee said:
Right may aswell get this out of the way:
1. It's too heavy and eats consumables.
2. It can only do 1 or 2 hot laps.
3. It lacks feel and has too many electronics.
4. It looks like a car from GT5.
5. It's not a <insert brand here>.
6. Servicing costs the same as a ££££££ car and it is unreliable.
Some minor improvements all round, I have never understood why more manufacturers don't go down this route if the initial model is successful. Some cars are a great design to start with so why not keep the same principles but improve them.
I don't like the styling too much but still a nice car all the same
May as well get accurate responses out of the way.1. It's too heavy and eats consumables.
2. It can only do 1 or 2 hot laps.
3. It lacks feel and has too many electronics.
4. It looks like a car from GT5.
5. It's not a <insert brand here>.
6. Servicing costs the same as a ££££££ car and it is unreliable.
Some minor improvements all round, I have never understood why more manufacturers don't go down this route if the initial model is successful. Some cars are a great design to start with so why not keep the same principles but improve them.
I don't like the styling too much but still a nice car all the same
1. It's heavy but not too heavy & it does not eat consumables.
2. Rubbish, i've managed many back to back hot laps of Cadwell, Oulton & Silverstone F1.
3. Rubsish, suggest you drive one & don't believe the BS.
4. Perhaps but purely a matter of opinion.
5. No idea what the blank is but it doesn't try to be anything else & doesn't need to.
6. Rubbish unless you're comparing it to Ford or Vauxhall running costs. As for unreliable, rubbish again.
ps. my MY12 is on order to replace my modified MY10 next Spring
Autoexpress article
Nissan is readying an extreme GT-R for the UK. The Club Track edition is already on sale in Japan, and Kazutoshi Mizuno – who’s led the GT-R project since it began in 2007 – says it could come here.
The car would get the standard 3.8-litre twin-turbo V6, plus slick tyres, adjustable suspension and a stripped-out cabin with a roll cage. A price of around £80,000 is likely.
Plus, buyers can pay £25,000 a year extra to take part in a one-make race series, with one-to-one tuition from Mizuno. If that’s too extreme, the standard 2012 GT-R has a track pack option, which ditches the back seats and adds high-grip trim, plus adjustable suspension. However, power is unchanged.
Nissan is readying an extreme GT-R for the UK. The Club Track edition is already on sale in Japan, and Kazutoshi Mizuno – who’s led the GT-R project since it began in 2007 – says it could come here.
The car would get the standard 3.8-litre twin-turbo V6, plus slick tyres, adjustable suspension and a stripped-out cabin with a roll cage. A price of around £80,000 is likely.
Plus, buyers can pay £25,000 a year extra to take part in a one-make race series, with one-to-one tuition from Mizuno. If that’s too extreme, the standard 2012 GT-R has a track pack option, which ditches the back seats and adds high-grip trim, plus adjustable suspension. However, power is unchanged.
Froomee said:
Some minor improvements all round, I have never understood why more manufacturers don't go down this route if the initial model is successful. Some cars are a great design to start with so why not keep the same principles but improve them.
I agree, but when you look at other manufacturers who follow this principle, it's easy to see why more don't do it. Take the 911 for example - look at how many people slate each new iteration for being unimaginative and lazy! Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff