RE: PH Blog: viva V8s!

Tuesday 20th December 2011

PH Blog: viva V8s!

Global warming and all that? Yes, that'll be our fault



For all the talk of engine downsizing and eco doom it seems there an awful lot of big V8s around still. Good! And in an effort to score some more PH-worthy transport following the departure of my brilliant but somewhat modestly engined VW Caddy I seem to have had three in a row. All of them very different. But all of them rather wonderful!

Eight cylinders, two turbos, lots of fun
Eight cylinders, two turbos, lots of fun
The first, and the most new-school, was the E63 AMG wagon (and, yes, as Garlick pointed out on a previous thread this is an acceptable, if not compulsory term for Merc estates) with its new 5.5-litre twin-turbo lump. This, of course, replaces the old 6.2 and shows just how complex a modern V8 has to be to stand a chance of social acceptability these days. So that means piezo-based direct injection, variable cams, 'smart' ancillaries, two turbos, air/water intercooling and more besides. I remember chatting with the AMG engineers when I first drove this engine on the CLS63 and, refreshingly, for all the tech on the engine one of the things that got them most exercised was making sure it sounded proper.

Not the easiest when you add turbos of course, but they seem to have done a cracking job and the AMG thunder is present and correct, now overlayed with just the faintest rush of forced induction and a bit of a crackle on upshifts. It doesn't quite match the raw savagery of the outgoing 6.2, but equals the immense pulling power of the old M113 5.5-litre Kompressor V8 with vaguely acceptable running costs too. And it's obviously relatively easy to turn it up a bit too, which makes the near six grand Mercedes charges for the 557hp Performance Pack Plus hop-up seem even more outrageous.

Attention seekers apply here
Attention seekers apply here
I swapped the E63 for the 458 Italia we took down to Sunday Service. And the contrast couldn't have been greater between AMG's classic chugging V8 rumble and the 458's flat-plane howl. It looks great too with the two red crackle-painted intake plenums topping the throttle bodies and 'Testarossa' cylinder head covers. I drove the MP4-12C briefly the previous week too and though it sounds a lot better now and has that 'swept away on boost' sensation you'd expect, the 458 engine still has bags more charisma. Which is what you want out of a supercar.

And now? Well, waiting for me at Ferrari North Europe was my transport for the next couple of weeks - a V8 supercharged Range Rover Sport. More the old-school chugger compared with the polar opposite AMG and Ferrari engines, the JLR V8 has a lot of the feel of the aforementioned AMG Kompressor 5.5. It also gives the Range Rover a lovely V8 woofle like that of traditional Rangies. Going straight to that from the 458 it did feel like I was going to topple over the first time I went round a corner, but I've got used to it now.

Chalk and cheese anyone?
Chalk and cheese anyone?
And with Yorkshire beckoning for the festive season I'll be hoping for a white Christmas being as how, for the first time in living memory, I've actually got something approaching appropriate transport. Well, if you can still call a 500hp petrol V8 4x4 appropriate.

Dan

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Luca Brasi

Original Poster:

885 posts

174 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Who cares about social acceptability anyway? More V8s!

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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If they make noise Dan, do what I do with mine.


GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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More V10s please.

Ex Boy Racer

1,151 posts

192 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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you have to admire Mercedes. They have a 5.5 litre V8, plenty for most people, but they still feel the need to stick a couple of turbos on it!

goron59

397 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Yes, more V8s, but lets keep a few normally aspirated, OK?

jon-

16,505 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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GroundEffect said:
More V10s please.
V8 good, V10 better.

I can't imagine getting in the Rangie after a 458, must be like going from a go kart to an oil tanker.

5lab

1,652 posts

196 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Garlick said:
If they make noise Dan, do what I do with mine.

park badly?

Garlick

40,601 posts

240 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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5lab said:
park badly?
Oh rofl

Too quick for me.

LuS1fer

41,130 posts

245 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Disappointing. I was expecting some real Viva V8s (well..Firenzas...)

angusc43

11,474 posts

208 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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What a fabulous trio of V8's. Keep 'em coming.

gsd2000

11,515 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I like my V8 smile

Mr MoJo

4,698 posts

216 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Can't beat the sound of a V8. Whether a rumbler or a screamer.

I need a company car scheme like yours Dan wink

TREMAiNE

3,915 posts

149 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I do love the Mercedes V8, it's a wonderful engine! I miss my dads SL55! :'(

JohnG1

3,471 posts

205 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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jon- said:
GroundEffect said:
More V10s please.
V8 good, V10 better.

I can't imagine getting in the Rangie after a 458, must be like going from a go kart to an oil tanker.
Let's keep going with the positive, comparative, superlative vibe...

V12, best.


Liquid Knight

15,754 posts

183 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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Xenocide

4,286 posts

208 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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God I love the look of the 458. It's gorgeous.

maxwell99

8 posts

176 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I would grate my own testicles to own anything with a V8

sparkyhx

4,146 posts

204 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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maxwell99 said:
I would grate my own testicles to own anything with a V8
Old luxo barges can be had for relatively low rent these days.

I have a V8 - trouble is its doesn't sound like one..................well more accurately barely makes any noise at all (LS430

LuS1fer

41,130 posts

245 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I can't believe how horrid that yellow makes the 458 look.

Simes110

768 posts

151 months

Tuesday 20th December 2011
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I love... no, ADORE, both of mine.

An E55 estate, used sparingly, and a 3.5 fuel-injected Discovery.

How does £700 for a mint '93 Discovery with 46,000 from new sound? It was my part-time driver from March and was then promoted to my daily driver from August.