Audi S4 V8 engine

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blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Love the exhaust note on these cars so toyed with the idea of an Avant for my daily, bit of searching suggests all is not well on the long life service plan Audi recommend though, cases of cam chain tensioners causing expensive problems are not uncommon.

This is the rear view so it has to come out to fix it apparently.eek

Edited by blade7 on Monday 2nd January 16:54

Cupramax

10,480 posts

252 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Yep, its an engine out job IF they go. Audi dont recommend long life service if you're doing mainly short journeys, its only for cars doing 15k or over per year mainly long journeys. If I was going to keep a car for myself it'd have an oil change every 10k.

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Cupramax said:
Yep, its an engine out job IF they go. Audi dont recommend long life service if you're doing mainly short journeys, its only for cars doing 15k or over per year mainly long journeys. If I was going to keep a car for myself it'd have an oil change every 10k.
Think there was mention of the chain guides causing problems too, some owners were talking about oil every 5-6k to be on the safe side and avoid the £3k+ bill to sort it out.

scarebus

858 posts

171 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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That is a sexy picture lick

morgrp

4,128 posts

198 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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scarebus said:
That is a sexy picture lick
That is a lovely shot

To be honest most European v8's are cOmplex and pricey to work on

As for long life servicing? Well you're a mug if you believe it's a good idea

blade7

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Monday 2nd January 2012
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morgrp said:
As for long life servicing? Well you're a mug if you believe it's a good idea
I don't.

bencollins

3,503 posts

205 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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OHCs, not that clever.
Someone want to post the corvette engine?

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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It's not really to do with OHC as such, more that Audi have a front longitudinal engine and 4wd gearbox, where the front differential is in the main tranny. Hence, in order to not have lots of engine sticking out the front (and ruining the balance) they have to get the engine as short as possible, hence the rear chain drive solution.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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beggs the question, just how sludge up does the oil have to get to cause these kind of problems?

the chain setup looks no different to most modern engines these days, so understanding what the root cause would be interesting... (having just brought an Audi V8!)

jason s4

16,810 posts

170 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Rattling chains on start up is common on these, although the rattle should go within a second.

These cars are just starting to creep to 100K miles and so more problems are becoming apparent.

Lack of care is the main reason.

My V8 is running sweet with regular oil changes and services.

Best to try and pick one up with reasonable mileage, and well documented history.

Overall though, these engines are fairly bullet proof.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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good to hear!

interesting comments about long service intervals, really would have thought decent modern oils should be OK with this though? or do the dealers use cheap ste?

ensignia

919 posts

235 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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Would love an S4, but can't justify spending that sort of cash on a car that'd rarely get used. When I do use it, it'd be a 5 minute 1 mile journey to work, which would cause catastrophic economy and engine wear.

jason s4

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170 months

Monday 2nd January 2012
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ensignia said:
Would love an S4, but can't justify spending that sort of cash on a car that'd rarely get used. When I do use it, it'd be a 5 minute 1 mile journey to work, which would cause catastrophic economy and engine wear.
Then make it a 1 hour 12 mile journey then. thumbup

blade7

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11,311 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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jason s4 said:
Rattling chains on start up is common on these, although the rattle should go within a second.

These cars are just starting to creep to 100K miles and so more problems are becoming apparent.

Lack of care is the main reason.

My V8 is running sweet with regular oil changes and services.

Best to try and pick one up with reasonable mileage, and well documented history.

Overall though, these engines are fairly bullet proof.
Doesn't really look like a diy job if there are problems though, on one of the forums an Audi tech suggested good cars could be scrapped when it becomes uneconomic to repair the engines.

blade7

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216 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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Supposedly some leggy engines are also suffering from bore and valve guide wear, I wonder what would be the easiest transplant if the V8 went pop, 5 cylinder turbo maybe scratchchin.

Scuffers

20,887 posts

274 months

Monday 9th January 2012
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sounds like they need better oil and more changes?

blade7

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Monday 9th January 2012
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Scuffers said:
sounds like they need better oil and more changes?
Could be, interesting to know if another engine would bolt up to the gearbox without too much trouble though.

V8RX7

26,857 posts

263 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Bumping an old thread - any more news on their reliability ?

I've been considering getting one but of the 20 ads I've looked at, 2 have cam chain issues which is concerning as both are under 100k.

Four Litre

2,019 posts

192 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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Had an S4 V8 for a couple of years, only problem I had was a new starter motor as they like to stick now and then , eventually giving up. Apart from that it was solid as a rock. Timing chain rattle should only be noticable for a second on startup and certainly not something to be overly concerned about.

As with any modern V8 if the engine goes its time to fake your own death get the canoe out and paddle for panama!

Make sure you check both aux rads in the front of each wing, well documented that they rot and give up, mine had both replaced.

The only downer with these cars is the gearing, the manual cruises at 3.3-5rpm and as a result loves a drink, its one car where the auto is better on mpg and will cruise at 1.5rpm. On the upside the car is amazing in the snow, never forget being turned back by a police car as they were stuck on a hill, being told "you wont make it!" only to tootle past him dissapear over the hill with ease...

After the s4 Ive had a 6.0 Vxr8, a C55 AMG and now an ISF. All are better on fuel!! Just put this down the the gearing and perm 4x4 as opposed to the haldex TT's etc.




Sweller

29 posts

207 months

Thursday 21st February 2013
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I had a B6 S4 V8 for a couple years and it drank about a litre of oil every 1000 miles or so, which according to forums was normal. Given that they take 10L of oil, by the time you have done 10K miles you have completely changed the oil rotate