RE: PH2 ridden: Suzuki GSX-R750

RE: PH2 ridden: Suzuki GSX-R750

Tuesday 3rd January 2012

PH2 ridden: Suzuki GSX-R750

A star in its own right, the 750cc GSX-R hints at great things for the forthcoming 1,000cc version



Most assumed the iconic GSX-R750 would die the death of its fellow Japanese 750cc machines but, going against the flow, Suzuki updated it for 2011 anyway. With World Superbikes changing the regs in 2003 to permit in-line 1,000cc fours many took this as the end of the 750. And in many cases it was.

Overnight the 750 class was obsolete, meaning no more ultra-trick homologation specials like the Honda RC30, RC45 and SP1/2, stunning Yamaha YZF-R7 or even RR versions of the Kawasaki ZX-7R. But the GSX-R750 lives on.

It's a bike held in enormously high esteem by Suzuki. It redefined the class when it was first unveiled in 1985 with its aluminium frame and outrageously light weight. From that moment on it became Suzuki's most prized possession, its cult status proven by the frighteningly large number of people over the world with 'GSX-R' tattooed somewhere on their body.

A 600 with a 750's heart what's not to like
A 600 with a 750's heart what's not to like
Still going strong
So strong is the passion for the GSX-R750 that even now, nine years after the effective death of the 750 class, Suzuki still has the GSX-R750 in its model line-up and still updates the bike at the same intervals as the GSX-R600.

Let's not kid ourselves though. The GSX-R750 is essentially the GSX-R600 with extra capacity and slightly tricker forks. While it is still a mainstay of the range, Suzuki piggybacks the 600's development to make the bigger bike and the 750 has the same frame, swingarm, wheels and instruments as the 600.

Which is no bad thing. As well as updating the GSX-R's chassis for 2011 with a 1.3kg diet, longer swingarm and new Showa Big Piston forks, Suzuki has got to work on the engine's internal parts. New lighter pistons with shorter skirts (fnarr), re-profiled cams, increased compression and a neat system to reduce pumping losses seem fairly innocuous, but make a massive difference to the engine's performance and feel. While Suzuki only claims a small increase in mid-range power and torque, this translates to a huge difference in the ride.

Engine tweaks boost response
Engine tweaks boost response
It's what you do with it
In an age of mind-bending power figures, the GSX-R750's 147hp and 63lb ft of torque may seem a little tame, but it wasn't that long ago 1000s were making similar stats. And anyway, do you really need more than 190hp on the road? Ride the GSX-R750 and you may well decide not.

People always say the Lotus Elise is a driver's car and, in the same way, the GSX-R750 is a 'rider's bike.' It doesn't come lumbered with any electronic assists such as traction control or ABS, other than a choice of fuel maps (best ignored, just leave it in full power). It's a refreshing change and one that leads to a fantastically enjoyable ride.

Aural pleasure
Once you get going on the GSX-R the first thing that strikes you is the sound emerging from the airbox. Suzukis have always been throaty but the 2011 GSX-R takes it to a whole new level. Up the revs and the din increases in both volume and ferocity, something that genuinely brings a huge smile to your face.

Cheesy fake carbon looks cheap
Cheesy fake carbon looks cheap
A smile that only increases in size as you explore the engine's character. The updates to the 2011 model's motor seem fairly small, but they have given the engine a whole new feeling of lightness. On the throttle the 750cc engine feels faster to rev than the 2010 version, with the power building up with much more urgency.

Bikes rely a lot on feeling to get the most out of them. With 'only' 147hp the GSX-R has a lovely balance of power and usability that is often lacking in 1000s. Riding the 750 you can open the throttle fully, thrash the engine and feel like you are getting the most out of the bike. Try this on a 1000 and it can all get very scary, very fast. On the 750 it's still bloody fast, but it is fast in a controlled and fun fashion.

On some fairly cold winter roads, pushing the chassis or new Brembo brakes to any real degree wasn't really an option, but it certainly feels a bit more sprightly than the previous model while retaining the 'big bike' feel that you get with GSX-Rs. It is most noticeable on the 600, but in general GSX-Rs tend to be roomier for the rider than other Japanese bikes.

Brembo brakes and Showa forks feature
Brembo brakes and Showa forks feature
2012 trendsetter
So what does the GSX-R750 tell us about the yet-to-be-launched 2012 GSX-R1000? Unlike most of the other 1000s the GSX-R1000, like the 750, won't have any electronic assists. And the updates to the 750 have created a bike that is a joy to ride thanks to a superb natural balance between performance and handling - could Suzuki be about to pull the same trick with the 1000?

Experience of the 2012 BMW S1000RR and Yamaha YZF-R1 and the evidence of riding the 750 suggests people may have been a bit hasty writing off the GSX-R1000. It's not likely to win any track tests but on the road the 750 suggests it could be a different story. Without the electronic gimmicks, the GSX-R1000 stands a chance of being the purist's bike of 2012.

Where the Kawasaki ZX-10R and BMW S1000RR will feel a bit too aggressive on the road the Fireblade, R1 and GSX-R1000 will be the ones enthusiasts turn to. The sports 1000 class is fragmenting between bikes aimed directly at the track and others looking towards the road and usability. The advances in technology inspired by the former are fabulous, but there's a danger the manufacturers are losing sight of the fact most riders spend most of their time on the road. Honda, Yamaha and - as evidenced here - Suzuki seem to have noticed this. Could they have nailed the major trend of 2012 before it happens?


Suzuki GSX-R750
Engine:
750cc 4-cyl
Power: 147hp@13,200rpm
Torque: 63lb ft@11,200rpm
Top speed: 170mph (est.)
Weight: 190kg
MPG: 40 (est.)
Price: £9,899


 

 

 

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PaulMoor

Original Poster:

3,209 posts

163 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Well the Gixer 750 has always been a bike for those "in the know", along with the Ducati 848. Less hardcore than the 600's, in that the geometry tends to be a little less twitchy, longer swing arm, and ergonomics for those of us not built like a Moto GP rider, and a little more managable than the 1000's. Less mental, less weight and less frightening all round.

(Personaly I would go with the 848 in matt black, but only because I could buy some black Denise leathers and a black Arai and pretend that I am cool.)

Battlecat

944 posts

238 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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The GSX-R 750 has been a stunning bike for both road and track for years. The sports bike for the inteligent rider I read somewhere.

It could certainly have a good tussle with the 1000cc bikes on track, particularly on tighter circuits where corner speeds and getting on the throttle quickly made a difference.

Great bikes.

J B L

4,199 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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The purist bike of 2012 will be the Fireblade.

I know there's something for everyone but Suzuki really ought to do something about their styling, whatever the capacity. It's old fashion from afar and a mess close up.

dapearson

4,309 posts

224 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Owned a K5 GSXR-750 for a few months last year. Lovely looking and sounding bike, but didn't really do it for me.

I found it hard to ride smoothly because it was so eager to GO all of the time! Lovely induction roar though.

Maybe i'm a bit old/big for sports bikes. I'll have a ZZR1400 please!

roadwolf

180 posts

156 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Surely the SP1/2 were 1000cc not 750cc.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Gone but not forgotten, fully restored, genuine Yoshi GXSR 1987, oil cooled slab side. Absolutely mental bike and straight line performance was awesome, it would go round bends with a bit of a push.
Unfortunately illness prevented its use and it could be a real pain if not used, also had a dry clutch and other race bits so starting could be a touch difficult - but once it going it was real quick. So I sold it.
Japan gave permission and provided the correct colour scheme once its credentials had been established, now with a collector in UK I think.

Edited by urquattro on Tuesday 3rd January 16:25

sprinter1050

11,550 posts

227 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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roadwolf said:
Surely the SP1/2 were 1000cc not 750cc.
I suspect he means they were built as homologation specials to win the Superbike Championship by beating the Ducatis ?

GSXR 750s always seem cool to me (if cramped) but 147 bhp from a 750 is pretty damned good IYAM

ellisd82

685 posts

208 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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PaulMoor said:
Well the Gixer 750 has always been a bike for those "in the know", along with the Ducati 848. Less hardcore than the 600's, in that the geometry tends to be a little less twitchy, longer swing arm, and ergonomics for those of us not built like a Moto GP rider, and a little more managable than the 1000's. Less mental, less weight and less frightening all round.

(Personaly I would go with the 848 in matt black, but only because I could buy some black Denise leathers and a black Arai and pretend that I am cool.)
Pretty much said it all there!

trickywoo

11,762 posts

230 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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ellisd82 said:
Pretty much said it all there!
Except you can get a black 750 and smoke the Ducati for a fraction of the cost.

blade7

11,311 posts

216 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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Battlecat said:
The GSX-R 750 has been a stunning bike for both road and track for years. The sports bike for the inteligent rider I read somewhere.

PaulMoor

Original Poster:

3,209 posts

163 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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trickywoo said:
Except you can get a black 750 and smoke the Ducati for a fraction of the cost.
If it was my cash i would probably go for the 750, but when it is made up forum £££ cool wins out every time...

podman

8,856 posts

240 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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trickywoo said:
ellisd82 said:
Pretty much said it all there!
Except you can get a black 750 and smoke the Ducati for a fraction of the cost.
I havent checked but I think you'll find they are pretty much in the same ball park cost wise..

Weight wise, their isnt much in it for the 750 or the 1000...

Ive had all manner of GSXR's from the original 1985 model to my most recent model, a K7 1000 in 2007 to 2009...

Ive loved all of them, no doubt the 750 is the purists choice, so much so I bagged myself what I consider to be the real bargain of the family, a 750 SRAD, still great handling with a claimed 135HP from around £1500 for something decent.

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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podman said:
trickywoo said:
ellisd82 said:
Pretty much said it all there!
Except you can get a black 750 and smoke the Ducati for a fraction of the cost.
I havent checked but I think you'll find they are pretty much in the same ball park cost wise..

Weight wise, their isnt much in it for the 750 or the 1000...

Ive had all manner of GSXR's from the original 1985 model to my most recent model, a K7 1000 in 2007 to 2009...

Ive loved all of them, no doubt the 750 is the purists choice, so much so I bagged myself what I consider to be the real bargain of the family, a 750 SRAD, still great handling with a claimed 135HP from around £1500 for something decent.[/quote

]Agree, a good SRAD can be an absolute bargain and a superb machine notwithstanding the mass of electronics packaged in current machines.

Gixer_fan

290 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd January 2012
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I like it! biggrin

3doorPete

9,917 posts

234 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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podman said:
I havent checked but I think you'll find they are pretty much in the same ball park cost wise..

Weight wise, their isnt much in it for the 750 or the 1000...

Ive had all manner of GSXR's from the original 1985 model to my most recent model, a K7 1000 in 2007 to 2009...

Ive loved all of them, no doubt the 750 is the purists choice, so much so I bagged myself what I consider to be the real bargain of the family, a 750 SRAD, still great handling with a claimed 135HP from around £1500 for something decent.
Please let me know if you ever consider selling your SRAD cloud9

_g_

741 posts

201 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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J B L said:
The purist bike of 2012 will be the Fireblade.

I know there's something for everyone but Suzuki really ought to do something about their styling, whatever the capacity. It's old fashion from afar and a mess close up.
Please NO!... if they try and make it anything like recent Honda styling!

I always liked the (SRAD and later) GSXR750s because you were basically getting a sports 600s with the engine the owners actually wanted in so many cases - I've always said, if you want more power, get a bigger bike. Gives you that edge on track without spending silly money refreshing race engines.

JumpinJack

404 posts

178 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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PaulMoor said:
Well the Gixer 750 has always been a bike for those "in the know", along with the Ducati 848. Less hardcore than the 600's, in that the geometry tends to be a little less twitchy, longer swing arm, and ergonomics for those of us not built like a Moto GP rider, and a little more managable than the 1000's. Less mental, less weight and less frightening all round.

(Personaly I would go with the 848 in matt black, but only because I could buy some black Denise leathers and a black Arai and pretend that I am cool.)
But not as cool as ghost rider... who rides a GSXR whistle

trevkx125

9 posts

232 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I have had my SRAD 750 for years, still love it!


digitalrurouni

19 posts

147 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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Loved the SRAD 750 Gixxer as well!

obscene

5,174 posts

185 months

Wednesday 4th January 2012
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I tried one a few months ago and was left wanting a little more power. I think the Fireblade I tested the week before ruined me. I can imagine you could just about thrash a 750 on the road still, or at least use it unlike a 1000. Good bike though.