RE: SOTW: Subaru Forester S-Turbo

RE: SOTW: Subaru Forester S-Turbo

Friday 4th May 2012

SOTW: Subaru Forester S-Turbo

Q: What do you get when you cross an estate car, a 4x4 and an Impreza? A: Today's Shed...



To some, being credited with the invention of the 'crossover' is like being responsible for the creation of a communicable disease - not something to be particularly proud of.

It's a genre that has spawned such vulgarities as the BMW X6 or, further down the scale, weirdness like the Nissan Juke or Honda H-RV.


The crossover concept has also given rise to a wealth of arguably more honest estates-with-a-bit-of-extra-clearance-and-four-wheel-drive, among which you'll find the likes of Skoda Octavia Scouts, Audi Allroads, Saab 9-3Xes and today's Shed of the Week - the first-generation Subaru Forester.

This car has been accused of being the sire of a genre of cars not particularly beloved by enthusiasts, but in truth the original Forester is less of a marketing exercise and more an example of what Subaru does best - simple, ruggedly engineered four-wheel-drive cars, with a healthy dose of practicality thrown in.

As with most Subarus, the Forester is not exactly the prettiest of things but, along with the signature all-wheel drive, the turbocharged boxer four is also there, although giving only a relatively modest 170hp or so. That was always enough to make the Forester an entertaining thing to punt around, however, and certainly more enjoyable than the Volvo XC or Cross Country that was its contemporary.


And while many Imprezas have fallen into the hands of less-than-sympathetic modifiers over the years, that's not something that could be said of the Forester. On the other hand, many of these were bought by Subaru's traditional farming community market, and will have had a pretty hard life of toil as a result.

This particular one might well have been one of those at some point - it's got very little in the way of service history and seems to have been knocked around a little during its 13 years on this earth. It's also got quite a short MOT and tax on it, which is potentially worrying.

It's one to go in with eyes wide open on, then, but if you know what you're doing, and are prepared to take a bit of a punt, it could be quite a bargain...

Don't like this? there are plenty more potential Sheds to tempt you in the PH classifieds...

Advert is reproduced below

1999T Subaru Forester S-Turbo 4x4 AWP (£950)

Taxed till End July / MOT till June 6th.

You are looking my Subaru, used as a commuting and family car by myself since last June. Now selling due to the mileage that I'm now doing - I've bought a diesel instead. Will be sad to see it go!

This is the higher spec "all weather pack" model including headlamp washers, foglamps & double-size electric sunroof, along with the usual refinements (air con, electric windows, central locking & immobiliser etc). It also has a stereo system with aux and USB input (nothing flashy but great for plugging in an iPhone to listen to etc)

The car is in good condition for it's age. There are a fair few blemishes to the exterior. The interior is in nice clean condition, above average for these cars (which often get used on farms etc). I will add some photos at the weekend. There's also a Subaru boot liner and load cover in the rear.

It has a Subaru-supplied stainless exhaust box, and 4x matching Yokohama Geolandar G035 all-season tyres with good tread.

Bad points would be:
- The lacquer is peeling off the alloys, so they don't look great though they all hold pressure perfectly.
- I don't have service history or much paperwork with the car generally.
- Slight suspension knock at the rear.
- Occasionally needs topping up with oil.

Overall this is a bargain of car, with good performance and the ability to plug through mud & snow if necessary. I've done 70 miles per day for almost a year and it hasn't let me down once. Also starts perfectly after being left for a week or more.

Viewing available at weekends only. Please contact me via email anytime, or via phone after 8pm. Please no messers, scammers or silly offers.

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grosserbaby

Original Poster:

142 posts

168 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Nice tip run motor or maybe I could just fancy ditching my company diseasel Legacy and running that, but I think it may be worth spending a little more on a better one.


Shaw Tarse

31,543 posts

203 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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If I had the spare cash, I'd be tempted!

johnpeat

5,326 posts

265 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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I suspect you're staring at a money-pit there - bork of a considerable amount (many times the asking price).

No history isn't terrible with off-road sheds BUT a boxer engine asking for oil is a sign that things are nearing their end.

That he mentions that as almost less important than tatty wheels - erm - well...

BertieWooster

3,275 posts

164 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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I'm being a pedant but the editors might want to change 'and' to 'an' in the Q part of the article header.

Bertie W

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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johnpeat said:
I suspect you're staring at a money-pit there - bork of a considerable amount (many times the asking price).

No history isn't terrible with off-road sheds BUT a boxer engine asking for oil is a sign that things are nearing their end.

That he mentions that as almost less important than tatty wheels - erm - well...
I do see your point there... but if you knew your stuff could you assess the situation with a test drive? I admit it's probably not a chance I would take, however...

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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BertieWooster said:
I'm being a pedant but the editors might want to change 'and' to 'an' in the Q part of the article header.

Bertie W
The editors do, the editors have, and the editors thank you for the spot, Bertie! biggrin

BertieWooster

3,275 posts

164 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Riggers said:
The editors do, the editors have, and the editors thank you for the spot, Bertie! biggrin
Always a pleasure smile

Bertie W

B'stard Child

28,386 posts

246 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Guy at work had one with a problematic heathermillsmatic - he loved it but the fault with the box wasn't going to go away

mpg figures weren't all that good either - I think 20's was as good as it got

He sold it with fault(s) declared and was amazed when he got exactly what he wanted for it £750 (from memory) - turns out buyer was a specialist who broke it for spares as it was worth more in parts.

Different - not my cup of tea and as another PH'r said I'd be worried about a few aspects of the advert but the use abuse and flog on for spares when broken.

cpl_payne

563 posts

183 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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johnpeat said:
... BUT a boxer engine asking for oil is a sign that things are nearing their end.
Is it though? Not doubting your competence, but I was under impression that 'they all do that' (TM). My Legacy 2.0 (non-turbo) certainly has a healthy appetite for oil, but I never considered this could be a sign of a worn engine for that particular model... hmm... need to do some research.

Oh, and (to return back on topic somewhat) Subaru spare part prices are somewhat eye-watering and the alternatives for non-sporty models aren't all that plentiful in my experience.

thinfourth2

32,414 posts

204 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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We have a Mk2 forester and its an excellent car sadly it is only the 2ltr model but i'm half tempted to drop in a nice big turbo engine from something quicker

Doshy

825 posts

217 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Around 2008 when the world went into sub prime disaster I got a letter from my local Subaru garage saying "Buy a new Subaru Forester and get one free" !

teacake

150 posts

191 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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cpl_payne said:
Is it though? Not doubting your competence, but I was under impression that 'they all do that' (TM). My Legacy 2.0 (non-turbo) certainly has a healthy appetite for oil, but I never considered this could be a sign of a worn engine for that particular model... hmm... need to do some research.
Each of the three very high mileage 2.0 Legacies I've had, non-turbo, turbo and twin-turbo, have not consumed a drop of oil between services. Using or losing oil was a sign of a problem - a crankshaft seal on one car and a camshaft seal on another.

thirsty

726 posts

264 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Good SOTW. If this is the type of vehicle you need... buy it, thrash it till it's done and then trash it.

gforceg

3,524 posts

179 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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I've always quite liked these not so much as a "proper" off roader alternative but more as a big estate alternative.

The fact he's had it since June last year and the MOT runs out this June implies to me all I'd need to know about how it's been regarded and used while he's had it.

cpl_payne

563 posts

183 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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teacake said:
Each of the three very high mileage 2.0 Legacies I've had, non-turbo, turbo and twin-turbo, have not consumed a drop of oil between services. Using or losing oil was a sign of a problem - a crankshaft seal on one car and a camshaft seal on another.
Thank you for the useful information! Looks like it's time to have a look for oil leaks... frown

chippy17

3,740 posts

243 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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cpl_payne said:
johnpeat said:
... BUT a boxer engine asking for oil is a sign that things are nearing their end.
Is it though? Not doubting your competence, but I was under impression that 'they all do that' (TM). My Legacy 2.0 (non-turbo) certainly has a healthy appetite for oil, but I never considered this could be a sign of a worn engine for that particular model... hmm... need to do some research.

Oh, and (to return back on topic somewhat) Subaru spare part prices are somewhat eye-watering and the alternatives for non-sporty models aren't all that plentiful in my experience.
my middle of nowhere country hack, a 99MY Turbo wagon, now showing 145k + on clock uses precisely no oil and never has...

J4CKO

41,527 posts

200 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Wouldnt get overly fixated on the oil usage, its an old car, it says to me it is either going through a pint every day or the seller is just being honest as really who would actually admit that if they didnt have to, most cars need a top up occasionally, even some quite new ones, some VAG diesels seem to use it as an alternative source of fuel.

Of course this car is neqaring end of lfe, it is SOTW, Virgin just quoted me £1700 for two weeks hire of an SUV in the states so in context this doesnt seem so bad, if you get 10,000 out of it it is good value, scrap it for £150/200.

lordlee

3,137 posts

245 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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"bought a diesel instead" - hardly suprising if its thirst is anything like as bad the Impreza. They have probably taken 2/3 off their monthly fuel bill in one hit.

Edited by lordlee on Friday 4th May 12:01

jetpilot

242 posts

156 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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The JDM market has had this cross over type thing for years, have a look at the Mitsubishi RVR, more so the Hyper Sports Gear and newer X3, a Evolution with a different wrapper smile

andy43

9,702 posts

254 months

Friday 4th May 2012
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Top shedding. Although that one does sound potentially cabbaged with the oil use being mentioned. Probably shot himself in the foot with that comment hehe
I've had three Forester turbos - 1999, 2000 and 2003 - in between other cars. But I do get bored easily smile
Bought because we need 4wd winter ability, and estate-ness. All autos too.
Great fun for what they are, fairly quick, I have topped up with oil, I'm sure, but no more than anything else at that age. Compared with the Shogun and Landcruiser tonka toys I had to do fulfill the same role and a Forester is way better in all areas except space. Away from traffic lights on wet tarmac you'd surprise anything. Best moment in the last one was up a monster hill in snow, stopping behind then overtaking a £££ Audi Quattro Sales-line that looked like it was about to go backwards. All the kit too - heated screen, rear side windows, monster heater, heated seats, moonroof, great value, and it all works, even at 12 years old.

Now have a 2.5 NA Legacy - better on corners and refinement but I do miss the Foresters' turbos and the more obvious flat 4 throb.

Bah humbug. Got me looking now frown