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dinkel

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24,207 posts

175 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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www.web-cars.com/miura/ferruccio.html

The engine as a whole (ex the car) is a rare beauty and a masterpiece. Some nice info.

Alistair H.

1,169 posts

188 months

Thursday 29th July 2004
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quite simply the best car ever made.

groundbreaking.

dinkel

Original Poster:

24,207 posts

175 months

Friday 30th July 2004
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Muchos nice piccies over here
www.jeffchan.com/cars/concorso2001/index2.html



Check out the V12 behind you!

www.corsaphotos.com/gallery/miura/miura_01

www.anystyle.jp/motormagazine/sample-sc1.html

"MIURA P400
Baujahr: 1966 - 1969 (1967)
Motor: V12
Hubraum: 3939 ccm
PS / KW 350 / 257
Drehmoment: 369 Nm / 5100 upm
Gewicht: 980 Kg
H chstgeschwindigkeit: 280 Km/h / 174 Mph
0 - 100 Km/h 6.7 sek
Damaliger Preis: 19.900
produzierte St ckzahl: 475 "

One piece . . .

yertis

13,340 posts

183 months

Friday 30th July 2004
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Old Lambos are wonderful. There's an Espada over in the classifieds ... sorely tempted to email the chap... but must be strong and resist...

dinkel

Original Poster:

24,207 posts

175 months

Friday 30th July 2004
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yertis said:
Old Lambos are wonderful. There's an Espada over in the classifieds ... sorely tempted to email the chap... but must be strong and resist...


Zeroshifts'? The man is a serious carnut (check out his contemporary TVR museum). I would not look crazy if he took you for a spin when you're around . . . i'm in the bloody Netherlands so . . . . envy, envy, envy and take ur chance.
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zeroshift

8,185 posts

160 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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Dinkel -

Not my Espada - not for sale!

P.

JonRB

51,780 posts

189 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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The trouble with the Miura, as I understand it, is that aerodynamics was a nascent art at the time it was designed. As a result there was quite significant lift at higher speed resulting in almost no steering as the car struggled to avoid flipping over backwards.
Scary indeed.

Wouldn't stop me owning one - I'm sure someone has designed a discrete splitter or undertray for it by now. If not, I'd have to keep the speed down.

>> Edited by JonRB on Monday 9th August 20:04

victormeldrew

8,293 posts

194 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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Shouldn't be too different from a Chim or Griff then!

Matt_T16

3,402 posts

166 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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Transverse V12 with bottom end and transmission casing cast as one. In the 60's............ Fair play my son ;-)

vario-rob

3,034 posts

165 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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zeroshift said:
Dinkel -

Not my Espada - not for sale!

P.


Hats off to the McLaren owner it s been most interesting, an Espada owner now you re really talking.

I ve droned on about my love off these rare beasts in the past far too often but it would be good to hear a little more about the ownership experience in general. Is yours the one that was on the owners club stand at Goodwood? I had a long, informative and really helpful chat with the club chairman, a top chap indeed.

yertis

13,340 posts

183 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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When people, like my wife's friends (to try and involve me in their boring dinner-party conversation)say to me "so Yertis, what is your dream car?" I reply "Lamborghini Espada, preferably Series 2". They look blank so I go and fish out a pic and they just sort of grunt and turn back to how much their house has increased in value in the last six months, and I stare out of the window at the traffic crawling through the damp November evening.

MrFlibbles

6,815 posts

200 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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yertis said:
When people, like my wife's friends (to try and involve me in their boring dinner-party conversation)say to me "so Yertis, what is your dream car?" I reply "Lamborghini Espada, preferably Series 2". They look blank so I go and fish out a pic and they just sort of grunt and turn back to how much their house has increased in value in the last six months, and I stare out of the window at the traffic crawling through the damp November evening.



The lonliness of the car geek!

We've all been there.

v8thunder

27,646 posts

175 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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yertis said:
When people, like my wife's friends (to try and involve me in their boring dinner-party conversation)say to me "so Yertis, what is your dream car?" I reply "Lamborghini Espada, preferably Series 2". They look blank so I go and fish out a pic and they just sort of grunt and turn back to how much their house has increased in value in the last six months, and I stare out of the window at the traffic crawling through the damp November evening.



They probably expected you to say 'a big red one, with shiny wheels.'

I get a similar thing:

'What's your all-time favourite car?'
'An Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato'
'What, like the one in Goldfinger
'err...not quite'
'Yeah, OK, like, whatever'

Damn! Why do people know so little about cars? And why are they seen as boring? And why are house prices so interesting?

Actually, come to think of it, the ladies don't mind if you're talking about them from a style point of view.

Usually.

yertis

13,340 posts

183 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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v8thunder said:


Actually, come to think of it, the ladies don't mind if you're talking about them from a style point of view.

Usually.


I think that's true - the ladies are probably wishing that their husbands hankered after red-blooded classic supercars as well, instead of knowing about house values and driving BMWs.

Thom

1,566 posts

164 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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The way it was built is dreadful.
Cars that have been properly restored have had a full chassis overhaul, which includes adding metal plates in the right places to increase rigidity. Seeing how they were welded makes reconsider wanting to get into such a car on motion.
Also, originally the engine and the gearbox shared the same oil, there were holes drilled between the casings, which lead to major engine catastrophe when pinion bearings broke and got into the engine sump. Hopefully this was corrected on later cars (SVs), as well as the rear section of the chassis.

It's just a shame that the underneath were such unbelievable crap and poorly executed build, as this is one of the best looking cars in the world, if not the best one ... :sigh:



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rico

7,916 posts

172 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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Man oh man. The Miura is the one car i really aspire to own.

It's just perfect in my eyes.

I've seen a green SV at an Italian concourse event a couple of years back, and recently a Miura SVJ at the Louis Vuitton Classic.

Heaven

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

193 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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JonRB said:
The trouble with the Miura, as I understand it, is that aerodynamics was a nascent art at the time it was designed.


Hardly nascent just unapplied in the case in question.

Gazboy

51,760 posts

168 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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v8thunder said:

yertis said:
When people, like my wife's friends (to try and involve me in their boring dinner-party conversation)say to me "so Yertis, what is your dream car?" I reply "Lamborghini Espada, preferably Series 2". They look blank so I go and fish out a pic and they just sort of grunt and turn back to how much their house has increased in value in the last six months, and I stare out of the window at the traffic crawling through the damp November evening.




They probably expected you to say 'a big red one, with shiny wheels.'

I get a similar thing:

'What's your all-time favourite car?'
'An Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato'
'What, like the one in Goldfinger
'err...not quite'
'Yeah, OK, like, whatever'

Damn! Why do people know so little about cars? And why are they seen as boring?


Sorry, but just to justify your point, you are gonna have to put up a pic of a DB4 Zagato, cos I'm clueless!

You have to realise Sam, that not everyone is a) a bottomless pit of knowledge about cars & b) may not even like older cars. You mentioned some the other day, and I wouldn't know them even if I had to climb over one to get to my jap tin box.
Diffrent strokes for different folks.

v8thunder

27,646 posts

175 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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I know a guy who owns one, actually, and unfortunately it's not that useable past, say, 110 mph, because the steering goes all light and the front end starts to lift. And it's one of those cars that is more likely to break down the more you use it.

Believe it or not, a better Lamborghini of this era to own is the Urraco. Easier fuel consumption to live with, and other than the cambelt services, about 700 a year to run. And it costs 15,000 for a minter.

OK, so no-one will recognise it(looks like a Miura with an LP400 Countach front end), but you can go round at parties telling everyone who'll listen that you have a Lamborghini.

v8thunder

27,646 posts

175 months

Monday 9th August 2004
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Gazboy said:


v8thunder said:



yertis said:
When people, like my wife's friends (to try and involve me in their boring dinner-party conversation)say to me "so Yertis, what is your dream car?" I reply "Lamborghini Espada, preferably Series 2". They look blank so I go and fish out a pic and they just sort of grunt and turn back to how much their house has increased in value in the last six months, and I stare out of the window at the traffic crawling through the damp November evening.






They probably expected you to say 'a big red one, with shiny wheels.'

I get a similar thing:

'What's your all-time favourite car?'
'An Aston Martin DB4 GT Zagato'
'What, like the one in Goldfinger
'err...not quite'
'Yeah, OK, like, whatever'

Damn! Why do people know so little about cars? And why are they seen as boring?




Sorry, but just to justify your point, you are gonna have to put up a pic of a DB4 Zagato, cos I'm clueless!

You have to realise Sam, that not everyone is a) a bottomless pit of knowledge about cars & b) may not even like older cars. You mentioned some the other day, and I wouldn't know them even if I had to climb over one to get to my jap tin box.
Diffrent strokes for different folks.



Woah, OK OK, I know that, it's just that actually when someone says 'what's your favourite car' you may think they might actually want to talk about cars, or know a thing or two.

Actually, for arguments' sake when I'm talking to people who I know don't know anything about cars I usually say the Chevrolet Corvette, 'cos everyone knows what that is.

Anyway, here's the DB4 GT Zagato: www.astonmartins.com/np6c/db4gt_zag.htm

And I don't bore people to death with the details either, in fact most people like the fact that I say they're all unique and hand-made in Milan

>> Edited by v8thunder on Monday 9th August 23:20