RE: You Know You Want To: Porsche 953 rally drivetrain

RE: You Know You Want To: Porsche 953 rally drivetrain

Wednesday 11th July 2012

You Know You Want To: Porsche 953 rally drivetrain

Yes, it's a rag-bag assembly of old Porsche bits, but it's a very cool rag-bag assembly of old Porsche bits...



This is one for dreamers obsessed with some of the most bonkers Porsche 911s ever built.

You find some strange automotive stuff on eBay, but this really takes the spanner. What's being sold is a pair of the four-wheel-drive systems from the Porsche 953, which entered and won the Paris-Dakar in 1984.


Not even an engine - just the gearbox, front and rear differentials, central driveshaft. Oh, and a gearlever on one of them.

At this point you might be asking why exactly you would want to buy them... Well, for a start these bits of metal are the precursor to the now-established 911 Carrera 4. After surviving the worst that North Africa could throw at them, the cars finished first and sixth (the latter with Jacky Ickx), and they persuaded Porsche that all-wheel-drive made sense for its legendary sports car.

Buy these and you could recreate the 1984 race winner from a standard Carrera. Raise the ride height, slap on some Rothmans livery and you'd have an awe-inspiring replica with a bona fide Dakar drivetrain. It's certainly cheaper than buying a genuine 953 - the Ickx car sold for $185,000 (£118,000) back in 2004.

They were also stuck under the 959 supercar for the following Dakar, but when none finished, Porsche upgraded the mechanical 4x4 system to an electronically controlled one for 1986 and finished first, second and sixth.


So where on earth did these come from? We emailed the seller and got the story. These are spares from the original 1984 rally, never before used. They were originally bought from Porsche (along with a 953) by Alan Hamilton, son of Mr Porsche Australia, the original importer Norman Hamilton.

Hamilton Jr eventually flogged them to Australian Porsche nut David Cavanagh, who has competed in both the London-Sydney Rally and East African Safari Rally in an original works Porsche 911.

"I thought it would be good to do Paris-Dakar in a Porsche some day, with these transmissions as the heart of the machine," David tells PistonHeads. "However, with work and family commitments and other projects ongoing, I thought I should give someone else the opportunity."

He's estimates they're worth about £20,000, which is a lot of money for something that looks like scrap metal. Turn your imagination up to 11, however, and you can hear Moroccan camel grass brushing past at 100mph.


Porsche 953 Dakar drivetrains
Price:
£20,000 (estimate)
Why you should: You can create a replica of the bonkers off-roader 911.
Why you shouldn't: It's cheaper to buy a Cayenne Turbo.

 

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sanctum

Original Poster:

191 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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Articles like this are why I hate the rise of the internet.
It just fuels the internal turmoil of inner demon vs happy marriage...

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I had a ride in one of these (or similar) rally Porsches last month. Was an odd experience being at a petrol station in a car like this, everyone was taking pics including myself from inside the car.


Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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sanctum said:
Articles like this are why I hate the rise of the internet.
It just fuels the internal turmoil of inner demon vs happy marriage...
We aim to please! biggrin

fatboy69

9,371 posts

187 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I spend hours on PH & pratting about on the internet. SWMBO gets very annoyed with me. Do i care? No. So long as I can log onto PH & dream when I read articles such as this.

Bloody internet.........

Chris71

21,536 posts

242 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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I'm never sure what to think when I see a Dakar Porsche. They're such awesome machines that I can't help but want one. Yet, on the other hand, it seems ever so slightly wrong to go bouncing over sand dunes in a 911-derivative.

I'd have no such qualms in this:

anything fast

983 posts

164 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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They were also stuck under the 959 supercar for the following Dakar, but when none finished, Porsche upgraded the mechanical 4x4 system to an electronically controlled one for 1986 and finished first, second and sixth.


err so they are scrap metal then? £20,000.. must be a slow news day tumbleweed

Hoppelemine

267 posts

171 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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The article starts by telling us that these parts came from the car that competed in the rally. A little later we are told that the parts are spares that were never used. A little contradictory I think?

M666 EVO

1,124 posts

162 months

Wednesday 11th July 2012
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That is an epic waste of money. Crazy-sheet.com

Twincam16

27,646 posts

258 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Chris71 said:
I'm never sure what to think when I see a Dakar Porsche. They're such awesome machines that I can't help but want one. Yet, on the other hand, it seems ever so slightly wrong to go bouncing over sand dunes in a 911-derivative.
Oh I dunno. If that old wag's line about a Porsche 911 just being a VW Beetle with a couple more cylinders has any truth in it, then the 911 Allrad and 959 were just Porsche making their own beach-buggy.

Riggers

1,859 posts

178 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Hoppelemine said:
The article starts by telling us that these parts came from the car that competed in the rally. A little later we are told that the parts are spares that were never used. A little contradictory I think?
Not really - they were spares that were part of the package of the car. If it makes it a little clearer, I've changed:

"What's being sold is a pair of the four-wheel-drive systems from the Porsche 953 that entered and won the Paris-Dakar in 1984"

to

"What's being sold is a pair of the four-wheel-drive systems from the Porsche 953, which entered and won the Paris-Dakar in 1984"

So the sentence now talks about the whole 953 model, rather than a specific car...

urquattro

755 posts

186 months

Thursday 12th July 2012
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Rather have the other variation of Porsche 4wd, the RS2, got minebiggrin