VAT registration query

[bmwdrivernigel]

Chaps, is it possible to find out if a Ltd company is VAT registered?

[Eric Mc]

If it is VAT registered, it should be quoting its VAT No. on its invoices.

[bmwdrivernigel]

Thanks Eric, I have an invoice but no VAT or company reg numbers shown. No vat on invoice total either...

[Simpo Two]

'Hello, are you VAT registered please?'

[singlecoil]

Sounds like they are not registered. Are they asking you for VAT?

[bmwdrivernigel]

I'm not being asked to pay VAT but have been invoiced by someone who I think should be registered. Having received an invoice that shows very few details I want to check that the invoice is correct legally before I raise concerns.

TIA

[Simpo Two]

I'm not clear why you want to 'raise concerns'. Do you want them to say 'Oh yes, sorry, that'll be another 20% please'?

Frankly if you think the bill is reasonable I'd pay it. If they ARE VAT registered they'll still have to pay VAT to HMRC - but out of the amount you paid, not extra. Their problem not yours I feel.

[Cyberprog]

Are you VAT registered yourself? If so, it's easy enough to ask them if they are also VAT registered, but they may well be under the threshold themselves...

[Doofus]

Simpo Two said:

Their problem not yours.

WHS

[bmwdrivernigel]

So, I take it that unless I ask the person/s concerned directly there is no way of checking?

[LooneyTunes]

Simpo Two said:

I'm not clear why you want to 'raise concerns'. Do you want them to say 'Oh yes, sorry, that'll be another 20% please'?

Or, speculating, could be a competitor who he thinks is gaining a competitive advantage by not charging VAT?

[joewilliams]

Ring the vat office and ask them. We've done this when a company was quoting the vat number of another company controlled by the same director.

[Eric Mc]

bmwdrivernigel said:

So, I take it that unless I ask the person/s concerned directly there is no way of checking?

Why would you want to know?

[VERN UK]

bmwdrivernigel said:

Thanks Eric, I have an invoice but no VAT or company reg numbers shown. No vat on invoice total either...

The invoice is not legal or correct anyhow, if they are Ltd the invoice has to show a company reg no, and a registerd office address! Also a Vat no. If they are vat registerd etc

[Eric Mc]

Is the entity a limited comnpany?

And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).

[raptor600]

Eric Mc said:

And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).

It must still show a VAT number though.

[Eric Mc]

raptor600 said:

Eric Mc said:

And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).

It must still show a VAT number though.

Of course - but only IF they are VAT registered.

[Doofus]

And to Eric's point; if they don't show a VAT nunmber, it's their problem, not the OPs.

If the OP owes them £100 and they invoice him for £100, even if they should have broken out the VAT, it doesn't change the fact that the OP owes them £100.

[TooLateForAName]

But if the op is VAT registered, it does make a difference to the OP.

[raptor600]

Eric Mc said:

raptor600 said:

Eric Mc said:

And there are lower disclosure requirements for small value invoices (under £250).

It must still show a VAT number though.

Of course - but only IF they are VAT registered.

I know. So what have lower disclosure requirements got to do with anything?

OP - just ring them up and ask. If you suspect foul play then ring HMRC and get them to confirm?