Parking across my own dropped kerb - with a white line.

[apguy]

I've recently moved and now have a garage, with a dropped kerb outside. On the remainder of the road it's double yellow lines, but across my dropped kerb there are no yellow lines but a single white line with T bar terminators at each end.

So my simple question is: Can I park on the road, in front of my garage?

Thanks.

[CapriV6S]

No you cant, you'll only block your wifes car from leaving the garage. Park in front of someone elses garage.

[R0G]

Legally yes you can

As previous poster says - blocking your wifes car in will be worse than getting any legal fine !!!!!!!

[apguy]

Ta muchly, and you will be very pleased to know that my cars are already inside the garage, I just wanted to know if it was alright to direct visitors to park outside on the rare occasions that other parking was unavailable.

[streaky]

apguy said:

Ta muchly, and you will be very pleased to know that my cars are already inside the garage, I just wanted to know if it was alright to direct visitors to park outside on the rare occasions that other parking was unavailable.

That isn't what you asked!

Streaky

[Red Devil]

apguy said:

I've recently moved and now have a garage, with a dropped kerb outside. On the remainder of the road it's double yellow lines, but across my dropped kerb there are no yellow lines but a single white line with T bar terminators at each end.

So my simple question is: Can I park on the road, in front of my garage?

Provided you don't haved a shared driveway, no problem.
See Section 14(4) London Local Authorities and Transport Act 2003.
and
Section 86(3) Traffic Management Act 2004

[Nightmare]

Well I've recently paid a parking fine for one of my guys who was parked in exactly that scenario, at a customers house and at his request while spraying his car. Council fine for parking on a dropped kerb.

May not be remotely relevant but thought I'd mention it

[prand]

I would have thought that a traffic warden would find it impossible to tell if it was your car parked in front of your drive so would give you a ticket anyway?

[chriscpritchard]

prand said:

I would have thought that a traffic warden would find it impossible to tell if it was your car parked in front of your drive so would give you a ticket anyway?

Yes, but you have a very easy appeal (IE, get the owners of the house to write and say it was fine as per the relevant legislation)

[ewenm]

I presume there isn't a matching dropped kerb and white line on the opposite side of the road, which could suggest it's intended as a wheelchair/pram crossing point?

[Red Devil]

Nightmare said:

Well I've recently paid a parking fine for one of my guys who was parked in exactly that scenario, at a customers house and at his request while spraying his car. Council fine for parking on a dropped kerb.

May not be remotely relevant but thought I'd mention it

Unfortunately another example of not knowing the legislation and the available exemptions resulting in somebody's wallet being lightened.

The CEO was probably not conversant either. LAs frequently sub-contract the job and given that he/she will be expected by his/her supervisor to meet a target for that shift, probably couldn't give a flying anyway.

[bigandclever]

Please correct me if I'm wrong... my understanding is that H bars are advisory only, and that they're a good deterrent but not actually enforceable. The point of them is that they illustrate a possible obstruction, and BiB can act on that. That's what Reading council told me anyway.

[14-7]

Red Devil said:

Unfortunately another example of not knowing the legislation and the available exemptions resulting in somebody's wallet being lightened.

The CEO was probably not conversant either. LAs frequently sub-contract the job and given that he/she will be expected by his/her supervisor to meet a target for that shift, probably couldn't give a flying anyway.

Can you enlighten the rest of us to the legislation that states you can park over a dropped kerb if the entrance you are blocking is your own?

[Deva Link]

apguy said:

I've recently moved and now have a garage, with a dropped kerb outside. On the remainder of the road it's double yellow lines, but across my dropped kerb there are no yellow lines but a single white line with T bar terminators at each end.

Surely the double yellows are to prevent the road being obstructed, so if you (or a visitor ) park on the single white line at your drive then the vehicle is still going to be obstructing the road?

Edited by Deva Link on Tuesday 24th July 23:42

[Deva Link]

Nightmare said:

Well I've recently paid a parking fine for one of my guys who was parked in exactly that scenario, at a customers house and at his request while spraying his car. Council fine for parking on a dropped kerb.

May not be remotely relevant but thought I'd mention it

Was that ON the dropped kerb, or AT the dropped kerb? Was he obstructing the footpath?

[Nightmare]

nope, definitely not obstructing the footpath.....if anyone's really interested I could find the pen notice which had a photo on it...maybe there will be something in that which would show its a different situation!

[Red Devil]

14-7 said:

Red Devil said:

Unfortunately another example of not knowing the legislation and the available exemptions resulting in somebody's wallet being lightened.

The CEO was probably not conversant either. LAs frequently sub-contract the job and given that he/she will be expected by his/her supervisor to meet a target for that shift, probably couldn't give a flying anyway.

Can you enlighten the rest of us to the legislation that states you can park over a dropped kerb if the entrance you are blocking is your own?

Of course. Did you not notice my other post further up this page?

Red Devil said:

Provided you don't haved a shared driveway, no problem.
See Section 14(4) London Local Authorities and Transport Act 2003.
and
Section 86(3) Traffic Management Act 2004

[Red Devil]

bigandclever said:

Please correct me if I'm wrong... my understanding is that H bars are advisory only, and that they're a good deterrent but not actually enforceable. The point of them is that they illustrate a possible obstruction, and BiB can act on that. That's what Reading council told me anyway.

Most probably, except where one is adjacent to a dropped kerb. In that case, subject to the exception mentioned in my post above, you can be served with a PCN by the LA - Contravention Code 27 - which will be enforceable.

[Nightmare]

Red Devil said:

Unfortunately another example of not knowing the legislation and the available exemptions resulting in somebody's wallet being lightened.

The CEO was probably not conversant either. LAs frequently sub-contract the job and given that he/she will be expected by his/her supervisor to meet a target for that shift, probably couldn't give a flying anyway.

I was bloody certain it was wrong as well.....and wrote to contest. The next thing was two bailiffs turning up at my house asking for £350.00 Council had no record of my disagreement apparently. which was convenient.
Bailiffs were nice chaps though!

[apguy]

Deva Link said:

Surely the double yellows are to prevent the road being obstructed, so if you (or a visitor ) park on the single white line at your drive then the vehicle is still going to be obstructing the road?

Edited by Deva Link on Tuesday 24th July 23:42

Well I appreciate the rolled eyes, but you neither know my garage arrangement nor the road in question. So to assist in your understanding:

Mine is the garage on the right with the white line outside it. Google StreetView managed to snap the picture before the ever zealous and car hating Brighton & Hove council painted the unrequired double yellow lines.

Edited by apguy on Wednesday 27th March 17:46