RE: Monkey's F1 Predictor

RE: Monkey's F1 Predictor

Friday 14th September 2012

Monkey's F1 Predictor

Who'll be where for the 2013 F1 season? Here's Chris Harris's guesswork, sorry, informed view on the matter.



The F1 driver market shouldn’t be as interesting as it is, but who-goes-where remains compelling news. As does un-qualified guesswork on the subject. Here’s mine.

The big one of course is, will Lewis leave McLaren for Mercedes? It's entirely possible. The dream team of Ron and his chosen one should have delivered more than it has since 2007. Perhaps now’s the time for a break and some new Twitter accounts.

And Mercedes might be looking for another driver.

A Merc shoe-in?
A Merc shoe-in?
Surely the Lewis/Merc thing hinges on the 2014 engine regs? If Mercedes can persuade Lewis that they’ll have a dump-valve-popping-monster-motor for that season, one which Adrian Newey has already stated will be all about power, then those surely would be grounds to move?

Will McLaren still run Mercedes engines in 2014? No idea. They had a reasonably successful relationship in the 80s with some people called Honda – and it was based around turbochargers. McLaren Honda – that still sounds right somehow. Pure conjecture, but as of today there are three engine suppliers signed-up for the 1.6 litre 'new dawn': Mercedes, Ferrari and Renault. Of the three, I’d say Mercedes has the biggest and possibly the best R&D resources for this project.

But others are sure to join: I pray one of them is Honda. Nothing warms the cockles like the sight of a Honda engineer in virginal white paddock fashion, busily fussing and plugging things into data ports. It’s been too long.

He may know something
He may know something
Of course, Michael Schumacher has to leave Mercedes to allow Lewis to arrive – and that does look like the situation. Bernie’s hilariously indiscreet interview at Spa effectively announced Schumacher’s second retirement. The speed and sincerity of the denial from MS means Bernie’s utterance must be true, no?

Now for the juicy part of armchair silly season: a stream of unfounded and partially idiotic assumptions.

Schumacher leaves Mercedes. Lewis goes to Mercedes. Martin Whitmarsh asks Ron for the company cheque-book, but who does he go for? The no-brain choice is Paul Di Resta – or rather it was, because despite a very impressive first season and a half in F1, his massively quick team mate Nico Hulkenberg has just begun to shade him for raw pace. But then Paul’s KERS always seems to be on the blink.

Where’s Nico Rosberg in all this? No idea. Di Resta has been a part of the wider Mercedes-Benz Motorsport family since his DTM days, but German manufacturers tend to like German drivers, and that benefits Nico – assuming of course that Mercedes remains an engine supplier to McLaren who, incidentally, have for the first time just started paying for their lovely Mercedes 2.4 litre V8s.

What about Ricciardo? I came back from the Monaco race weekend on the same easyJet flight as him, so he must be pretty cheap. That will appeal to Ron, who doesn’t like wasting cash.

Peter Sauber tests Kobie comms
Peter Sauber tests Kobie comms
Now, if McLaren changed engine supplier, perhaps to Honda, then the team might like to have a Japanese driver. That could lead to the quite delicious possibility of Ron Dennis attempting to tell Kamui Kobayashi to calm-the-bastard-down into 130R. Kamui, being the most exciting thing on four wheels, will hopefully ignore the message. See, I’m already constructing imaginary conversations between Ron and Kamui in a team called McLaren Honda! This is way more fun than real motorsport journalism.

Red Bull’s jockey situation is sorted for next year, a parity that must have both sides questioning getting their houses in order so early in the season. Mark Webber’s had a dismal run of form pretty much from the minute he announced his 2013 deal, and Vettel wants a faster car.

The hunt for Red Guff
The hunt for Red Guff
Luca De Montezemelo, genetically incapable of missing an opportunity to be impish, yesterday said that Vettel would be most welcome at Ferrari. He’s been saying the same thing for a while now. When Fernando finally got past Sebastian last week, and the German-finger-mouse watched the F2012 disappear into the distance, he probably wondered what he’d done wrong. Consecutive World Championships, and now he’s fighting for the lower sections of the podium and making adverts for shit SUVs.

But Sebastian is not available for any team other than Red Bull next year. Which means we’ll probably see him in a Ferrari. Or a McLaren Hyundai in 2014.

Perez to Ferrari? Looks logical, but then like the interior of a 1984 Testarossa, not everything at Maranello works according to logic. Luca thinks he doesn’t have enough experience – which seems unfair given his mature performances this year. And even though poor Felipe has somewhat improved his form in the past few races, he remains just that, generically known as ‘poor Felipe’. An F1 driver with an unfortunate prefix and diminished speed is surely less desirable than a young Mexican who looks suspiciously like Pedro Rodriguez and who appears to have similar natural sparkle? He’s even on the young Ferrari Driver Clienti Manettino Spumanti Programme, so he should be ‘in’ like Daniel Craig in a convent.

Look into my eyes, not around the eyes
Look into my eyes, not around the eyes
But, sadly for Sergio, Luca is secretly luring Michael Schumacher to Maranello one last time, to bid his final arrivederci with the Scuderia. Isn’t he? Well, even if he isn’t it would be effing marvelous if he was, and it would clear up the name of the racy 458 street car we’re expecting next year: The 458 Michael. That kind of works, doesn’t it? In comes Perez for 2014 as MS heads back to retirement, or falling off motorcycles as it's sometimes known.

Remember Robert Kubica? He won a rally last weekend, which must prove that he still stands an outside chance of racing in F1 again. Ferrari did once have an option on him, then again, for all the vodka and significant silences, they still love Kimi – their last World Champion. Could he make a return to Ferrari and, more to the point, could he be arsed to board the flight to engage in negotiations? All we know is that F1 is miles, miles better with him in the script. Incidentally, he’s doing well at Lotus because they provide him with exactly what he wants: the biggest caps and shades in the paddock.

With car sales on the floor, Renault can barely justify staying in F1 without a French driver, and despite being a bit crashy into the first corner, Grosjean’s speed more than justifies his place in the team. So, we have to assume that in 2013 Renault Lotus Renault Renault, er, Lotus will remain unchanged. Particularly in the sense that all of us will continue to be baffled by the Lotus bit. Anyone got any Benetton stickers?

Finnish line
Finnish line
The lower ranks provide less amusing speculation because transfers are governed by boring things like money. Will Kovalainen jump back up into a better team? He’s so respected at Caterham his steering wheel has one more button than Petrov’s. Little known fact that.

Heikki is good enough to be plonked into a fast car and be quick. In fact almost all of the irritatingly talented sods are good enough to do that – a fact that most of us would do well to remember when we point and laugh at the unfortunates lurking under blue flags.

Where were we?

Oh yes, Sauber. F1’s petri dish for the propagation of F1 talent. It’s quite possible Peter Sauber could lose both of his drivers over the coming months, which seems mighty unfair, but the Ferrari Signatori Ravioli Training Academy will feed him more young pups, and he’s a master at scouting the lower formulae: Valsecchi anyone? Mind you, Mercedes could then take young Cecotto and produce a special edition C63 in his name to blow raspberries at BMW. By my calculations, about nine of you might get that last gag.

Pastor Maldonado is apparently a very nice chap, but he looks completely terrifying to me, so I’m just going to say that he’s very fast and deserves to stay with Sir Frank Ltd. He can also give the impression of being an accident waiting to happen, but I didn’t say that. Bruno is slowly getting it together, but his team-mate has shaded him this year, and that’s tough to come back from.

Wolffish look
Wolffish look
Like Sauber, Williams are scouters, they’ll want fresh meat. Susie Wolff for a curvier pit lane in 2013? Great for the sport, and there’s even some gratuitous, smutty sexism in that last sentence, but I just can’t see it yet. The drive, that is.

That leaves us where, exactly?

With no real idea of what’s going to happen. But if any of this tommy-rot does come true, I will be buying myself a Shandy Bass and some Nobby’s Nuts by way of congratulation.

Happy Armchairing, one and all.

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umRacing

Original Poster:

20 posts

140 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Now that made me laugh!

Ma Qing Hua could replace Lewis, I am sure his sponsorship would pay for the mercedes engine invoice smile!

Personally I think the drivers will lose their leverage to demand such vast sums of money from its employer over the next few years and Lewis will be extremely financially secure for years to come if Mercedes give him what he wants. Either that or he will be the one doing adverts for sh** SUV's!

As personable as they are (raikkonen perhaps not included) racing drivers are not infinitely marketable.

Edited by umRacing on Friday 14th September 15:56

pattieG

196 posts

149 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Stop sniffing the pump while you fill up!

EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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If the General Motorsport threads are anything to go by...

INB4 HAMILTON BASHING!

I'm predicting very little change for next year.

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Best bit of F1 related journalism I've read all year.

P-Jay

10,564 posts

191 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Oh someone please give Hekki a better car.

pw32

1,032 posts

198 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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I could pretend to follow the logic until you got to Wolf, someone struggling in DTM....lol. Then I knew you were having a laugh. Still a good mind read.


morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Chuckled to myself quite a bit but burst out laughing at

Article said:
Incidentally, he’s doing well at Lotus because they provide him with exactly what he wants: the biggest caps and shades in the paddock.
I love Kimi! rofl

civicduty

1,857 posts

203 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Edited to add cheeky shot of car after penalltimate had looked it up

Second edit to find name of poster who looked up the info

Edited by civicduty on Friday 14th September 16:39


Edited by civicduty on Friday 14th September 16:41

Roo

11,503 posts

207 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Very good Monkey.

R11ysf

1,936 posts

182 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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EDLT said:
If the General Motorsport threads are anything to go by...

INB4 HAMILTON BASHING!
That's funny as the very first thing I thought when I saw the photo is why the juddering fk is Lewis wearing sunglasses for a grid photo. We all know Kimi doesn't give a toss but i bet Lewis was just trying to be "cool". I wonder if Simon Fuller told him to wear it scratchchin

OlberJ

14,101 posts

233 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Could you stop throwing in a random "sh!t" to every piece you do Monkey?

It's the way you talk, fine, me too. But it just smacks of contraversialism for the sake of it. Wee bit cringey.

Like your musings though, it would be nice to see Honda back and bringing something different to the table.

bobbo89

5,210 posts

145 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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'a young Mexican who looks suspiciously like Pedro Rodriguez and who appears to have similar natural sparkle'

rofl

How have a not seen this sooner!!

penalltimate

3 posts

150 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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"Mind you, Mercedes could then take young Cecotto and produce a special edition C63 in his name to blow raspberries at BMW. By my calculations, about nine of you might get that last gag."

In the year 1989 two limited edition BMW M3 models were presented. The cars were given the names of skilled M3 race drivers: Cecotto en Ravaglia.
The "Cecotto" model was built 505 times for the European market and the "Ravaglia" was built 25 times for the British market. These models obtained the highest specification M3 engine, 16" BBS light alloy wheels, a lightened booth lid, power windows and some other goodies in the interior.
Technical data
Four cylinder in-line engine, DOHC, 16 valves
(type S14 B23 M-power)
cylinder capacity: 2302 cc.
Bosch ML Motronic injection system
capacity: 215 DIN bhp. at 6750 rpm.
torque: 230 Nm at 4600 rpm.
gearbox: 5-speed, manual, close ratio
rear wheel drive, 25% limited slip differential
brakes: disk brakes all round, vented at the front
weight: 1200 kg.

Can't claim credit - Grabbed that from here; http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.ph...

Monkey - Surely Ralf Schumi is going to Mercedes ? If only.

derboy

5 posts

150 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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Pastor Maldonado = the school bully. If he didnt have his huge venezuelan chequebook he'd have to go.

ZX10Ben

53 posts

141 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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As mentioned above, I can't see much changing for next year. I'd be amazed if Lewis leaves McLaren for Mercedes with the current performance of each car, I heard something a while back about Ron saying that we were in different economic times when Lewis’ other contracts were negotiated, so I think it’s just a load of posturing to try and get a better contract that will ultimately see him sitting in exactly the same place next season.

Slight change of topic…. Anyone know if there is a current power limit on the F1 engines? Just looking at Monkey’s initial comments about Mercedes having a “dump-valve-popping-monster-motor for that season” and Adrian Newey saying it will all be about power. Just wondered if each manufacturer is free to develop each power plant as much as they like as long as it complies with the rules?...

EifelSL

48 posts

155 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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I think Suzie Wolf could get a drive at Willis as her husband Toto is a director of Willis. She keeps her drive in the Mercedes DTM team because he's also a director of HWA. Oh what a tangled web we weave.

McSam

6,753 posts

175 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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morgs_ said:
EifelSL said:
I think Suzie Wolf could get a drive at Willis as her husband Toto is a director of Willis. She keeps her drive in the Mercedes DTM team because he's also a director of HWA. Oh what a tangled web we weave.
Talking of tangled webs, why are there people posting in here about DTM? confused
I think it'd have been clearer if he said Susie Wolff could get a drive with Williams F1, because her husband is a board member.

STiG911

1,210 posts

167 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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By far the best not-written-by-Martin-Brundle F1 piece this year.

Oh, and no-one needs the original Ralf 'Crash' Schumacher back, thanks.

Edited by STiG911 on Monday 17th September 09:17

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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ZX10Ben said:
Slight change of topic…. Anyone know if there is a current power limit on the F1 engines? Just looking at Monkey’s initial comments about Mercedes having a “dump-valve-popping-monster-motor for that season” and Adrian Newey saying it will all be about power. Just wondered if each manufacturer is free to develop each power plant as much as they like as long as it complies with the rules?...
Guessing here, but I think the limit is something like 650bhp, so it could be something to do with how much power they dare give the engine (or use) in terms of reliability.

morgs_

1,663 posts

187 months

Friday 14th September 2012
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McSam said:
morgs_ said:
EifelSL said:
I think Suzie Wolf could get a drive at Willis as her husband Toto is a director of Willis. She keeps her drive in the Mercedes DTM team because he's also a director of HWA. Oh what a tangled web we weave.
Talking of tangled webs, why are there people posting in here about DTM? confused
I think it'd have been clearer if he said Susie Wolff could get a drive with Williams F1, because her husband is a board member.
Damn you and your quick quoting laugh

Realised just after I made the post lol.