A few questions re: c.2007 V8 Vantage purchase
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Hi guys,
New member here. I'm looking at purchasing one of the above cars upto a budget of £40k. I've had a read through the forums but still have a few questions I would like a bit of help with if you could spare a few moments. Some probably very basic but I am new to all of this, so my apologies if they have been answered ad nauseum and I'm being lazy.
Ok, so..
1) I was initially looking at coupe's but took out a stunning looking ragtop recently just to test out the sport shift and it kind of changed my mind. For an identical year/spec/mileage car, what kind of premium are you typically looking at paying for a roadster over a coupe? Same question for a sport shift over a manual. anything to look out for with earlier roadsters? or coupe's?
2) As far as resale values are concerned, what type would typically hold the value better e.g manual coupe vs. roadster/sport shift etc. What are considered essential options? (Ignoring trying to sell a roadster on a sunny day in May versus a wet day in November and buying a bright yellow car etc etc).
3) Again, probably how long Is a piece of string, but for both sport shift and manual what is a ballpark figure for clutch life in terms of mileage (I understand this figure will vary massively). But on a hypothetical 40k mileage car... What would you be thinking? What would you be looking out for if buying one of these?
4) If buying from a dealer, what are they typically willing to throw into the deal as far as sweeteners go e.g extending warranties, free servicing, etc. If I buy a car on relatively high miles on the first clutch is anybody going to throw me a 2 year warranty that covers a clutch as well if I push hard enough or is he just going to laugh me out of the showroom?
5) Last one.. As you can probably guess, this is my first foray into buying something a bit special. Have quite unique (but not necessarily bad) circumstances so lot of insurers are struggling to give me a quote that's not absolutely silly. Spoke to Nowell Richards who put the details through to an underwriter who gave me a much better quote than anybody else but just wondering if anyone else had any recommendations as far as insurers go to see if I can knock a few more quid off??
Anything else you feel I should be aware of then please feel free to mention.
Many thanks for reading and look forward to your replies.
Cheers.
New member here. I'm looking at purchasing one of the above cars upto a budget of £40k. I've had a read through the forums but still have a few questions I would like a bit of help with if you could spare a few moments. Some probably very basic but I am new to all of this, so my apologies if they have been answered ad nauseum and I'm being lazy.
Ok, so..
1) I was initially looking at coupe's but took out a stunning looking ragtop recently just to test out the sport shift and it kind of changed my mind. For an identical year/spec/mileage car, what kind of premium are you typically looking at paying for a roadster over a coupe? Same question for a sport shift over a manual. anything to look out for with earlier roadsters? or coupe's?
2) As far as resale values are concerned, what type would typically hold the value better e.g manual coupe vs. roadster/sport shift etc. What are considered essential options? (Ignoring trying to sell a roadster on a sunny day in May versus a wet day in November and buying a bright yellow car etc etc).
3) Again, probably how long Is a piece of string, but for both sport shift and manual what is a ballpark figure for clutch life in terms of mileage (I understand this figure will vary massively). But on a hypothetical 40k mileage car... What would you be thinking? What would you be looking out for if buying one of these?
4) If buying from a dealer, what are they typically willing to throw into the deal as far as sweeteners go e.g extending warranties, free servicing, etc. If I buy a car on relatively high miles on the first clutch is anybody going to throw me a 2 year warranty that covers a clutch as well if I push hard enough or is he just going to laugh me out of the showroom?
5) Last one.. As you can probably guess, this is my first foray into buying something a bit special. Have quite unique (but not necessarily bad) circumstances so lot of insurers are struggling to give me a quote that's not absolutely silly. Spoke to Nowell Richards who put the details through to an underwriter who gave me a much better quote than anybody else but just wondering if anyone else had any recommendations as far as insurers go to see if I can knock a few more quid off??
Anything else you feel I should be aware of then please feel free to mention.
Many thanks for reading and look forward to your replies.
Cheers.
I am replying as someone who spent and still spends a lot of time looking and considering, however for more hands on there are plenty of decent people here:
1) I was initially looking at coupe's but took out a stunning looking ragtop recently just to test out the sport shift and it kind of changed my mind. For an identical year/spec/mileage car, what kind of premium are you typically looking at paying for a roadster over a coupe? Same question for a sport shift over a manual. anything to look out for with earlier roadsters? or coupe's?
Around this time I am not sure there is a premium for a ragtop compared to a coupe, however if you wait until May June I am sure there is.
I think the sportshift has more of a premium than the manual, although I think it is definitely something to try as from my dealings with it the sportshift is rather like marmite - you either love it or hate it.
2) As far as resale values are concerned, what type would typically hold the value better e.g manual coupe vs. roadster/sport shift etc. What are considered essential options? (Ignoring trying to sell a roadster on a sunny day in May versus a wet day in November and buying a bright yellow car etc etc).
I think most people like the usual: satnav (even though most still use a TomTom), heated seats, premium audio, parking sensors. To be honest a lot of the earlier cars I have found are generally well specced, the only difference being more specialist things like stone guards. I hear a good premium is the sports pack (wheels and suspension I believe), but again this is personal preference as it does make it a bit harsher (depending on your back
).
3) Again, probably how long Is a piece of string, but for both sport shift and manual what is a ballpark figure for clutch life in terms of mileage (I understand this figure will vary massively). But on a hypothetical 40k mileage car... What would you be thinking? What would you be looking out for if buying one of these?
Ah, I think this depends on how you drive it. I have heard people get up to 50k out of them some 10k, I believe the average is around 30k.
4) If buying from a dealer, what are they typically willing to throw into the deal as far as sweeteners go e.g extending warranties, free servicing, etc. If I buy a car on relatively high miles on the first clutch is anybody going to throw me a 2 year warranty that covers a clutch as well if I push hard enough or is he just going to laugh me out of the showroom?
I think this depends on the dealer. Some dealers are not willing to even throw in a free pen (although they do usually extend to free tea or coffee), others are okay with giving a year's servicing or extended warranty, or something if you want a different coloured panel on the door. I have never heard of 2 years servicing but if you manage that one on a used car then good on you. I tried the "will you pay for the clutch if it goes" before and the dealer said only if it goes in the next 14 days otherwise we would consider making a contribution in first 12 months but can't tell you how much.
5) Last one.. As you can probably guess, this is my first foray into buying something a bit special. Have quite unique (but not necessarily bad) circumstances so lot of insurers are struggling to give me a quote that's not absolutely silly. Spoke to Nowell Richards who put the details through to an underwriter who gave me a much better quote than anybody else but just wondering if anyone else had any recommendations as far as insurers go to see if I can knock a few more quid off??
Always best to shop around. I have heard good deals from actual "bog standard" insurers like Admiral. Usual thing though get a quote from a year and then move to another.
Hope that helps.
Grants book is very good as well so that is always a good investment especially if you are thinking of parting with £40k of your hard earned tax free money.
I am told to have an Aston is an experience you will never forget, so good luck in getting the one you want
Neil
1) I was initially looking at coupe's but took out a stunning looking ragtop recently just to test out the sport shift and it kind of changed my mind. For an identical year/spec/mileage car, what kind of premium are you typically looking at paying for a roadster over a coupe? Same question for a sport shift over a manual. anything to look out for with earlier roadsters? or coupe's?
Around this time I am not sure there is a premium for a ragtop compared to a coupe, however if you wait until May June I am sure there is.
I think the sportshift has more of a premium than the manual, although I think it is definitely something to try as from my dealings with it the sportshift is rather like marmite - you either love it or hate it.
2) As far as resale values are concerned, what type would typically hold the value better e.g manual coupe vs. roadster/sport shift etc. What are considered essential options? (Ignoring trying to sell a roadster on a sunny day in May versus a wet day in November and buying a bright yellow car etc etc).
I think most people like the usual: satnav (even though most still use a TomTom), heated seats, premium audio, parking sensors. To be honest a lot of the earlier cars I have found are generally well specced, the only difference being more specialist things like stone guards. I hear a good premium is the sports pack (wheels and suspension I believe), but again this is personal preference as it does make it a bit harsher (depending on your back
).3) Again, probably how long Is a piece of string, but for both sport shift and manual what is a ballpark figure for clutch life in terms of mileage (I understand this figure will vary massively). But on a hypothetical 40k mileage car... What would you be thinking? What would you be looking out for if buying one of these?
Ah, I think this depends on how you drive it. I have heard people get up to 50k out of them some 10k, I believe the average is around 30k.
4) If buying from a dealer, what are they typically willing to throw into the deal as far as sweeteners go e.g extending warranties, free servicing, etc. If I buy a car on relatively high miles on the first clutch is anybody going to throw me a 2 year warranty that covers a clutch as well if I push hard enough or is he just going to laugh me out of the showroom?
I think this depends on the dealer. Some dealers are not willing to even throw in a free pen (although they do usually extend to free tea or coffee), others are okay with giving a year's servicing or extended warranty, or something if you want a different coloured panel on the door. I have never heard of 2 years servicing but if you manage that one on a used car then good on you. I tried the "will you pay for the clutch if it goes" before and the dealer said only if it goes in the next 14 days otherwise we would consider making a contribution in first 12 months but can't tell you how much.
5) Last one.. As you can probably guess, this is my first foray into buying something a bit special. Have quite unique (but not necessarily bad) circumstances so lot of insurers are struggling to give me a quote that's not absolutely silly. Spoke to Nowell Richards who put the details through to an underwriter who gave me a much better quote than anybody else but just wondering if anyone else had any recommendations as far as insurers go to see if I can knock a few more quid off??
Always best to shop around. I have heard good deals from actual "bog standard" insurers like Admiral. Usual thing though get a quote from a year and then move to another.
Hope that helps.
Grants book is very good as well so that is always a good investment especially if you are thinking of parting with £40k of your hard earned tax free money.
I am told to have an Aston is an experience you will never forget, so good luck in getting the one you want
Neil
ADF123 said:
Hi guys,
2) As far as resale values are concerned, what type would typically hold the value better e.g manual coupe vs. roadster/sport shift etc. What are considered essential options? (Ignoring trying to sell a roadster on a sunny day in May versus a wet day in November and buying a bright yellow car etc etc).
The following might concern you about resale values, but do not worry, Vantage ownership equals pride.2) As far as resale values are concerned, what type would typically hold the value better e.g manual coupe vs. roadster/sport shift etc. What are considered essential options? (Ignoring trying to sell a roadster on a sunny day in May versus a wet day in November and buying a bright yellow car etc etc).
My philosophy about minimising depreciation on cars in general, is to take plenty of time to find the right car, fit a pre-1963 registration number (your car will remain looking new to most people), then keep the car for a long time (therefore making the average annual depreciation become less and less).
Steep value loss can sometimes occur. It has happened to one car, which I only noticed because I am compiling a register, of post model year 2008 Vantages, in colour Grigio Titanio - Ferrari (only about 30 cars). In June this year, a main dealer was advertising a 2009 Vantage Roadster for £60,000. Today the same car is still being advertised, but at £54,000.
Take your time, and try for a 4·7. They were delivered to the first customers in September 2008.
Good luck.
Edited by Jon39 on Saturday 13th October 20:56
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