Fords now reliable? Particularly Mondeo Mk4 (07 on)
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Much against my better judgement I'm getting close to buying a Ford again. 2.0 Peugeot diesel engine has a good reputation, owners reviews generally good. But..
Previously had an 04 1.8 tdi Focus estate which in 60k miles needed new turbo (at 17k miles), 4 alternators, suspension collapse at front (once) back (twice), new engine management system, injectors and door locks (!); parental 1996 Galaxy company car from new spent total of 12 months/ 5 years in the garage for various faults; GF 1999 Cougar failed powersteering, repeated fuelling problems, dashboard failure and premature brake failure etc (but it was 7 years old on purchase).
Any opinions gratefully received!
Previously had an 04 1.8 tdi Focus estate which in 60k miles needed new turbo (at 17k miles), 4 alternators, suspension collapse at front (once) back (twice), new engine management system, injectors and door locks (!); parental 1996 Galaxy company car from new spent total of 12 months/ 5 years in the garage for various faults; GF 1999 Cougar failed powersteering, repeated fuelling problems, dashboard failure and premature brake failure etc (but it was 7 years old on purchase).
Any opinions gratefully received!
I had an '07 mkiv mondeo ghia. 140ps diesel manual.
I ran it for two years as a company car. I thrashed it, everywhere. Put 120,000 miles on it in two years going between Bournemouth and east London mainly. It handled well, with the seats down the boot is nothing short of cavernous, it was very well appointed for the cost, I could not get the mpg below 41mpg despite the on board computer showing an avg speed of 40mph and it never missed a beat or had a problem.
Comfy seats, 6 stack cd, voice control, Bluetooth, pleasant enough manual, heated front screen ideal for early morning starts in winter. Best all round car I've had. If I suddenly find myself a family man, I'll get another over anything else I can think of. Would probably get a Titanium X though for the slightly younger image(!)
I ran it for two years as a company car. I thrashed it, everywhere. Put 120,000 miles on it in two years going between Bournemouth and east London mainly. It handled well, with the seats down the boot is nothing short of cavernous, it was very well appointed for the cost, I could not get the mpg below 41mpg despite the on board computer showing an avg speed of 40mph and it never missed a beat or had a problem.
Comfy seats, 6 stack cd, voice control, Bluetooth, pleasant enough manual, heated front screen ideal for early morning starts in winter. Best all round car I've had. If I suddenly find myself a family man, I'll get another over anything else I can think of. Would probably get a Titanium X though for the slightly younger image(!)
Been running a 2006 Fiesta Zetec-S since 2008. So far, so good - ECU needed reflashing once under recall, rear wheel bearing done a while ago, front suspension top-mount replaced under warranty. Otherwise, I batter it everywhere, keeping an eye on fluids and occasionally giving it a wash and it's been solid. Could really use a service and there's a nasty scrape on the rear offside wheelarch that could do with sorting, but still runs sweetly and returns respectable MPG considering the amount of stop/start rubbish it puts up with.
In the extended family we also have a Ka (flawless), a C-Max (brilliant) and a Mk2 Focus (impeccably behaved). None of our cars owe us much other than fuel and servicing, basically. Solid vehicles that handle decently.
In the extended family we also have a Ka (flawless), a C-Max (brilliant) and a Mk2 Focus (impeccably behaved). None of our cars owe us much other than fuel and servicing, basically. Solid vehicles that handle decently.
I've got a mk1 Fcus, its the most reliable car I've ever owned, my brother bought a mk 3 Mondeo ST diesel put 100k on it, the car never suffered a single fault, my mate has just bought a Mondeo mk3 TDCI and spent a couple of grand on it, I love Ford's but buying them is a lottery, a good one is awesome a bad one is........well
Vag products out completely! Octavia 1.9 tdi company car catastrophic engine failure at 2.5 yrs/63k miles, colleagues golf with same engine same failure at 3.5 years/ 55k. In neither case did fiddling vw or skoda want to know and personally know 3 other people with similarly affected vehicles and no vag interest. Google bxs or bls and Vag tdi.
2.0 Vag cr also meant to be pretty problematic from forums/ various friends experience but to be honest given vag's behavior with the 1.9s with a known fault I just don't want one even if they were ok.
Other thing in the running is an older e61 520d pre April 2007 (to avoid chain cam problems) but all the sensibly priced ones seem to have sold and running costs would be higher even with use of indys and judicious breakers for parts.
2.0 Vag cr also meant to be pretty problematic from forums/ various friends experience but to be honest given vag's behavior with the 1.9s with a known fault I just don't want one even if they were ok.
Other thing in the running is an older e61 520d pre April 2007 (to avoid chain cam problems) but all the sensibly priced ones seem to have sold and running costs would be higher even with use of indys and judicious breakers for parts.
Edited by mclwanB on Thursday 8th November 07:49
I bought a three year old, 2.5T Titainum X in January, and apart from a CD player which had a moment and tried to put two discs into tray 5 only 7 days after I took delivery, which Ford replaced under warranty with no questions asked, it has been faultless.
- Grabs a large piece of wood*
Running a mondeo titanium x estate (163ps), other than the thing needing a bit more pokeit is very hard to fault, other than servicing its needed nothing. 11 plate and 49k up. i have had a few fords over the years and none of them have had any issues, Compared to stuff from the VAG stables they are a lot better on the reliability front.
DennisTheMenace said:
Running a mondeo titanium x estate (163ps), other than the thing needing a bit more pokeit is very hard to fault, other than servicing its needed nothing. 11 plate and 49k up. i have had a few fords over the years and none of them have had any issues, Compared to stuff from the VAG stables they are a lot better on the reliability front.
Defiantly. All 3 mondeo's i owned i ran for years with barely any servicing and they were 100%, the TDCI mk3 i (stupidly) sold is still trundling along at 180k, whereas the Golf does nothing but f
k up.Off to the classifieds i go...
Waddya mean Fords NOW reliable? I have had since 1983: 2xCapri 2.8i (both new), 2x Granada (one new, one used), a Sierra (used), a Mk1 Mondeo TD, a Mk3 Mondeo TDDi, and now a Mondeo in a ball gown aka X-Type 2.2D. In all I have covered about half a million miles in them and there have been no problems beyond niggling minor ones like an intermittent central locking motor, and a couple down to high mileage: brake cylinder, turbo hose, etc. Ford is the world leader in high mileage experience with its company car history.
09 Mondeo 2.0 Edge Petrol. Bought brand new for £12k in May 2009 with a good px AND scrappage - it's got just over 30k on the clock and has never shown any sign of any unreliability at all bar the sill rubber seal falling off (it doesn't seem to do anything anyway so we left it off).
It will certainly be good for another 7 years by which time it will have depreciated less than £1000 a year. Can't say fairer than that. In line with economy, we get it serviced by a local garage, not Ford as the full service schedules are available on line.
It will certainly be good for another 7 years by which time it will have depreciated less than £1000 a year. Can't say fairer than that. In line with economy, we get it serviced by a local garage, not Ford as the full service schedules are available on line.
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