RE: Driven: Aston Martin Vanquish

RE: Driven: Aston Martin Vanquish

Wednesday 14th November 2012

Driven: Aston Martin Vanquish

Sharper, all carbon skin and quantifiable engineering improvements beneath but is the new Vanquish actually better?



Aston Martin doesn’t change things for the sake of it. The core principal of its VH methodology is to improve what it already has: that’s how models such as the V8 Vantage evolved from OK into very able indeed. Now, with the Vanquish, we’ve another evolution, boasting ‘generation 4’ VH platform, full carbon fibre bodywork and a 77 per cent new AM11 V12 engine. It’s not ‘more new’ because, yes, Aston said there was no need - “Why change the bore centres for the sake of it?”

Carbon skin means sharper lines
Carbon skin means sharper lines
This should be the most well developed modern Aston ever, then. It certainly looks it. Images don’t do justice to the near-iridescence of the surfaces – designer Marek Reichman says the depth of the rear haunches and sharp creases throughout wouldn’t be possible in aluminium and describes the impression as the difference between rolling mountain hillsides and sheer alpine ranges. Unlike many recent ‘new’ Astons, it does evolve the DB9-derived theme we’re familiar with and you’ll tell it apart from other Astons in an instant.

Same old same old?
There’s too much that’s familiar inside, mind – dials and 1970s fly-off handbrake spring to mind – but at least the footwells are bigger and the haptic feedback centre console fancier - it clicks like an iPhone when you touch it. You’ll still curse the key too (press in and hold…) but, boy, is there a reward when it catches.

Engine is 'mostly new' and mainly brill
Engine is 'mostly new' and mainly brill
Now producing 573hp, the 6.0-litre V12 boasts an exhaust system developed from the One-77 that sounds immense. It blares powerfully even at idle – it’s not dependent on accelerating gases to create its harmony – and is every bit as rich as you’d hope. Turn it up further by jabbing the glowing red ‘S’ sport button on the steering wheel.

The engine is nine per cent more powerful, nine per cent more economical and, significantly, now has dual variable valve timing so there’s more torque lower down in the rev range, compensating for the holes in the gearbox’s ratios. It’s still not a slugger but it now has more of the response you’d expect of a 6.0-litre motor at cruising revs and now gets into its stride at 3,000rpm rather than 4,500rpm. The howl at redline revs is brilliant.

Off the line
At 4.1 seconds, it’s 0.2secs faster to 62mph albeit slower overall, presumably due to the downforce-inducing aeroduct rear. There’s a new launch control to help make this repeatable, albeit a pretty soft and undramatic one.

It does look different ... but any better?
It does look different ... but any better?
The six-speed ZF gearbox is perhaps at fault here. It’s neither as snappy as a good DCT nor as expansive as the latest eight-speed unit. This is the Vanquish’s weakest area.

Three-stage adaptive damping (controlled by another steering wheel button) and 25 per cent greater torsional rigidity have appreciably improved the DBS’s ride quality. The chassis is now more supple and it’s tuned to use a wide range of wheel travel where necessary, yet is damped well enough to never seem loose.

Handling is also sharper though – an extra stage of adaptivity means the car’s breadth is wider and Aston’s added more tautly-controlled focus in the sportier reaches. Wider tyres mean traction is superb and it can be chucked about like a much smaller car with real confidence: this is a very easy and natural car to drive.

Test route showed up some chassis jitters
Test route showed up some chassis jitters
Getting the jitters
Just one proviso – the Cambridgeshire test route created a very sharp and jittery Vanquish in places. The roads were  disgracefully bad, yes, but whether Aston’s gone too far here must wait until we get it on familiar roads.

The steering is less chatty than before. Perhaps inevitable: the classic 911-style on-centre squirm of the DBS is a bit old-school now, and the Vanquish trades this for more positive bite to micro-inputs. It’s still a fine system, but in making it ‘better’, it’s become a bit less charismatic.

Other areas still feel like a racecar though, from the standard carbon ceramic brakes to the feeling of mass centralised even more within the chassis. It is - the engine is 19mm lower and the hollow cast aluminium front chassis is 13 per cent lighter than the DBS. It feels more of a specialist car than a 911 or a Conti GT, just one that’s now better to look at, live with and to drive. Although, at £190K, priced accordingly too…

Familiar but a bit better - spot the theme?
Familiar but a bit better - spot the theme?
The philosophy of VH means the Vanquish doesn’t feel a radical diversion. Rightly or wrongly, we shouldn’t expect otherwise. Rather, it’s a better version of what went before. Only now, at last, it also looks like it, too…

 

 

 

 



ASTON MARTIN VANQUISH
Engine:
5,935cc, V12
Transmission: 6-speed ZF automatic, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 573@6,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 457@5,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.1 sec
Top speed: 183mph
Weight: 1,739kg
MPG: 19.6
CO2: 335g/km
Price: £191,080

   
   
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loveice

Original Poster:

648 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Don't really like like the rear end. It need at least 650bhp to compete with the others if not 700.

E38Ross

35,049 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Absolutely love it. Steep price tag, mind!

sgq89

93 posts

143 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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It certainly doesnt look better. There is a man down my road who works for Aston Martin and he actually has a dark blue one of these frequently on his drive (much to my suprise, its been on his drive for months, he also had one covered in a disguising tape, but it is 100% the new vanquish) and I can tell you now that its actually shocking how plastic and cheap it looks up close. The previous one looks like an expensive, solid piece of kit. Honestly chaps, up close in the flesh, this actually looks very poor and flimsy. Its a wonder they can get away with selling it at the price they will charge. Poor product. Go for the SLS or the Ferrari California/F12b


Also, 0-60 in 4.1 seconds? Are we still in 1996? Not exactly slow but for your flagship car costing £190k...not quick enough.

Edited by sgq89 on Wednesday 14th November 11:11

bakerstreet

4,761 posts

165 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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They are slowly creeping their way to 600bhp. I suspect there will be a Vanquish S that will hit the 600bhp mark.

I like the outside. The inside has also had a welcome change, but the centre vents appear to have been taken from a some ancient mid 90s car frown Steering wheel just looks like a tarted up one from other Astons.



Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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loveice said:
It need at least 650bhp to compete with the others if not 700.
Why?

StottyZr

6,860 posts

163 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Rawwr said:
loveice said:
It need at least 650bhp to compete with the others if not 700.
Why?
Erm. Because the "others" i.e the Vanquish' competition have that much power.

I hate to say it, but this car does not excite me.

GroundEffect

13,835 posts

156 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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StottyZr said:
Rawwr said:
loveice said:
It need at least 650bhp to compete with the others if not 700.
Why?
Erm. Because the "others" i.e the Vanquish' competition have that much power.

I hate to say it, but this car does not excite me.
The competitors don't look anywhere near as beautiful.

I want one. I need one. I don't care if the Ferrari F12 has over 700BHP.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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StottyZr said:
Erm. Because the "others" i.e the Vanquish' competition have that much power.

I hate to say it, but this car does not excite me.
Doesn't do much for me, either. I'm just taking exception with the word 'need' again.

lewisf182

2,089 posts

188 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Those wheels look like aftermarket wolfrace tat IMO. Can't see why anybody would really choose this over a ferrari or lambo at all, the design is barely different than the last just looks like a facelift? Maybe I just dont really 'get' Aston martin

StottyZr

6,860 posts

163 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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GroundEffect said:
The competitors don't look anywhere near as beautiful.

I want one. I need one. I don't care if the Ferrari F12 has over 700BHP.
Fair enough, but as we all know look are subjective. In all honesty I don't this is very pretty, especially for an AM.

Dissapointed. Not that it matters, I'm not exactly AMs target market hehe

robinessex

11,050 posts

181 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I'm I the only guy in the UK who actually thinks the original Vanquish is still the best looker?

Luca Brasi

885 posts

174 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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loveice said:
Don't really like like the rear end. It need at least 650bhp to compete with the others if not 700.
Disagree. 575 is more than enough imo, who cares that F12s, Aventadors etc. have 700 or more? This is by far the better looking car. And how many owners of big V12 metal actually track their cars, not many is what I'm thinking.

DanielSan

18,773 posts

167 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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I'll take mine in yellow please.


sgq89

93 posts

143 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Luca Brasi said:
loveice said:
Don't really like like the rear end. It need at least 650bhp to compete with the others if not 700.
Disagree. 575 is more than enough imo, who cares that F12s, Aventadors etc. have 700 or more? This is by far the better looking car. And how many owners of big V12 metal actually track their cars, not many is what I'm thinking.
I agree that 575 is "enough" power, but surely if you were spending that sort of money, you'd want it to be competative with other cars of that price? Perhaps that isn't important to you, which is fair enough.

Also, as you say it is "by far the better looking car", this is of course your opinion which you are entitled to, but I do feel its hard to compare cars without actually having them near each other. I think you could suprise yourself if you lined them all up and then decided which you thought looked best. I've often been suprised when I've seen cars in the flesh, both for better and worse.

MyCC

337 posts

157 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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lewisf182 said:
Those wheels look like aftermarket wolfrace tat IMO. Can't see why anybody would really choose this over a ferrari or lambo at all, the design is barely different than the last just looks like a facelift? Maybe I just dont really 'get' Aston martin
Because for some a Ferrari/Lambo is a bit too brash and many prefer the understated gentleman looks of the Aston. Not everyone buys such a GT to be flash or to have pub bragging rights on who has the most BHP.

Vee12V

1,332 posts

160 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Thought about trading the trusted V12V for one of these, but it lacks a manual box. So it won't happen any time soon.

bikerPaul

1,672 posts

210 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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robinessex said:
I'm I the only guy in the UK who actually thinks the original Vanquish is still the best looker?
Hell no!

Although i do like this too.

raptor600

1,356 posts

146 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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Luca Brasi said:
Disagree. 575 is more than enough imo, who cares that F12s, Aventadors etc. have 700 or more? This is by far the better looking car.
Is it though?

For that money you want something "supercar" looking - this isn't I am afraid.

Give me a DB9 and change please.

raptor600

1,356 posts

146 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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bikerPaul said:
Hell no!

Although i do like this too.
I agree - the original looks better.

:J:

2,593 posts

225 months

Wednesday 14th November 2012
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It's funny reading the comments about comparisions with Ferrari, Lambo, etc.....

Aston owners buy an Aston because they want an Aston, not because of headline figures on a piece of paper rolleyes

Understand the market, then comment smile