RE: Driven: BMW M5 Manual

RE: Driven: BMW M5 Manual

Tuesday 4th December 2012

Driven: BMW M5 Manual

Manual gearbox sticks it to the (electronic) man and transforms the cold and clinical F10 M5



Electronics - there's no escape; they're present in almost every aspect of our lives, including our cars. We're not foolish enough to argue against the advance of technology but sometimes we just prefer our cars with more character than computing power.

How to unlock the M5's tech-heavy character
How to unlock the M5's tech-heavy character
That's the criticism levelled by Editor Trent at the techno-laden F10 M5 earlier in the year - he even drove it all the way to Wales to check. Lauded at launch by the assembled hacks, the M5 answers every criticism directed at the previous E60 model and boasts a set of numbers pretty much untouchable by its competitors. In the end Dan departed Wales blown away by the M5's ability but left cold by the lack of engagement.

Our way or the highway
In the case of the M5, UK (and European) buyers have one piece of technology forced upon them that our American and Canadian cousins don't - that smooth shifting seven-speed dual-clutch auto. Place your order for an M5 in Orlando or Ontario and you can tick a box marked 'six-speed manual' instead, and it costs nothing extra to do so.

Stateside M5 includes one thing we can't have
Stateside M5 includes one thing we can't have
Still laden with kit including adaptive suspension, steering and throttle response it's clear swapping cogs yourself won't dramatically transform the M5 experience. It's still a geek fest of gadgetry in here. But maybe, just maybe, this 'land of the automatic' is getting access to a subtle slice of extra involvement that we miss out on. With the Rim of the World Highway (really) and a full tank of gas at our disposal we head towards Great Bear Lake to find out.

Slick roads and grey skies aside, this Alpine White M5 with its 20-inch double spoke wheels already stands out against the legions of oversized trucks and poverty spec Chevrolets it shares California State Route 18 with. The familiar six-speed manual lever actually looks like something of an afterthought in the M5, missing the textured aluminium surround and neat layout for the adaptive damping, steering and throttle controls found on the automatic's transmission tunnel.

All it took was one extra pedal...
All it took was one extra pedal...
MTFU
Thankfully more effort has gone into the shift itself, which, befitting a car of this size (even in America the M5 feels on the large side) has a meaty and positive action. Sure you can swap cogs with a pair of digits, but for quicker changes you need to take it by the scruff of its neck and manhandle it into your desired ratio. In contrast the clutch feels quite light, and with a long first gear you need to balance the pedals carefully to avoid bogging down.

But for all this muscle car feel, electronics continue to play their part. In Comfort or Sport mode the M5 blips the throttle on every downchange. The revs are matched quickly and smoothly, but those who enjoy the art of their own expertly executed heel and toe changes will need to select Sport+ mode.

White M5 makes sense ... in California
White M5 makes sense ... in California
Slightly lighter than the automatic (1,975kg plays 1,990kg according to the US website) with fractionally better weight distribution, the manual M5 is also one tenth slower from 0-60mph at 4.3 seconds. You'll not notice any of this on the road of course, and the M5 remains just as much of a hooligan as before, the rear end's grip overwhelmed with ease on our damp test route.

Flaws equal character
One thing that is noticeable is the turbo lag. Clearly the automatic box normally masks this, pre-empting off-boost lethargy with shorter ratios and making it difficult to tell its 501lb ft of torque is delivered via forced induction. Not so in the manual where, even in the higher rev range, there can be a tiny delay before full forward thrust is reached. Do the same with the engine spinning lower down the rev range and that morphs into what feels like tenths of a second, before the boost takes over and you've forgotten all about it. On paper that sounds like a problem, but in reality it's a refreshing dose of character normally missing from the linear power delivery of almost every modern turbocharged car.

Previously hidden lag adds character
Previously hidden lag adds character
On paper the M5 is superior to all of its opposition and boasts a history far richer than any rival, but in reality this F10 generation seems to have been missing some M car magic. However, while the manual gearbox highlights a couple of minor drivetrain flaws it more than makes up for this with added character and driver engagement. It's still loaded with electronics, but no longer are you a passenger in a digital super saloon - with the stick-shift option it's once again the driver who is in full control, and that's a very good thing indeed.

 



BMW M5 (F10)
Engine:
4,395cc V8, twin-turbo, direct-injection
Power (hp): 560@6,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 501@1,500rpm
0-62mph: 4.3 sec
Top speed: 155mph (limited)
Weight: 1,974kg
Price: $92,095 (including $1,300 Gas Guzzler Tax)

On the road in the manual M5.

 

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Discussion

The Noise

Original Poster:

40 posts

141 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Took one of these for a spin in the States and they are so much fun. Not as refined as the auto option here in the UK, but not in a bad way. It feels more like a performance car with the manual.

There is some turbo lag, but it is very minimal.

It was like driving a fast saloon 15 years ago, with all of today's toys. And a little more weight to hustle along...

BMW are seriously missing a treat not selling it here...

blackchrome917

69 posts

148 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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The Noise said:
BMW are seriously missing a treat not selling it here...
+1

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Better than the automatic version we get here, but still doesn't remotely appeal to me.

thepony

1,697 posts

165 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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I am wondering whether some of these reviews whether people's opinions change with time ....
E92 M3 at launch .... Press .... Mildly lukewarm lots of criticism
E92 M3 now .... Press .... Universally love it

How can any of us be sure what some of these reviewers write ? Not trying to have a dig at anyone. Just doesn't always make sense ....

g3org3y

20,627 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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blackchrome917 said:
The Noise said:
BMW are seriously missing a treat not selling it here...
+1
Indeed, and I'm not sure why they choose not to.

Surely it would sell.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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g3org3y said:
Surely it would sell.
Would it? Few people spending significant amounts of money seem to want a manual gearbox any more.

Digger

14,663 posts

191 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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kambites said:
g3org3y said:
Surely it would sell.
Would it? Few people spending significant amounts of money seem to want a manual gearbox any more.
Taking the M135i as a guide from babybmw, approximately a quarter of purchasers opted for manual.

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Digger said:
kambites said:
g3org3y said:
Surely it would sell.
Would it? Few people spending significant amounts of money seem to want a manual gearbox any more.
Taking the M135i as a guide from babybmw, approximately a quarter of purchasers opted for manual.
I suspect the take-up would be even lower in a bigger, more expensive car.

BeirutTaxi

6,631 posts

214 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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The 'Turbo lag character' thing is interesting. I've only driven a few cars with turbocharged engines but in each one, I've found lag irritating when on twisty/country roads. It doesn't add anything except a complication and delay to the power delivery. Perhaps trying some more turbocharged cars out may prove me wrong.

On the flip side, I have driven a fair few N/A engines and I find myself drawn to the ones that rev freely/nicely with a smooth, predictable power delivery.

BMW's efforts of creating turbo charged engines that feel naturally aspirated have received a lot of praise, this news story is the first one that is contrary to that.

Matt UK

17,696 posts

200 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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g3org3y said:
blackchrome917 said:
The Noise said:
BMW are seriously missing a treat not selling it here...
+1
Indeed, and I'm not sure why they choose not to.

Surely it would sell.
Oh yeah, PHers would lap them up...

... in 10 years time ...

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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BeirutTaxi said:
BMW's efforts of creating turbo charged engines that feel naturally aspirated have received a lot of praise, this news story is the first one that is contrary to that.
I've driven a few of BMW's recent turbocharged engines, and none of them feel remotely naturally aspirated to me - they all have appreciable turbo lag.



Can't beat a N/A, carburettor fed engine for throttle response. driving

Sadly they don't do so well on things like emissions and fuel economy. frown

Luca Brasi

885 posts

174 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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cloud9 Gorgeous.

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Surely sending over Harris for a video review would have been appropriate?

cerb4.5lee

30,550 posts

180 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Would love the manual option in the uk...not that I can afford a new M5, I just prefer the interaction with the car rather than slam your foot down & just hang on!

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

208 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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kambites said:
Can't beat a N/A, carburettor fed engine for throttle response. driving
Why would a carb engine have better throttle response than EFI?

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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RobCrezz said:
kambites said:
Can't beat a N/A, carburettor fed engine for throttle response. driving
Why would a carb engine have better throttle response than EFI?
I'm not sure, but they definitely seem to. I've never driven an EFI car with genuinely good throttle response.

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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em177 said:
Surely sending over Harris for a video review would have been appropriate?
Or at least giving the driver a mic so he could give us a bit of banter. And perhaps an SLR, instead of shooting on a go pro. I guess the video was an after thought.

Urban Sports

11,321 posts

203 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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I'd have thought the US market would be the worst place to sell a big manual saloon, I thought that about the e60 as well.

confused

jon-

16,509 posts

216 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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kambites said:
I'm not sure, but they definitely seem to. I've never driven an EFI car with genuinely good throttle response.
I have, in the days a cable still connected the loud pedal to the throttle body...

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 4th December 2012
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Urban Sports said:
I'd have thought the US market would be the worst place to sell a big manual saloon, I thought that about the e60 as well.

confused
Having a manual seems to be a status symbol in the US, just as having flappy paddles here is. The lure of the unusual, I suppose.