RE: Audi RS6 downsizes to 560hp V8

RE: Audi RS6 downsizes to 560hp V8

Wednesday 5th December 2012

Audi RS6 downsizes to 560hp V8

Hard-hitting twin-turbo V10 makes way for new-school downsized V8 that's faster, lighter and more frugal too



When it launched in 2008, the current Audi RS6's turbocharged knockout punch offered a distinctly different approach to AMG and M’s higher-revving, naturally aspirated V8s and V10s. The RS's V10, all cataclysmic engine note and peak torque from just 1,500rpm was something very different in character, even if the car itself was a bit of a blunt tool.

New RS6 will be 100kg than outgoing model
New RS6 will be 100kg than outgoing model
How times change. Both BMW and Mercedes now offer meaty twin-turbo V8s in place of their zingy naturally-aspirated engines, matching Audi’s engine tech blow for blow. Time for a new RS6, then – one that drops a couple of cylinders and 100kg, and chucks in a ton of interesting new tech to maintain the old Vorsprung Durch Technik thing.

So it’s a return to a twin-turbo V8, like the Cosworth-built one in the first-generation RS6, then. A ‘mere’ 4.0 litres, the new engine puts induction on the ‘outside’ of the cylinder heads, while the turbos and exhausts sit inside the V, which should enable faster throttle response. It also shuts down four cylinders when not needed, improving fuel consumption by five per cent and nudging 30mpg (28.8 officially) when trundling along.

New V8: less power, but more torque than V10
New V8: less power, but more torque than V10
Hang on. Fuel consumption? Sorry. We’ll move on to the important stuff. A litre and two cylinders down on the muscular, undersquare V10, the new V8 loses a little in terms of outright power (560hp to the V10’s 579), but gains a useful slug of torque (516lbft, compared with the V10’s 479). Together with the new RS6’s slimming regime, the result is a 0-62 time of 3.9 seconds, making this the first RS6 to drop below the four-second-to-62mph mark. At the top end, there’s an electronically-limited top speed of 155mph, though the optional Dynamic package raises that to 174mph, while a Dynamic Plus package will get you a further boost to 189mph.

The new engine will be bolted to an eight-speed automatic transmission, though it’s interesting to note that Audi has opted not to fit a DSG box here. The reason for that, Audi claims, is that the work that’s been done by ZF on this transmission, and the resultant speed of its shifts, makes it better-suited to the RS6. The proof of the pudding, as they say...

Plush interior includes dash-mounted shift lights
Plush interior includes dash-mounted shift lights
There’s another first in the suspension department, as this will be the first RS model to feature air suspension. The adaptive system adjusts itself depending on the driving style and road conditions, and has the ability to lower the body by up to 20mm. If you’d prefer a more traditional suspension setup, though, steel springs and three-way adjustable shock absorbers will also be available.

Inside, there’ll be the sort of high-spec interior you’ll be expecting from a car like this, featuring swathes of leather and alcantara, unique sports seats, and a raft of toys. One of the more interesting among those will be a driver information system that’ll include a shift light, plus displays for boost pressure, oil temperature, gear selected and digital speed.

All of which will doubtless make for a very impressive car. But the real test will be whether the company’s chassis men have managed to sharpen up the RS6’s dynamics to make it more about the driving experience, and less about the headline figures. Judging by the company’s latest new models, there’s reason to be optimistic.

Original RS6 can now be had for under £10,000
Original RS6 can now be had for under £10,000
Of course, if the £77,000 that Audi will be asking for the new model is a smidge more than your budget allows, a quick scoot through the PistonHeads classifieds shows that older models of RS6 have now depreciated to such an extent as to render them almost affordable. For example, one can find oneself enjoying the finery of an original V8 Biturbo model for under £10,000 these days. This one, finished in a nicely understated Mugello Blue, has reasonable mileage and main dealer history, too, and seems to be free of any unnecessary aftermarket trinketry.

If nothing but the big V10 version will do, though, you’ll have to stretch your budget up to £32,000, for which sum you could be driving away in this example. Again, the mileage isn’t ridiculous, and the all-important full history is here, too; the Daytona Grey paintwork seems to be the most common colour, but it does at least add ten Q-car points.

 

 

 

 

 

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mrclav

Original Poster:

1,295 posts

223 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Now that looks very very nice indeed. Yum.

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I didn't know Cosworth did the original, excellent factoid! biggrin

timb551

20 posts

239 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Absolutely loving the look of this!

kiethton

13,895 posts

180 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Picture caption - 100kg's lighter or heavier?

melvster

6,841 posts

185 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I dont think you need a Porsche 911 Turbo when this is nearly as quick, has twice as many doors, massive boot and goes like st off a shovel. My ultimate daily driver.

FWDRacer

3,564 posts

224 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Transmission technology has caught up with Jaguar. biggrin

scenario8

6,561 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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A lex said:
Fugging marvellous, but £77k is a serious amount of wonga.
Indeed it is. But near £30k is bonkers for a Golf GTi or near £40k for a 320d M Sport yet they sell remarkably well. £80k for a plushly equipped large premium estate with the horsepower and shove of a Gallardo doesn't sound like shocking value.

Obviously, I'm never going to have one but I'm sure Audi will get over that.

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I'll take the engine in an A1 please. Might have to sling it in the back to avoid the mega understeer though biggrin

J4CKO

41,556 posts

200 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Who actually buys these ?

Even the wealthier people I know seem to have gone for higher end diesels.

CO2000

3,177 posts

209 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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scenario8 said:
A lex said:
Fugging marvellous, but £77k is a serious amount of wonga.
Indeed it is. But near £30k is bonkers for a Golf GTi or near £40k for a 320d M Sport yet they sell remarkably well. £80k for a plushly equipped large premium estate with the horsepower and shove of a Gallardo doesn't sound like shocking value.
& I know what type of cars the manufactures will be making more on.

Edited by CO2000 on Wednesday 5th December 13:39

Flat6

588 posts

255 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Shame it's lost the square arches

PascalBuyens

2,868 posts

282 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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"New RS6 will be 100kg than outgoing model"

Lighter, or heavier? (picture comment)

scenario8

6,561 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Lighter.

SuperchargedVR6

3,138 posts

220 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Krikkit said:
I didn't know Cosworth did the original, excellent factoid! biggrin
Yeah they took Audi's effort and reduced it's size by 40% and made it more powerful too smile

gofasterrosssco

1,238 posts

236 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I'm not often a fan of these types of vehicular transport, but I really do like the look and sounds of the specs of this car.

Good to see a push towards a (bit) smaller, more advanced, but more efficient drivetrain and a resulting reduction in kerb weight (not just additional scope for more 'toys').. smile

Scrof

197 posts

154 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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scenario8 said:
Indeed it is. But near £30k is bonkers for a Golf GTi or near £40k for a 320d M Sport yet they sell remarkably well. £80k for a plushly equipped large premium estate with the horsepower and shove of a Gallardo doesn't sound like shocking value.
I actually did think this while writing the article; while you could never really call £77k 'good value', it is a vast car with vast power and all the things you can possibly imagine (short of super rocket powered lasers operated by lions). Compared with some other premium car choices that are out there (a base-model diesel Range Rover comes in at nearly £72k, for example), it doesn't seem all that unreasonable.

emicen

8,585 posts

218 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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J4CKO said:
Who actually buys these ?

Even the wealthier people I know seem to have gone for higher end diesels.
Depends what level of wealth we're talking. They're all over the shop in Verbier (on UK plates).

scenario8

6,561 posts

179 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Scrof said:
scenario8 said:
Indeed it is. But near £30k is bonkers for a Golf GTi or near £40k for a 320d M Sport yet they sell remarkably well. £80k for a plushly equipped large premium estate with the horsepower and shove of a Gallardo doesn't sound like shocking value.
I actually did think this while writing the article; while you could never really call £77k 'good value', it is a vast car with vast power and all the things you can possibly imagine (short of super rocket powered lasers operated by lions). Compared with some other premium car choices that are out there (a base-model diesel Range Rover comes in at nearly £72k, for example), it doesn't seem all that unreasonable.
Absurd lottery win notwithstanding I'd take one over a low spec FFRR or a Gallardo - or indeed two well equipped 320d M Sports.

Mini1275

11,098 posts

182 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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I've always loved the RS6 and this one is no different.

One will definitely be the dog carrier when my numbers come up biggrin.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Wednesday 5th December 2012
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Well the interior appears to look gash. I loathe the use of carbon fibre for interior trim. Chintzy poop.