RE: Spotted: Citroen ZX 16v

RE: Spotted: Citroen ZX 16v

Monday 4th February 2013

Spotted: Citroen ZX 16v

An oft-forgotten but under-rated French hot hatch is found hiding in the classifieds



Before we start this Spotted, I have to admit to a bit of bias. You see, my first car was a Citroen ZX (and, indeed, my second, after I pranged the first one in fairly spectacular style). Both were lowly 1.4-litre models, late of year and laden with all the kerb appeal of a walking stick. But they were big enough to throw all my mates in the back of, had plush seats and electric windows, and with an AX GTI-derived (OK, it was 25hp down on the GTI, but still) engine, they felt like the fastest thing in the world to a teenager who, until then, had only had command of a 1.0-litre Nissan Micra.

2.0 engine majored on mid-range torque
2.0 engine majored on mid-range torque
Of course, as one does, I loved my first car(s), and became fixated on owning the ‘halo model’ of the ZX range one day: the 16V. The what, now? Well, quite. History has not been kind to the ZX 16V, and today it’s only a select few people who remember it even existed. Considerably overshadowed by its cousin, the Peugeot 306 GTI-6, and let down by its comparatively frumpy looks, few people laid down hard cash for one. Consequently, today the ZX 16V languishes forlornly in the doldrums of hot hatch history, seen by many as nothing more than a curiosity.

Which is a shame when you consider that it was actually an extremely competent hot hatch. It featured the same 152hp 2.0-litre engine and five-speed gearbox that later made it into the Peugeot 306 S16 (in this pre-facelift form at least – later 16Vs got the GTI-6’s 167hp unit). The ZX also featured a ‘passive rear-wheel-steer system’ – essentially, deformable front mounts on the rear torsion beam that allowed it to sway when lateral forces were applied.

Interior was livened up by red piping
Interior was livened up by red piping
Allied to a powerplant that leaned more toward solid mid-range torque than outright rev-happiness, this made the ZX a real hoot to drive. Despite the body roll, grip levels were very high, and 205-esque lift-off oversteer was there for the taking when the limit was breached. Turn-in was super sharp and the steering was direct, too, giving a lightness and alacrity that rivals such as VW’s Mk3 Golf GTi 16V found it hard to match. And inside, there was none of the flakiness you’d normally associate with a French interior of the period; instead, solidly screwed-together black plastics and figure-hugging seats with a flutter of red piping made it a pleasant – if slightly dour – place to be.

So the ZX 16V doesn’t necessarily deserve to be one of the forgotten men of the 90s hot hatch race. But its position as such does offer the advantage of low prices. This one, for example, is probably the best, if not one of, in the country. With a meagre 38,000 miles on the clock, it’s barely run-in, and there’s an astonishing amount of history to back that up. It’s finished in black, a colour which suits the ZX’s chunky lines, and cosmetically it looks near-mint. And yet the price is £2,375. Strong money, you might think, when average examples of these can be had for Shed money, but we reckon a bit of bartering could see you drive it home for two grand. When you consider this is the best around, that seems fairly reasonable to us.

16v today has a whiff of retro cool about it
16v today has a whiff of retro cool about it
In fact, as the realisation of a long-standing ambition, this particular ZX is looking exceptionally tempting to me. There’d be no better way to revisit those youthful dreams of early 90s Gallic hot hatchery. If it’s still there in a couple of weeks, be warned: you might just see this forgotten man taking a more regular role on PH. Watch this space!

 



CITROEN ZX 16V
Engine:
1,998cc 4-cyl
Transmission: 5-speed manual
Power (hp): 152@6500rpm
Torque(lb ft): 137@3500rpm
MPG: 28.3mpg
CO2: N/A
First registered: 1993
Recorded mileage: 38,000
Price new: £14,995
Yours for: £2,375


See the original advert here

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Dr Z

Original Poster:

3,396 posts

171 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Brilliant car! I wish I had this one than the 1.9 TD, although not complaining with the fuel consumption. smile

rijmij99

423 posts

161 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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the volcane was my halo model, the first (ready to be corrected) performance diesel

rastapasta

1,861 posts

138 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Id agree with the above comments, diesel is probably more desirable. These things really handled though. Very surprised none made it onto the rally stages ala the 306 maxi's of the same generation.

sjabrown

1,913 posts

160 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Very nice, but that one advertised is asking a high price!

Hitch78

6,106 posts

194 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Those wheels are excellent; time to head back to smaller wheels with more metal.

gdelargy

73 posts

195 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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rijmij99 said:
the volcane was my halo model, the first (ready to be corrected) performance diesel
What about the 205 D Turbo? I remember a workmate raving about his, and that must have been back in about '93-'94. He'd owned a 205 GTI prior to that as well, so he wasn't just blowing smoke (in every way).

I think the Pug was slightly down on power, but obviously it was a lot lighter too.

Obiwonkeyblokey

5,399 posts

240 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Had one of these in 1993 as a demonstrator when I worked for Citroen. I remember it feeling quite quick at the time compared to its rivals. Didn't weigh much and had passive rear steering.


s_zigmond

1,134 posts

186 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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RichardD

3,560 posts

245 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Dr Z said:
Brilliant car! I wish I had this one than the 1.9 TD, although not complaining with the fuel consumption. smile
The car here imho is an oddball classic, and whatever original comments there were regarding the design, by modern standards it has a sleek front!

Regarding your car, you could do better if you change the TD to a TV wink (Turbo diesel -> TurboVeg, if the fuel pump would allow). Then turn the boost up. (My supa-shed TurboD has peak torque at what seems like 3k revs!)

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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A work colleague has a ZX Volcane TD. It was certainly a decent place to sit.

I'd give one of these a go. Built in the days before hot hatches had to have 225 tyres, 250 bhp and weighed 1.5 tonnes. When fun was more important that the figures.

alangla

4,772 posts

181 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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RichardD said:
Regarding your car, you could do better if you change the TD to a TV wink (Turbo diesel -> TurboVeg, if the fuel pump would allow). Then turn the boost up. (My supa-shed TurboD has peak torque at what seems like 3k revs!)
Have you got any experience of running a TD with a Lucas pump on veg? There's a 1996 Aura TD in the family, complete shed but just keeps on going. I'm willing to consider veg if it wouldn't wreck the pump. Needless to say I'm cursing the parents flogging their Bosch pump NA diesel, though the Reflex seats used to leave you with a hell of a sore bahookie after any length of drive...

s m

23,222 posts

203 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Where is Kitchski? smile

These were always quite a rare sight on the roads - Fast Lane did a test with the Nissan Sunny Gti

gradeA

651 posts

201 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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I had two Volcanes, one after the other - both 5d petrol 1.9, same engine as the 205 GTi 1.9 I believe, just with a different inlet manifold - and always wanted a 16v. Cracking cars but not a lot of headroom, which was why I had to get something different frown


RichardD

3,560 posts

245 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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alangla said:
Have you got any experience of running a TD with a Lucas pump on veg? There's a 1996 Aura TD in the family, complete shed but just keeps on going. I'm willing to consider veg if it wouldn't wreck the pump. ...
Apologies to everyone else for taking this topic on a tangent!

In theory it should be possible with a twin tank setup, so the pump doesn't experience any cold veg.

Mine has one of these (ATG being the type, supplied from DieselVeg in the UK (not cheap), I keep meaning to take it out as I'm just biodiesel nowadays.

Alternatively you may be able to get info on
www.vegetableoildiesel.co.uk/forum regarding a pump change. I believe a few have done it, but it was probably all a few years back now....

rhysenna

689 posts

186 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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rastapasta said:
Id agree with the above comments, diesel is probably more desirable. These things really handled though. Very surprised none made it onto the rally stages ala the 306 maxi's of the same generation.
Think they where used mainly in Europe.






Gorbyrev

1,160 posts

154 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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rijmij99 said:
the volcane was my halo model, the first (ready to be corrected) performance diesel
+1 ZX was a fabulous machine. Super urgent brakes as I remember and the rear steer gave the sensation of oversteer.

DannyT

158 posts

224 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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Ah memory lane... had one for all of about 4 months. Front diff failed, clutch went, exhaust fell off and I cooked the brakes half way on a sprint from London to Hereford. But... but... what a car, the turn in was just instantaneous and the back was helpfully adjustable. I went everywhere flat out in mine until the front diff failed which made it an economic write off. Still remember a couple of specific journeys in that car!

griffdude

1,823 posts

248 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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I had a 5 door 1.9 TD, fantastic car; comfortable & economical. Also very well equipped for its day & used to tow my glider trailer all over the place. I put 175k on it just changing oil every 6k, it expired after 3 months use by my car-killer S-I-L.
Borrowed a friends 16V & really thought it was the dogs nuts at the time, although agree with a previous post that they're a little tight on headroom.

J4CKO

41,520 posts

200 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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The ZX range was actually pretty decent as a whole, was just a standard hatch with little Citroen weirdness or complexity, was thinking I hadnt seen one for a while, not that I go out with a notebook noting them down but was thinking that maybe they had all but dwindled to nothing, a quick look on Howmanyleft suggests that thousands of them in various guises are still going, where are they all ? Deepest mid Wales or somewhere else ?

MiniMan64

16,917 posts

190 months

Monday 4th February 2013
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I had a £300 ZX TD for a few years that was epic fun, only cost me tires over two and bit years and made 50mpg+ plenty of times. Sold it for £280 as well.

Dog rough, left big puffs of black smoke when you planted it, knocks and dings all over the place, cavernous boot but just epic wallowy fun. First time I ever owned a car that could properly "go" which of course was relative at the time.

I still look fondly at the large green scrap in our local multistorey from more than a bit of touch parking.