RE: Toyota GT86 TRD - official

RE: Toyota GT86 TRD - official

Friday 8th February 2013

Toyota GT86 TRD - official

Toyota Racing Developments GT86 to launch as an official UK model - full details here



A little while back we drove two visions of officially upgraded GT86 as a taster of the factory upgrade packages Toyota is working on. And the first fruits of that have been announced today in the shape of the GT86 TRD, a limited edition '86 due on sale next month. 250 will be offered in the UK in a choice of white or black, both showing off a selection of goodies from the TRD catalogue.

Good news, right? Well......

'Make it cheaper and faster!' came the cry...
'Make it cheaper and faster!' came the cry...
Both cars PH drove had significant - and significantly different - chassis set-ups and demonstrated a variety of TRD packages with upgraded brakes, dampers, strut braces and other bits and bobs. Read the full story here but they're the kinds of things you might feasibly want to add to a base GT86 if you wanted it to cope better with a regular pasting on track. No more power - yet - but a sharpening up of the driver focus and proof of the potential in the base package. Potential given an extra boost (if you'll pardon the pun) earlier in the week with news that the GT86 is being prepared for GT4 competitionwith a proper aero package and c. 400hp turbo upgrade.

But for this first TRD model Toyota has seemingly ignored the two major criticisms levelled at the GT86 - price and lack of power - and limited upgrades to a bodykit and styling trinkets while boosting the price to north of £30K.

Which is your cue to start digging out the facepalm image of your choosing for the thread to follow...

More grip, fancy trimmings and a price hike
More grip, fancy trimmings and a price hike
For the record we have bigger 18-inch wheels, skirts, spoilers, a quad-exit exhaust and 'TRD-branded details' for £31,495 for the manual and £32,995 for the auto. So it's grippier, fancier and more expensive. Quite a lot more expensive, given the starting price for the base car is £24,995.

Meanwhile in Japan GT86 and BRZ buyers looking for something more about go than show can have pared back versions with or without cages and actually prepared for track hoonage rather than just looking like they are.

Ho hum, let's just hope the promise of an expanded range of TRD accessories for the UK bears fruit and we get the chance to create our own vision of an upgraded '86.

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em177

Original Poster:

3,131 posts

164 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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What is it with the st wheels Toyota keep releasing! I haven't seen one GT86 on a set of OEM wheels that suits the car.

forzaminardi

2,289 posts

187 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Can you please stop messing about and just let me buy this one:


Husaberk

246 posts

207 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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em177 said:
What is it with the st wheels Toyota keep releasing! I haven't seen one GT86 on a set of OEM wheels that suits the car.
Spot on, way too fussy,

Captain Muppet

8,540 posts

265 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I've love a GT86, but I'd be ashamed to own one with that many exhaust pipes.

mat205125

17,790 posts

213 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Looks great, and look forward to hearing how it drives, and whether it moves the game on to where it arguably should have been from day one.

Price? Hmmmm? Goes without saying that the whole project of the twin cars is more expensive than would have been ideal, however perhaps forgivable given the exchange rate to european currencies.

I think that somewhere between all the domestic derivatives there is an ideal spec for me .... tone down the styling, have the cage, tweek the ride height asthetically, and deliver on some arch filling yet light and modest in width rims .... With a manual box, LSD, and an aftermarket 250bhp forced induction engine.

...... just the price to stop me buying one then!

All joking aside, £30k is what you'd need to plonk yourself into a "normal" specced hot hatch these days, and the price keeps rising if you want a german brand to supply a coupe that won't give half the driving enjoyment of this car. Not so bad value afterall.

Smitters

4,002 posts

157 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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So what we're saying is this is a golden opportunity for Subaru to take charge in the UK market and release the car we all want? I mean, after all, it's a particular type of driver who buys a rwd car like this - it's not an accidental purchase, so we tend, as a market, to know what we'd like. Will they listen? No. Who does the Toyota/Subaru market research? Did they ever stray off Radio 1's Stupid Street?

graeme4130

3,825 posts

181 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Captain Muppet said:
I've love a GT86, but I'd be ashamed to own one with that many exhaust pipes.
That's one pipe per approx 50bhp. That's a poor ratio smile

John145

2,447 posts

156 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Anyone know of a press review of this car where it's actually been driven on the road?

nickfrog

21,088 posts

217 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Maybe it would be a better idea for someone wanting a little more performance to simply use a std car and fit sticky tyres and more aggressive pads ?

I read an US article somewhere where grippier tyres worked very well on a sdt GT86, but obviously I will be insulted by people who have never driven one for daring suggest to ditch the Primacy as it will upset the balance etc...

Big News

1,937 posts

179 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Just a shame they've called it the 'Turd' really.

bicycleshorts

1,939 posts

161 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Does anyone have a full spec? This is what I can find:

carsuk said:
The TRD package on the GT86 adds 18″ cast TF6 alloys (others are available), front and side skirts, a spoiler at the back, new exhaust system with quad pipes, a rear diffuser and ‘TRD’ stamped on the fuel filler cover and gear shift.
Bodykit, fancy exhaust and wheels which are too big (and go against all their other marketing). No sign of any additional power, weight saving, suspension changes, rollcages, differentials or changed gear ratios which their Racing division sure excels at?!

Based on this, TRD have missed a trick and should have called this the GT86 M sport.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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mat205125 said:
Looks great, and look forward to hearing how it drives, and whether it moves the game on to where it arguably should have been from day one.
eh? Not sure I follow. The article states that these changes are mostly body kit and branded trinkets. How on earth do you think that'll change how it drives?? confused

GrumpyTwig

3,354 posts

157 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Yawn, wake me up when they up the power. Till then... ZZZzzzzz

E38Ross

35,051 posts

212 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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mat205125 said:
Looks great, and look forward to hearing how it drives, and whether it moves the game on to where it arguably should have been from day one.

Price? Hmmmm? Goes without saying that the whole project of the twin cars is more expensive than would have been ideal, however perhaps forgivable given the exchange rate to european currencies.

I think that somewhere between all the domestic derivatives there is an ideal spec for me .... tone down the styling, have the cage, tweek the ride height asthetically, and deliver on some arch filling yet light and modest in width rims .... With a manual box, LSD, and an aftermarket 250bhp forced induction engine.

...... just the price to stop me buying one then!

All joking aside, £30k is what you'd need to plonk yourself into a "normal" specced hot hatch these days, and the price keeps rising if you want a german brand to supply a coupe that won't give half the driving enjoyment of this car. Not so bad value afterall.
Except perhaps the M135i. Don't think it'll quite match it for the drive but it's the same price!

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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Sadly I guess the UK will never see the stripped down versions for tack use. Lets face the UK is a H&S hot bed full of old farts that moan about anything that is fun. Not too mention the lets wave SOGA rights at the fist opportunity, even if they have no bearing on the situation.

John145

2,447 posts

156 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
mat205125 said:
Looks great, and look forward to hearing how it drives, and whether it moves the game on to where it arguably should have been from day one.
eh? Not sure I follow. The article states that these changes are mostly body kit and branded trinkets. How on earth do you think that'll change how it drives?? confused
This back box adds 10bhp innit.

E38Ross

35,051 posts

212 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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300bhp/ton said:
eh? Not sure I follow. The article states that these changes are mostly body kit and branded trinkets. How on earth do you think that'll change how it drives?? confused
Did you read the article? It mentions brakes, dampers, struts etc

TommyBuoy

1,269 posts

167 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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I've driven a standard GT86 and liked it - it just wasn't good enough for me to change. I've written about it a couple of times before.

This TRD GT86 is no better. The extra grip could be got from a set of performance tyres and as others have said, new pads and you have the same car but with less plastic on it for a lot cheaper.

If / when a 'performance' tuned GT86 / BRZ is released it will make me take another look, but bodykits and wheels don't make this car anymore attractive to me, certainly for the price hike.

ETA: I realise there are dampers etc, but for the cost of the car I'm not sure many people looking for a track orientated car would overlook a modified GT86.

Benjaminbopper

143 posts

169 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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More grip? Surely the grip / power ratio was what made it fun in the first place?

That price hike is too much, the variety of afteramrket bit's and bobs you could spend £6k on would make it faster and look nicer.

Nothing worse than a fast looking car that is slow IMO.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Friday 8th February 2013
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E38Ross said:
300bhp/ton said:
eh? Not sure I follow. The article states that these changes are mostly body kit and branded trinkets. How on earth do you think that'll change how it drives?? confused
Did you read the article? It mentions brakes, dampers, struts etc
Ok the article is a little unclear. It says they drove some with bits from the TRD catalogue such as dampers. But are they UK models??

As the article then says:

"But for this first TRD model Toyota has seemingly ignored the two major criticisms levelled at the GT86 - price and lack of power - and limited upgrades to a bodykit and styling trinkets while boosting the price to north of £30K."

Which doesn't mention dampers or suspension parts.