RE: Pic Of The Week: Volvo 850 BTCC

RE: Pic Of The Week: Volvo 850 BTCC

Friday 29th March 2013

Pic Of The Week: Volvo 850 BTCC

The first - and only - BTCC estate car is the subject of our image of choice this week



Quite frankly this photo needs no words. It's a Volvo estate on a race track, and that's reason enough for it to be Picture of the Week; a trip down memory lane to a time when the BTCC was essential viewing and took a primetime slot on weekend TV.

Race 'em on Saturday, sell 'em on Monday was never more apt, but in the heyday of the BTCC it was more a case of race 'em on Saturday, straight to the bodyshop on Monday as nudging and jostling was par for the course. Heroes were made of such names as Cleland, Rydell, Tarquini, Sytner and Rouse.

Earlier thie week the flying 850 was posted on our Facebook page and recieved over 600 likes (and counting) making it more than worthy of inclusion on the homepage. Especially considering the 850 T5 Ad Break we ran on Monday. Volvo openly admitted at the time that the BTCC car was a marketing ploy to show the sportier side of Volvo - and boy did it work. Will we ever see the like again?

Enjoy.

Traditional (4:3)
Computer widescreen (16:10)
TV widescreen (16:9)
Portrait (smartphone, etc)

 

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loudlashadjuster

Original Poster:

5,106 posts

184 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I'm no big fan of their cars, but part of me will always hold Volvo dear for having the chutzpah to race the 850 estate. Almost seems like a "did that actually happen?" thing nowadays.

Many happy Knockhill memories watching them!

dave stew

1,502 posts

167 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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loudlashadjuster said:
I'm no big fan of their cars, but part of me will always hold Volvo dear for having the chutzpah to race the 850 estate. Almost seems like a "did that actually happen?" thing nowadays.

Many happy Knockhill memories watching them!
I've had two T5 estates and they are very underrated. Great cars.

crosseyedlion

2,170 posts

198 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Have heard some interesting stories about how they won from the guy responsible for the engines. Lets just say...they had a fair bit more power than people thought and it stretched the rules to the absolute limit with their interpretation.

321lightspeed

34 posts

213 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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The expression was 'Win on Sunday, sell on Monday' coined by the Detroit boys in the 60's. I'm not sure Volvo quite capitalised on it, however it was a memorable bit of kit, and worth reading what TWR did to the engines.

loudlashadjuster

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5,106 posts

184 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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doogz said:
They only raced it for one season, you can't have that many happy memories of it at Knockhill!
My addled brain has difficulty sorting out what happened last week, no wonder it is getting hazy about stuff that happened nearly 20 years ago!

Zuhayb

122 posts

165 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I bought myself Volvo S40 D5 Sport, well satisfied with the car. People think and still say "Grandads car", clearly know one how powerful these T5 and D5 engines are. Like one of the member said, they are under rated!

specialman

40 posts

144 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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loudlashadjuster said:
My addled brain has difficulty sorting out what happened last week, no wonder it is getting hazy about stuff that happened nearly 20 years ago!
They ran 850 saloons for the next two seasons, could be what you're remembering. Then they ran the S40 until 1999 - shame it took the smaller model for Volvo to win a title... would have been historic to see a big, boxy, un-aerodynamic estate taking the silverware smile

supertouring

2,228 posts

233 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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When i researched the 850 for my website, rumours suggested that the only reason for using the estate was due to the prototype used an estate chassis after there being no saloon versions being available.

Steffensen automotive built the prototype, the red one most have seen, and such was the response to it Volvo got TWR to build both a saloon and estate race car. They displayed both to the press when they announced their race programme.

TWR found little difference between the two but the amount of press coverage made Volvo go with the estate for marketting purposes.

They moved to the saloon in 1995 when the new aero rules were introduced which give tge salon an advantage

em177

3,131 posts

164 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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321lightspeed said:
worth reading what TWR did to the engines.
Linky?

dinkel

26,932 posts

258 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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dinkel said:
Dutchie Jan Lammers at the British Touring Car Championship in the Volvo 850 Estate!

JCB123

2,265 posts

196 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Always remember that massive shunt Kelvin Burt had in the saloon....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsOAZxi1S_E

Good old Volvos!

B.J.W

5,782 posts

215 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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For me, the glory days of the BTCC ran from the intro of the Cossies in the late 80's (The appearance of Soper in his black 500 always got the pulse racing) and the group B M3's, through to the multi-make tussles in the early to mid 90's. I have memories of Patrick Watts flipping his Xedos 6 at Silverstone, along with Thompson totalling an Accord as well.

The 850 estates were a marketing exercise, but I recall them being competitive (if only because you couldn't get past them due to their bulk).

My Father's company sponsored a R500 for a while - driven by a chain smoking Le Mans veteran who, from a child's perspective, was as cool as it got. I went to a fair few meetings with my dad, culminating with being flown in to watch the F1 GP at Silverstone. I had a poster of the estate Volvo on my wall (next to Sopers Texaco special).

Happy days

Ian974

2,937 posts

199 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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em177 said:
Linky?
http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=42&t=1023573&mid=97363&i=240&nmt=Engineered+rule+bending&mid=97363

I was looking for it a while back, hopefully link works, there's a pdf linked on page 13 of the thread

ilovevolvo

1,832 posts

224 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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T5-R are best !

m444ttb

3,160 posts

229 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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When the 850 was racing I thought it was one of the coolest cars on the planet! I was 12 though.

Avus Blue

106 posts

133 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I loved this era of touring cars, it was around the time i was really getting into cars. I'm just a bit too young to remember the RS500's and M3's but the 90's supertourers really caught my attention. I went to a Vauxhaul show at castle Combe about 2 years ago and Clelland was running his old Cav around the track. Looked and sounded amazing! I've never seen anything before or since thats gone through the chicanes so flat. Think i may have to dig out the old PS1 and fire up TOCA when i get back from the pub later!

snowen250

1,090 posts

183 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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B.J.W said:
For me, the glory days of the BTCC ran from the intro of the Cossies in the late 80's (The appearance of Soper in his black 500 always got the pulse racing) and the group B M3's, through to the multi-make tussles in the early to mid 90's. I have memories of Patrick Watts flipping his Xedos 6 at Silverstone, along with Thompson totalling an Accord as well.

The 850 estates were a marketing exercise, but I recall them being competitive (if only because you couldn't get past them due to their bulk).

My Father's company sponsored a R500 for a while - driven by a chain smoking Le Mans veteran who, from a child's perspective, was as cool as it got. I went to a fair few meetings with my dad, culminating with being flown in to watch the F1 GP at Silverstone. I had a poster of the estate Volvo on my wall (next to Sopers Texaco special).

Happy days
Sorry to be all supertourer nerdy, but it was Matt Neal who rolled the Xedos 6 at Silverstone in 1994. What was the name of the driver your father sponsored? Wasnt David Brodie was it?

The 850 estate was excellent, This was the pinnacle of the BTCC. Supertourers before the aero was introduced and costs got silly.

Simon

tatters40

26 posts

180 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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I used to work for David Sutton motorsport (Audi Sport UK)on the awesome S1 and E2, Quattros, he managed to fix a ride with Rydell, great hearing the 2ltr N/A 5 Cylinder motor pulling 8500RPM, not quick by any means with 290BHP and 240f/lbs but swift(ish) when up to speed, Rydell was awesome, great great driver and really nice bloke, in fact all the drivers on the day were, really approachable and plenty of tales to tell.
Great series sadly now in the past.

AnonSpoilSport

12,955 posts

176 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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dave stew said:
loudlashadjuster said:
I'm no big fan of their cars, but part of me will always hold Volvo dear for having the chutzpah to race the 850 estate. Almost seems like a "did that actually happen?" thing nowadays.

Many happy Knockhill memories watching them!
I've had two T5 estates and they are very underrated. Great cars.
Me too - well three actually. Brilliant cars. Ultra comfortable mile muncher but really fast and, torque steer aside, very good handling, you could really make the back move, slide and sway in a lovely way on corner entry - a really mobile fun car. Especially the third which I had stripped out, with Nitron coil over suspension and an LSD! That one was on 200,000 miles and counting and the only problem I ever had with any was a battery failure.

Edited by AnonSpoilSport on Friday 29th March 20:10

Baryonyx

17,995 posts

159 months

Friday 29th March 2013
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Fantastic cars and always a pleasure to watch!