RE: Porsche 911 Turbo (930): Driven

RE: Porsche 911 Turbo (930): Driven

Tuesday 30th April 2013

Porsche 911 Turbo (930): Driven

The classic, 80s spec 911 Turbo, revisited. Why? Because it was rude not to.



For lads of the 80s certain posters were a compulsory part of bedroom decoration. A female tennis player with an itchy bottom was always popular. As were supercars. Three, in particular. Lamborghini Countach. Ferrari Testarossa. Porsche 911 Turbo. Somewhere in the loft I still have those cherished images that helped nurture an automotive obsession. [And the other one? - Ed.]

It's an 80s bedroom poster made real
It's an 80s bedroom poster made real
It has been said that it's pretty astonishing that the 911 Turbo ever got built: in the mid 1970s, Germany was in recession as the wider world was reeling from the 1973 oil crisis and the subsequent stock market crash. Hardly conducive to the launch of an opulent, exclusive supercar. There was even strong opposition on the Porsche board, but Ernst Fuhrmann refused to let the Turbo project die. Thankfully.

In the metal
This lovely Guards Red 930 Turbo is a late 1980s model. 1988 to be specific, meaning I'd have been 10 when it was made and that it misses out on the G50 five-speed transmission. Its 3.3-litre blown six gives 300hp in a car weighing 1,300kg. The official figures say 0-60 in a whisker over five seconds. Top speed just the other side of 160mph. Not that far above hot hatch territory these days, but at the time, pretty epic. The shape, clumsy impact bumpers aside, is wonderful. Curvy, muscular, pure. Gorgeous Fuchs wheels and set off by the mother of all rear spoilers to let you know that this one was the boss.

300hp healthy enough in a car this size
300hp healthy enough in a car this size
The cabin feels light and surprisingly spacious. There's plenty of legroom, even for powerfully built six-footers, and you sit quite upright, with a commanding view over one of the most iconic vistas in motoring, enhanced as you check the door mirror and see the fat curve of the rear arch and a slab of tea tray rear wing.

The car fires instantly and settles into a relatively muted idle with just a hint of bassline throb. The dinky steering wheel is just where you want it, the pedals barely offset. OK, the seemingly random placing of minor switchgear leaves a lot to be desired but, hey, it's all part of the charm.

Muscle car
There is always some surprise at the heft required to manoeuvre at low speeds. Chunky rubber and no power assistance on the steering equates to a brief forearm workout until up and running.

Colour-coded dials unlikely to please style police
Colour-coded dials unlikely to please style police
Pottering in the Turbo is a doddle. But leaves you wondering where the power has gone. Off boost performance is modest and when you consider that covers the first 50 per cent of the rev range, you could spend a lot of time feeling short-changed. It is also very weird driving a car with precisely half the gears of a new BMW 5 Series.

So you need to pay attention to the rev counter, made easier by it taking pride of place directly in front of you in the constellation of VDO dials (and bright red in this machine to match the bodywork - not standard issue, I hasten to add).

Below 3K there is naff all, by three and a half you can feel the storm building and the boost gauge at the bottom of the rev counter is swinging in to life. By 4,000rpm the KKK 'charger is boosting at 0.8 bar and the acceleration goes ballistic.

Still got it
Don't be tempted to shift up early - do so under 6,000rpm and you risk dropping back out of the power band. Be brave, use the whole of the tacho before grabbing the next cog and the acceleration is seamless and potent. Of course a current Turbo would blow it into the weeds but make no mistake: even in 2013, this feels like a very fast car indeed.

Whizz-bang power delivery key to the charm
Whizz-bang power delivery key to the charm
As a hot-hatch driving kid, the preferred method of hooning generally centred around chucking one's underpowered shopping cart into corners as aggressively as possible in the effort to create excitement and/or oversteer. That is not a technique I'd particularly recommend when piloting somebody else's 930 Turbo and it's fair to say later years driving 911s has had a big influence on my driving style.

Get your braking done early, feed the car and power into the apex smoothly and hook up those massive rear boots you can feel the car sit and grip. As you accelerate traction increases still further as you apply more power, sitting the car even harder onto its rear tyres.

Junk in the trunk
As the nose lightens the wheel chirps and chatters to you over the texture of the road surface in a truly unique way. The volume and clarity of information being relayed from tarmac to fingertip is remarkable and an integral part of the experience.

As is that whiff of danger that always hangs over any older 911. Stir in the laggy delivery and the sheer on-boost thrust and you can understand how the Turbo might have punished the unwary or overambitious. Keep it smooth and unless you brake too deep or spool the turbo up suddenly mid-corner, you are unlikely to have problems.

917-derived brakes offer great pedal feel
917-derived brakes offer great pedal feel
After driving too many too big modern machines, the compact dimensions of the 930 are a delight. As mentioned earlier, you don't feel cramped in the cockpit but the roads seem much larger, opening up space to move and modify your cornering attitude without having to cross the white line.

Size matters
The brakes are fabulous, too. The pedal is firm but the action linear and outright stopping power is pretty impressive - this setup was adapted from the 917. You can't just brush off the speed with a dab as in modern 911s, but you can measure your braking effort perfectly, right up to the limits of the tyres' performance.

Is there a hint of rose-tint to my Turbo drive? Probably. It's a beautiful day on terrific North Yorkshire roads and this is a car I have drooled over since childhood. It's not the first one I've driven but nor is it, I hope, the last.

A man could have worse days out
A man could have worse days out
They say you should never meet your heroes. Rubbish. I have been fortunate enough to drive all three of those childhood poster cars. None are perfect. All have flaws. But every one has provided an indelible and cherished motoring memory. Where the 911 Turbo differs significantly is in its sheer usability. It's durable and practical enough to actually enjoy it on a regular basis, rather than as a sunny Sunday 'event' car.

It is also, in today's market, a conspicuous bargain. OK, the £45K asked for this caris hardly pocket change, but when you compare it to the money being fetched by RS models and even boggo 993s and 964s, it seems pretty low. And I simply can't imagine that it won't increase significantly over time - just look where Testarossa and Countach prices have been heading. A wonderful investment that you can use and enjoy in the meantime. A poster-boy for a generation. A game-changing motoring icon. And I'll wager it's aged a darn sight better than that tennis player...


Porsche 911 (930) Turbo
Engine:
3,299cc flat-6 turbocharged
Transmission: 4-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power: 300hp@5,500rpm
Torque: 318lb ft@4,000rpm
0-60mph: 5.1 seconds
Top speed: 162mph
Weight: 1,300kg
MPG: N/A
Price (used): c. £45,000


Thanks to John Hawkins of Specialist Cars and sales manager/snapper Mark Mullen for the loan of the car and the pictures.

   
   
   

 

 

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Mermaid

Original Poster:

21,492 posts

171 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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More posters of this Turbo version than any other, for good reason.


1300 kgs, amazing.

405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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If you CC the wheels - the dials are hardly a style crime.

That is, quite simply, lovely - I think it's even shrugged-off the "stripey brace-wearing dhead" stigma over the years...

As for your tennis player...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1368795/...

LouD86

3,279 posts

153 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Good write up, and fantastic pictures from Mark as per usual!!

My parents had one of these when I was a child, I miss it sorely!! I have some pictures Ill scan in, me at 8 years old stood proudly infront of it on the drive (next to the maestro).


405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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LouD86 said:
I have some pictures Ill scan in, me at 8 years old stood proudly infront of it on the drive (next to the maestro).
We demand you head over to Malton - in matching clothing - for a then-and-now prove-it-with-custard shot...

mr2j

516 posts

158 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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I'm not a Porsche fanboy but the 930 turbo sounds like my kind of motoring. Ridiculous money for what it is, though.

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Nice.

Perfect 10.

BlimeyCharlie

901 posts

142 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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No doubt we will be flooded by a hosepipe of 'tricky handling' comments, but I still feel too much fuss is made of 911 handling 'shortcomings'. There are none.

A 911, especially a 911 turbo, is a special product and needs to be approached baring in mind the basic principle of weight distribution and physics.

Anyone can spin a car, or end up in a hedge, but this is basic human error, nothing else. A lack of understanding what to do, or not to do.

You don't see Walter Rohrl, Jimmy McRae etc spinning their 911's because of 'handling' issues.
I had a 911 turbo ( a 964 model turbo) and it was brilliant. Everything I wanted and more.

The most dangerous car I've ever had was a Skoda Felicia 1.3, with lift-off oversteer at 25 mph on large roundabouts, when some clown would force you to, er, lift-off when you didn't want to at 35mph. That was the only car I've ever had that would bite. Even radically changing tyre pressures didn't help. So I sold it. That cured the handling for me.

Other cars famed for being potential deathtraps are 205 GTI's, which again would be lift-off oversteer.

The worst part of any car's handling is the lack of understanding of physics from the driver.






405dogvan

5,326 posts

265 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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A friend of mine would be your "handling is lethal" man - he owned a period 911 Turbo and claimed it tried to kill him several times.

That said, he once wrote-off a Toyota Supra Turbo on a testdrive - came out of a corner, got it straight, floored-it and the back-end lit-up and carried the car over a hedge and into a field.

I think it MIGHT be the driver...

Dusty964

6,920 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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The road car that sparked my interest in cars (the very first was a 934). I was taken out in a turbo when I was an 8 year old, and can still remember it vividly.
They remain very high on the wish list- if a 964 turbo is unavailable- as it's still perfectly usable as an everyday car.
The 911 is surely unique as being a sportscar that has been around nearly half as long as the car itself.
A true motoring icon.

Ved

3,825 posts

175 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Good grief, what a car smile Would love to have a bit of a Harris-video action involving one of these things.

markCSC

2,987 posts

215 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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article said:
And I'll wager it's aged a darn sight better than that tennis player...
She has not done too badly smile





Edited by markCSC on Tuesday 30th April 11:16

MikeG88

148 posts

133 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Hopefully they wont spray paint the car white.

vrooom

3,763 posts

267 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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More exciting era for cars, now all car are very dull.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Too much red.

And SOOOO many £££.

You could have your pick of the modern Aston stable for that money. In fact you could have pretty much anything on your drive for that money.

(I know, it's a 911 and it's iconic and it's a special car, but for it's age, £££££££)

(And yes it's better than my car and it's a car I will never be able to afford or even ever have the chance to sit in, but it's my instant reaction. And I love 911's.)

Dusty964

6,920 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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OpulentBob said:
Too much red.

And SOOOO many £££.

You could have your pick of the modern Aston stable for that money. In fact you could have pretty much anything on your drive for that money.

(I know, it's a 911 and it's iconic and it's a special car, but for it's age, £££££££)

(And yes it's better than my car and it's a car I will never be able to afford or even ever have the chance to sit in, but it's my instant reaction. And I love 911's.)
I'm in full agreement with the red- bloody awful, especially on the dials.
I also agree it's a lot of cash, but...whilst you could have any modern Aston, you couldn't have any of the classics? And I guess that's the point of this? Surely this will continue appreciating, whilst remaining fun, usable and pretty iconic.
Please don't think I'm being argumentative- I agree with your opinion, but in my eyes, you can't compare this with a new car.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Dusty964 said:
OpulentBob said:
Too much red.

And SOOOO many £££.

You could have your pick of the modern Aston stable for that money. In fact you could have pretty much anything on your drive for that money.

(I know, it's a 911 and it's iconic and it's a special car, but for it's age, £££££££)

(And yes it's better than my car and it's a car I will never be able to afford or even ever have the chance to sit in, but it's my instant reaction. And I love 911's.)
I'm in full agreement with the red- bloody awful, especially on the dials.
I also agree it's a lot of cash, but...whilst you could have any modern Aston, you couldn't have any of the classics? And I guess that's the point of this? Surely this will continue appreciating, whilst remaining fun, usable and pretty iconic.
Please don't think I'm being argumentative- I agree with your opinion, but in my eyes, you can't compare this with a new car.
Not at all. I didn't want to seem like a moaner for the sake of it. And your last sentence is probably what I was forgetting!

LouD86

3,279 posts

153 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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405dogvan said:
LouD86 said:
I have some pictures Ill scan in, me at 8 years old stood proudly infront of it on the drive (next to the maestro).
We demand you head over to Malton - in matching clothing - for a then-and-now prove-it-with-custard shot...
I dont think you can buy the clothing my parents put me in at that age! I think there is possibly about 13st, and 2ft in height difference! I can custard it outside the same house with my MX5

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

144 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Is that the road to Castle Howard? Looks very familiar wink

johnyboy1976

141 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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When i did work experience when i was 14 the boss of the company i was at had one of these - and in red - it was gorgeous.
Was the car that started my love for all things 911 - at the end of the 2 weeks he took me out for a drive in it - absolutely awesome car.

Dagnut

3,515 posts

193 months

Tuesday 30th April 2013
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Nice write up, thanks