RE: Porsche 911 Turbo (997): PH Carpool

RE: Porsche 911 Turbo (997): PH Carpool

Monday 29th July 2013

Porsche 911 Turbo (997): PH Carpool

A German-based PHer with the perfect weapon for Autobahn fun



Name: Pete
Car: Porsche 997 Turbo
Owned since: February 2013
Previously owned: E92 M3, SEAT Leon x2, Merc 230E

Decals aren't likely to stay the course
Decals aren't likely to stay the course
Why I bought it:
"When I was little I promised myself a Ferrari when I was 30. As I grew up, the Ferraris I wanted became far too expensive so I needed something realistic.

"I was addicted to racing games when I was little and one of my favourites was Need for Speed Porsche Challenge. This started the desire to obtain a Porsche but only one with 'GT' or 'Turbo' on the rump.

"After spending the winter looking for the correct spec, I had all but given up. The car had to have adaptive seats, an LSD, manual, PCM3 and be any colour apart from black! My brother found my car sitting at a Ferrari dealer just outside Munich. The following day an appointment was made and I embarked on an 800km round trip to view the car."

What I wish I'd known:
"Virtually all my research was done here on PH. There was a lot of good advice given as I was torn between a GTS and a Turbo. A combination of the advice on here and a lot of help from my brother convinced me that the Turbo was the way forward.

"I also used some German forums and some based in the USA but they were generally for modifications, wheels etc."

The ideal supercar, whatever the weather
The ideal supercar, whatever the weather
Things I love:
"The speed and handling. After having a chance to drive my old M3 again it felt very disconnected and huge when compared to the Porsche. Early Sunday morning blasts along the Autobahn have been fun as well as driving through the local hills in Hessen. Although the noise is much maligned, I like it. From inside there is a lovely mechanical chatter that is totally different from the M3 and I find it loud enough in tunnels. I also like the reception the car gets. People point, wave, take pictures and always come up and chat when I'm filling up which I am still getting used to, although on my first trip back to the UK last weekend I was given the 'coffee beans' whilst driving along."

Things I hate:
"Hate is a bit too strong. I didn't like the standard wheels at first but they have slowly grown on me. Practicality is very good but not as good as it could be (according to my girlfriend!). Having to own the car for three months before having the Porsche Guarantee is a bit unfair. The whole nonsense with regard to wheels and tyres is a bugbear but dealers are a lot more lenient in Germany. I also dislike the 'Turbo' script written down the sides. I know it is 'iconic' but I don't think it suits the 997 model. It will be coming off in the summer when I have some paint correction done and a clear film added."

Interesting conditions for a first drive
Interesting conditions for a first drive
Costs:
"So far costs have been reasonable and no more expensive than the M3 was. My local garage in Hofheim (I doubt many PHers use them) is very good and the service personnel are all Porsche nuts who love track days. Insurance was eye wateringly expensive compared to the UK."

Where I've been:
"Nowhere yet, but I have two track days at the 'ring coming up and then Spa in September or October for two days. I am going to try and do a couple of days in the UK this summer too.

"The first drive was memorable. Starnberg to Garmisch only using the back roads after a very large dump of snow and then the Autobahn back to Starnberg. Everything was going well until I lost boost about 10 minutes from my hotel!"

What next?
"I don't know really. If I can then either a Ferrari 360CS, MP4 12C, or a practical car (RS6, etc) and what I really wanted but was vetoed by my girlfriend as an only car, a second-gen GT3 RS in blue with gold accents."

 

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rob.e

Original Poster:

2,861 posts

278 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Lovely car.

What's the "whole nonsense with regard to wheels and tyres" about then?

Krikkit

26,527 posts

181 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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rob.e said:
What's the "whole nonsense with regard to wheels and tyres" about then?
I apologise to the Porsche beards if I'm wrong, but iirc you have to have Porsche-approved tyres ("N"-marked) fitted to approved wheels to retain warranty (and possibly insurance, not sure on that).

MarJay

2,173 posts

175 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Shame someone gave him the 'coffee beans' here in the UK. Why can't people just appreciate a thing of beauty?

4a4

213 posts

135 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Stunning car smile I agree - lose the turbo side script, and get your wheels refurbished in white as well!

TobesH

550 posts

207 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I'm an immature child but this did me laugh out loud this morning, I mean, imagine if it was banned!

Friggatron

21 posts

129 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Please excuse my ignorance, but what does 'giving me the coffee beans' mean?

Friggatron

21 posts

129 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Oh, and stunning car Pete. Read an article once about one of these competing with a bike on a track somewhere. Needless to say, the Porsche beat the bike, and the rider said that he could actually feel the heat of the cars engine while he was chasing. I don't know why, but I always thought that was pretty cool. And agreed, lose the decals, but i'd be tempted to get the side vents done in black.....

baptistsan

1,839 posts

210 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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The answer is in the pic above!

Someone seems to think the Turbo owner pleasures himself.

Think the car looks great, imho leave the script on. I like it, lots.

yojay

61 posts

164 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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MarJay said:
Shame someone gave him the 'coffee beans' here in the UK. Why can't people just appreciate a thing of beauty?
What does giving the 'coffee beans' mean? Feeling a bit clueless!

Bill Ferry

64 posts

154 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Lovely car, my personal favourite.. and especially in white.
The standard wheels look best to me.. I hate to see the modern thing of black wheels.. so ugly.
Fashion eh..
[just saying.. NO fatwahs' please]
WF
Although I could be very tempted by a set Fuchs alloys from JZ......
Lovely.

Frimley111R

15,650 posts

234 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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yojay said:
MarJay said:
Shame someone gave him the 'coffee beans' here in the UK. Why can't people just appreciate a thing of beauty?
What does giving the 'coffee beans' mean? Feeling a bit clueless!
hehe Imagine putting some coffee beans in your hand, closing your hand and then shaking them wink (Its a reference to the old Nescafe coffee advert iirc)

Friggatron

21 posts

129 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Frimley111R said:
hehe Imagine putting some coffee beans in your hand, closing your hand and then shaking them wink (Its a reference to the old Nescafe coffee advert iirc)
Thanks Frimley smile I had considered that, but couldn't be sure

Carnnoisseur

531 posts

154 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I actually really like that as is, the decals look well. Noted regarding the possible future purchase of the GT RS "blue with gold" decals, I saw one in Knightsbridge quite recently, looked divine.

Still laughing about "coffee beans", never heard that before....

iluvmercs

7,541 posts

227 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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This "Carpool" was written a couple months ago.

The car has since visited the 'Ring and I can confirm it is fantastically fast, even with the driver taking it easy!
Also, the back seat can take at 17st 6'2 human biggrin

Darren (the author's brother with the powers of persuasion wink )

Edited by iluvmercs on Monday 29th July 12:56

P4ROT

1,219 posts

193 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Stunning car, but you seem to have glossed over the losing boost thing- or am I just thick?

Por911T

461 posts

219 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Just back from The Silverstone Classic in mine last night - round trip and back to Scotland 790 miles in two days ! Super quick ......... I fitted a s/s exhaust to mine to improve the sound.

sticks090460

1,077 posts

158 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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I absolutely love mine. Extremely comfortable, practical for what it is, and fast. Very, very fast indeed. Generated more interest at a party on Saturday than the brand new DB9 I parked it next to. Did I mention it was fast........?

NAS

2,543 posts

231 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Cool to read and see the pics. I do love the run up to the Feldberg biggrin

PZ Hofheim do seem like a relaxed lot, especially compared to Frankfurt. Stopped by there a few times to have a nose round. They have a lot more old stuff floating around too, which I like.

vinnie83

3,367 posts

193 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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sticks090460 said:
I absolutely love mine. Extremely comfortable, practical for what it is, and fast. Very, very fast indeed. Generated more interest at a party on Saturday than the brand new DB9 I parked it next to. Did I mention it was fast........?
Really?

I remember the day I picked mine up I drove behind a ~10 year old Ferrari 550 - everyone was turning and pointing at the Ferrari, and didn't even notice me behind them!

I have noticed that young boys love the car, petrolheads love the car, but other than that, most people think it's just a basic Porsche.

I'd be shocked if it got more attention than any Aston!

Gordon06

2 posts

140 months

Monday 29th July 2013
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Hi Pete,

congrats to the new "family member". Just one question: This example isn't the one that was located at Mille Miglia Motors in Starnberg?

Regards,
Gordon