RE: Aston Martin V12 Vantage S: Review

RE: Aston Martin V12 Vantage S: Review

Thursday 17th October 2013

Aston Martin V12 Vantage S: Review

911 Turbo too clinical and desensitised for you? Aston Martin has an answer



“This is the car the 911 could have been!” It takes quite a lot for PH to turn down a slice of apple pie. But a chance to ride alongside Aston Martin boss Ulrich Bez at a coffee stop on the launch for the V12 Vantage S is too good to miss. Especially when he’s in full flow. “It is absolutely everything I always wanted in an Aston Martin!” he continues in a brief pause before another Banzai overtake and howl of rung-out V12.

See, colours other than yellow are offered
See, colours other than yellow are offered
As retirement presents go it beats an engraved pocket watch, that’s for sure.

But better than a 911? Really?

Up yours
As it stands the V12 Vantage S is flicked vees at both the new GT3 and Turbo S and represents a very exciting way to spend £140K if you fear the latest uber Porsches have traded tech for soul.

Let’s get this out of the way first. The V12 Vantage isn’t perfect. But incremental engineering changes mean it’s a night and day step up from the previous V12 Vantage. And what niggles remain can now be more generously appraised as characterful than irritating.

Levering that signature 6.0-litre V12 into the Vantage was a long-held dream of Bez’s. Many at Aston said it couldn’t be done. After emerging white faced from driving it a few might have wished it hadn’t. It wasn’t a bad car. And it was definitely an exciting one. But the leap from that car to this new Vantage S shows just how much room for improvement there actually was.

And if you fear fast cars have gotten a bit aloof and uninvolving this is the vehicle you need in your life.

573hp here and 205mph potential
573hp here and 205mph potential
Lurch, clunk
First impressions aren’t great though. Now solely equipped with a seven-speed Sportshift III automated manual – transaxle mounted and now air cooled – progress through Palm Springs traffic is punctuated by the kind of head-noddingly slow ‘auto’ shifts most would consider a relic of a bygone age. A lift mitigates the worst but in auto mode you have to try and second guess when this is going to happen.

You’ll forgive this car pretty much anything the first time you open the taps though. AMG tie-up and turbo engines on the horizon or not it reasserts Aston’s place as a builder of cars that can be both classy and uncouth.

If it’s muted and weighed down in the Rapide, DB9 and Vanquish in the Vantage the Aston V12 is finally let off the leash. Based on the significantly revised AM11 in the Vanquish but described as AM28 thanks to a heavily reworked ECU it’s animalistic as you’d hope. The peakiness blunted in the bigger, heavier models is negated and there’s a ferocious appetite for revs not seen in other applications. You can pootle around in D without having pressed the Sport button and think this was a reasonably refined car.

S brings adaptive dampers to the Vantage range
S brings adaptive dampers to the Vantage range
Sorry, what was that?
But with the exhausts opened and the new backbox bypassed it’s suitably bonkers, the relative lack of weight letting the car pick up speed like no other V12 Aston and with it the revs spinning up from a bassy, muscular tickover through angry mid-range to frankly terrifying top end. It’s at its best if you shift up before getting too close to the redline, keeping it in the 5,000rpm range where its most potent output lurks.

By which point you’re going quick enough to be considering the implications of a night or two with Bubba in the cells if the Highway Patrol are waiting. Because they’ll have heard you coming from some distance away.

The previous V12 Vantage did all this too of course. But never quite felt able to put its excess of power down properly, hampered by over-stiff springs and a choppy ride. The wet roads of Wales are a very different testing ground from the arid Californian desert but previous experience of a death grip on the wheel and constant flashing from the DSC light is forgotten as the Vantage shows a new level of sophistication. Yes, it can actually deal with the power now. Which is nice.

Black 'centenary grille' marks S out from the front
Black 'centenary grille' marks S out from the front
Nip and tuck
The changes are extensive if relatively subtle, adding up to a big change in character. The Graziano ’box and new rear silencer (little used in our tenure) chop, respectively, 25kg and 7kg from the rear of the car, shifting the weight balance forwards a little to 52:48 from 51:49. Springs have been backed off by around five per cent, the Sport mid setting on the three-stage adjustable dampers equating approximately with the previous fixed rate passive items. Air cooling for the gearbox means three extra horsepower going to the wheels rather than the previous oil cooling circuit, like they were needed, and the V12 Vantage S gets  Servotronic steering for the first time. Aston changed the previous 17:1 rack to a 15:1 item used in the Rapide and Vanquish with the Vantage S and ‘MY12.5’ Vantage upgrades and though faster geared it's lighter, making the front end feel much more direct than before.

Yep, it's paddles or nothing in the V12 S
Yep, it's paddles or nothing in the V12 S
Weighting varies according to which of the three damper modes you’ve selected but unless you’ve really over-estimated your corner entry speed the extra 80kg of the V12 engine over the V8 and its position over rather than behind the steering rack rarely translate into nose-heavy understeer.

And, even if you have, the ability to trail the brakes with your left foot and pick up the throttle early with your right means it’s easy to dial this out. Meanwhile the ‘Track’ mid-way DSC setting allows you to exploit the short wheelbase and punchy torque delivery without expensive excursions into the undergrowth. True hairy chested heroes can, of course, switch it off entirely and be rewarded with oversteer on demand.

Manual labour
Meaning for all the blunderbuss subtly of such a massive engine in a relatively tiny car the V12 Vantage S has a much broader operating window. You can tickle it along in the quiet exhaust mode, short shifting and riding the torque and make relatively discreet but still massive progress. Or open it all up, go mental and enjoy one of the most thrilling powertrains around.

Uprated Brembos use tech from One-77
Uprated Brembos use tech from One-77
Do you miss the manual? Actually no. It was always a bit unwieldy anyway, the paddles allowing you to focus more on the rest of the car and the gritty, mechanical nature of the automated manual meaning there’s still plenty of interaction even if you’re not actually moving the clutch yourself. Hypocritical after all the GT3 soul searching? Not really; it’s a question of the right gearbox in the right car and the combination of significant weight saving and a punchy, exciting power delivery mean it’s the appropriate transmission for this car.

And that’s what it’s all about. Manufacturers talk a lot about reducing noise, vibration and harshness but in the V12 Vantage S’s case these seem attributes to celebrate and enjoy, not smother behind electronic smokescreens, flatter with driver assistance gizmos and mask with sound proofing.

Going fast should be exciting and, just every now and then, a little bit scary. The V12 Vantage S celebrates this, and in spectacular style. So we’ll forgive a Bez a bit of hyperbole and let him live out his retirement in fitting style.

A quick taste here...



ASTON MARTIN V12 VANTAGE S
Engine:
5,935cc V12
Transmission: 7-speed automated manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 573@6,750rpm
Torque (lb ft): 457@5,750rpm
0-62mph : 3.7sec
Top speed: 205mph
Weight: 1,740kg (with 75kg driver)
MPG: 19.2mpg (NEDC combined)
CO2: 343g/km
Price: £138,000

Author
Discussion

sanctum

Original Poster:

191 posts

175 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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If I sold the house, I might just be able to afford one of these. And I'd be one of the happiest men alive. and maybe the smelliest.

ess

791 posts

178 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Still one of the most beautiful cars currently in production, even after all these years.
Proportionally faultless.

Bill Carr

2,234 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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My favourite modern Aston. Love the big engine/small car combo

Jonny TVR

4,534 posts

281 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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I keep looking at the lowest priced V12 vantage in classifieds but still can't quite afford it as a second car particularly with my pending divorce! .... one day soon

RoverP6B

4,338 posts

128 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Somehow I've never really got on with the Vantage styling wise. It's too cutesy. The glazing is about as generous as that in a pillbox, too. Sorry, but I'll take a Ferrari 550/575 manual and a significant chunk of change.

Has it come to this, that we can't buy a modern British GT with a manual 'box?

Ah, thank God for Mr Morgan!

ChrisPap

395 posts

154 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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I didn't think the original V12 Vantage was bad in the slightest. It already made the Porsche opposition feel slow and boring.
If this car really is a step forward in all directions it must be truly epic.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

234 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Its lost its looks. Like the glamorous female Hollywood stars of the sixties, the Vantage has had one facelift too many.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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lick If only i had the money frown

krisdelta

4,566 posts

201 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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It's a shame there is no manual option, it may well be the last we see of a V12 "baby" Aston with AMG on the horizon, I think this will make the first V12V a classic in a few years time. The noise from these is unbelievable - having seen the early ones at Spa, you can barely credit the noise as road legal.

belleair302

6,843 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Will be great ride in three years time but for the money today I would sadly be going elsewhere if buying new! Bentley V8 anybody, AMG Merc or M6 with a few mods?

smilo996

2,791 posts

170 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Does that sound and look amazing. With those changes I would reckon that the owner would never get rid of it and in 30 years it will be a classic, exspecially as Aston Martin will no longer be making cars but adding panels to AMG's drivetrains. How sad they had to go to AMG of all people to get a next generation engine. Keep the Porsche, in fact all of them. F Type, new TVR's and this, British Sports Cars are looking great.

GroundEffect

13,836 posts

156 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Good GOD the amount of want.

EggsBenedict

1,770 posts

174 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Lovely, lovely car. Of course you should be trying to fit the largest possible engine to the smallest possible car - that's obvious smile

Nearly lost me at the word 'gotten' though? WTF is that? Didn't your English teachers teach you to avoid 'get' and 'got' along with 'nice'? So many alternatives, all of them better.

bogie

16,384 posts

272 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Yep, that will do nicely ...although still plain black all over will be fine for me, no need for fancy painted panels, or clear rear lights thanks


DaveL485

2,758 posts

197 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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That noise cloud9

k-ink

9,070 posts

179 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Stunning machine. I'd adore one over any Porsche or Ferrari. Cool as hell.

gibbon

2,182 posts

207 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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belleair302 said:
Bentley V8 anybody, AMG Merc or M6 with a few mods?
Then this is not the car for you. A modified M6? Really?

mrdemon

21,146 posts

265 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

add a vote here :-)



Edited by mrdemon on Wednesday 16th October 09:38

Ali_T

3,379 posts

257 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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A stunning car wearing too much make up.



Edited by Ali_T on Wednesday 16th October 11:45

toppstuff

13,698 posts

247 months

Wednesday 16th October 2013
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Love it love it love it love it love it love love it.










But I wish it had a manual box. Lets face it, this car is simply not as good as its competitors. But this really does not matter. It should therefore stop trying to pretend it is a competitor and stick to what is does best. The single clutch box is horrible compared to a modern DSG, so stop trying to compete. Make it a manual. Play to its strengths. It would make it more desirable, not less. That my opinion, anyway.



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