RE: Caterham Seven 160: Review

RE: Caterham Seven 160: Review

Tuesday 22nd October 2013

Caterham Seven 160: Review

The back to basics Caterham Seven 160 versus an autumnal Raticosa Pass - PH holds on tight



Anyone who thinks 80hp isn't enough needs to experience the new Caterham Seven 160 on a sodden, foggy Futa Pass. On 155 section tyres, glassy tarmac and a fresh covering of wet leaves 80hp seems plenty, ta very much.

UK-spec version gets front and side screens
UK-spec version gets front and side screens
Downhill corners are scary given turn-in rests on two tiny contact patches and if you overburden them with braking and/or momentum they're easily overwhelmed. But once the front end is pointing roughly where you want it the options open up because even that meagre power output has no trouble at all overwhelming the skinny little Avons on their cute 14-inch steel rims.

Power comes in urgent little bursts, the turbo prompting enough coughs and sneezes from under the bonnet to consider a sachet of Lemsip for the tank. Slides come thick and fast, most deliberately provoked and easily caught but it's a busy old job in these conditions. Kind of like driving a Superlight, just in slow motion.

Innocent fun. Or, to follow the official line, 'accessible fun' given the £14,995 entry price. In what's been a busy year for new Seven variants word of a back to basics version first appeared in May. Headlines include that 80hp power output and corresponding 79lb ft of torque, narrower rear track, the gearbox and live rear axle from a Suzuki Jimny to replace the Marina one of old and a kerb weight of just 490kg. A factory built UK 160 will cost £17,995, undercutting the £19,995 kit price (£22,995 built) of the 125hp 1.6 Sigma-engined Roadsport by a significant margin.

Neither of which help here - Futa? FUBAR.
Neither of which help here - Futa? FUBAR.
Down to earth
And demonstrates how, despite the Alpine collaboration and lofty promises from owner Tony Fernandes of SUVs and more, Caterham's ambitions still rest firmly on the shoulders of a decades old Lotus cast-off. Whether it's on steelies or clothed in wind tunnel honed carbon bodywork like the AeroSeventhat stretches the format to the opposite extreme.

A curious mix of the archaic and modern, the 160 is a cost-conscious parts bin special in the best Seven tradition, held together with some pukka engineering in the calibration of its Suzuki 660cc turbocharged engine by Caterham Technology and Innovation (CTI) to meet export-friendlyemissions targets in Europe and Japan, where the 165 counts as a Kei car. Tokyo hipsters are going to love it.

Bigger picture, it's exactly a year to the day since we drove the experimental Ecoboost engined Seven, proof that even the humble Caterham can't escape the pressures for downsizing, turbos and fuel efficiency. That car had nearly double the power of this one and despite the existing relationship with Ford as an engine supplier Caterham has sought a new partnership with Suzuki, the fact a crate Ecoboost engine costs nearly three times as much as a Sigma demonstrating why this route was chosen.

Daft regs mean wind deflector only for export 165
Daft regs mean wind deflector only for export 165
Forcing our hand
The Ecoboost car
was an interesting novelty but, really, do we want our Sevens turbocharged? The 620R uses a supercharger, paired a 2.0-litre Duratec and delivering a searing mix of normally aspirated surge and forced induction punch. Most of all it's linear in its power delivery. There's a lot of it but that Seven adjustability and predictability are there, just at much, much higher speeds.

With just 660cc the turbo is doing proportionally much more of the legwork here, the fear being that lag and sudden swells of boost might upset the delicate balance of the Seven's handling.

The first car we drive is a 165, complete with the aero screen European homologation rules require. For some ludicrous reason the standard screen doesn't comply with field of vision regs, the mirror on top of the dash of the 165 doing a far more effective job of blocking your view. With just 300 miles on the clock the engine feels tight and thrashy revving beyond 5,000rpm, though it will in fact buzz its way round to 7,000. Most of the action is between 4,000-5,500rpm though, this high-rev harshness and narrow band of action meaning finding a sweet spot for corners is a challenge.

Once above the clouds the situation improves
Once above the clouds the situation improves
Leave it in a higher gear and it bogs down, shift down to early and it thrashes uncomfortably. With 1,600 miles on the clock the UK spec 160 feels a lot more at ease with itself, the power band wider and more exploitable. It still feels wrong entering a corner in fourth with less stabilising engine braking but the engine will pull strongly enough on the way out, meaning you adopt either a more relaxed gait or frantic thrashy one according to mood.

If the general vibe and surroundings are classic Seven the hissing, cooing and chuffing from under the bonnet most definitely isn't. We'll wait until we've tried one with a few thousand miles on the clock before making a definitive judgement but it's harder to find a flow with the turbocharged engine than it is with the Sigma or Duratec cars. It's less a question of power - 163hp per tonne (minus driver, adjust according to how powerfully built you are) is the same ballpark as an MX-5 or GT86 - and more about how it's delivered.

Tiny Suzuki engine opens up export options
Tiny Suzuki engine opens up export options
Chuffing brilliant
In the normally aspirated cars you're happy snapping the stumpy gearlever this way and that and the car never seems to complain. Here you have to second-guess where you're going to end up in the rev range, less because of any lag but more because it just doesn't seem to like those downshifts into corners that buzz up into the higher reaches. The second to third shift demands a firm hand too.

Where it does impress is in its delicacy and poise though, those ultra skinny tyres offering a completely different feel to anything else on the road. If you've ever driven a Smart Roadster - especially one of the basic ones on steel wheels - the noise and vibe will feel familiar, the ability to shift gears yourself in the Seven most welcome though.

There's a delightfully old-school sense of wriggle and squirm through the Seven's wheel and chassis, albeit tied down with more sophistication than the basic design would suggest. You might sit atop that live axle but it doesn't bounce or shuffle as you might expect and the undiluted messages between pedals, tyres and steering are all pure Seven and totally uncorrupted.

You want minimalist? We can do minimalist
You want minimalist? We can do minimalist
It can't quite exhilarate like its bigger-engined brothers but a 25 per cent cost saving suddenly makes it much more affordable. And, truth be told, the whole package lives up to the Seven's minimalist mantra much more convincingly than its carbon-bodied concept brother.

 

 

 

 


CATERHAM SEVEN 160/165
Engine:
660cc 3-cyl turbocharged
Transmission: 5-speed manual, rear-wheel drive
Power (hp): 80@7,000rpm
Torque (lb ft): 79@3,400rpm
0-62mph: 6.5sec
Top speed: 100mph
Weight: 490kg
MPG: TBC
CO2: TBC
Price: £14,995 inc. VAT kit, £17,995 inc. VAT built


A little taster clip of the Caterham and the conditions (apologies for the wind noise - authentic at least):
 












 

 

Author
Discussion

Miura Anjin

Original Poster:

70 posts

161 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Finally!

TWPC

842 posts

161 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Those wheels/tyres - fantastic!

This is the first Seven that I've read about that I would really like to build myself... In terms of V for M, this is a much more appealing story than the poor old Dacia Duster that has been obsessing many parts of the auto press.

Appealing for so many reasons: could Harris do a vid please? He expressed huge regret at not driving Caterhams often enough in the Mog/Caterham double header. Get out there and do it again, man!

greygoose

8,260 posts

195 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Seems good value, interesting to see a review in the dry.

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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I'm very much looking forward to feeling that steering talk to me, the way those long, narrow contact patches change shape as they squirm under the cornering loads.

Nothing feels as good as well designed manual steering on a light, modestly-shod car.

LimaDelta

6,520 posts

218 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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I like this a lot. Does anybody know why there seems to be no mention of it on the CC website?

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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HOW MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!

£14,995 for the kit that is awesome value.


I'm booking a test drive

Lowtimer

4,286 posts

168 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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greygoose said:
interesting to see a review in the dry.
Looking out of the window, I suspect we have have to wait until at least May for that...

Hellbound

2,500 posts

176 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Introducing the 'Dacia Seven'! hehe

LaurasOtherHalf

21,429 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Said it in the last thread, those steelies look brilliant!

CraigyMc

16,405 posts

236 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Cue a million posts about how to tune the engine up...

biggrin

Pat H

8,056 posts

256 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Excellent stuff.

A Seven that really appeals.

I'll have a full screen and some clamshells, please.

I built a Caterham Seven 1600VX back in 1999 and only paid £1000 less.

What fantastic value.

smile

Sid123

257 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Those wheels are hideous. I know Caterham are changing their current design as they are changing supplier but quite frankly taking the rims off some Suzuki pick-up is a big mistake. Simply being cheap is not an excuse for not looking cool.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

204 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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CraigyMc said:
Cue a million posts about how to tune the engine up...

biggrin
And why is it so expensive i can buy a brand new mass produced diesel hatchback for that much.

A light sprinkling of its not a proper sportscar as it hasn't got a V8 and or leather heated electric seat

A small dose of " I'll get wet !!"

And of course it hasn't got enough power

Furyblade_Lee

4,107 posts

224 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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There are a lot of kitcar maufacturers worried right now I am sure.

loudlashadjuster

5,123 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Love it!

Truly a Seven in its most pure form, turbo notwithstanding.

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Would a bike engine fit in that body? smile

Pan Pan

1,116 posts

127 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Bike engines have been used in Caterhams for years. e.g Fireblade Sevens.

TWPC

842 posts

161 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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LimaDelta said:
I like this a lot. Does anybody know why there seems to be no mention of it on the CC website?
Lima, it's here: http://uk.caterhamcars.com/cars/seven-160

Kolbenkopp

2,343 posts

151 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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McWigglebum4th said:
And why is it so expensive i can buy a brand new mass produced diesel hatchback for that much.
A light sprinkling of its not a proper sportscar as it hasn't got a V8 and or leather heated electric seat
A small dose of " I'll get wet !!"
And of course it hasn't got enough power
Lol, yeah wink. Also "It only does 100 mph, can you imagine that!?"

Looks fab really, kit price in UK is a steal IMO. Won't lose much value either I guess, so should prove to be rather affordable.
Hope there is a (legal) way around that screen issue on the Euro cars. The farking Eurocrats can't be serious really.

kambites

67,561 posts

221 months

Tuesday 22nd October 2013
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Pan Pan said:
Bike engines have been used in Caterhams for years. e.g Fireblade Sevens.
Yes I know, I asked whether one would fit in this one (which I believe is smaller than the body used for the four-pot cars).

Having said that, a Roadsport with those wheels and tyres would do me. smile

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 22 October 08:24