RE: BMW M5 (E34): Catch it while you can

RE: BMW M5 (E34): Catch it while you can

Thursday 20th March 2014

BMW M5 (E34): Catch it while you can

Though not as iconic as the E28, the values of second-gen M5s continue to rise



The early 3.6-litre E34-generation BMW M5 up for sale at a German classic car show looked more than a little forlorn. The car in question, a slightly faded dog knob red example, with a worn interior, but a little less than 100,000km showing on the speedo, almost looked like a bomb-site special car of the week that had been tarted up and pushed to the front of the lot. But the 17,500 euro sticker price on this car, for me, took steep to a new level. Or so I thought.

Just the 1 Hand from new? Perfect
Just the 1 Hand from new? Perfect
Don't get me wrong, I'm used to high used car prices in Germany, much of which is down to consumer protection legislation. This makes any mechanical issues with the car down to the seller to sort - and that's legally binding, even for private sellers and small-time traders. But my gut feeling that this was pricey was soon challenged. On closer inspection, there was an honesty about this M5, which according to the advert had been laid-up for a few years. For a start, it was wearing four premium Michelins on its immaculate Turbine alloy wheels - always a good sign - so, perhaps this wasn't so dear after all.

My friend Martin, a German market analyst, who loves these cars, confirmed that it's an honest enough price. 'Early E34 low-mileage M5s are very hard to find these days,' he said. 'And some enthusiasts are now paying well above book values to secure good, original examples.' This really got me thinking, especially as it doesn't seem that long ago that the PH Classifieds were littered with enthusiast-owned examples from as little as £3,000. These days, it would seem, are now long gone - and that this brilliant car became rare quite quickly, and it's on the upward curve in terms of market value. Time to catch it while you can?

B&W photos? Wow, '92 was a long time ago
B&W photos? Wow, '92 was a long time ago
There are two types of E34 M5, the early 3.6-litre examples, with 315hp and those iconic Turbine alloys, which is my favourite, and the later 340hp 3.8-litre cars with the 'Flying Star' alloys. Those cars had a few essentials added to the spec-sheet, most notably Electronic Damping Control, and - later - a six-speed gearbox, and was offered in a number of special editions.

Owning an old M5 does take financial commitment, there's no two ways about it. But here's the thing - if you buy wisely, choose an enthusiast-owned car that's been well-maintained, and stick a little in your war chest on a regular basis for when things go wrong, there's no reason why you shouldn't enjoy the best saloon money could buy 20 years ago. Servicing and general running is expensive, there's no getting away from this, but treat your M5 like a weekend cherished car, and not as your daily commuter (who would these days?) and that's much less of an issue. The starting point now seems to be about £5,000 these days, with the best dealer cars topping out at £15,000 - and the really leggy, grotty, and abused ones now seem to have met their maker.

Feeling brave?
Feeling brave?
Mind you, if you're feeling brave, PH has this £4,495 example at a dealer. If you look beyond the 187,000 miles showing and replacement engine it had a while back, it does all look present and correct, and has documented history to back-up its long life. This lovely Nurburgring edition is probably a safer bet though, fully documented at £14,995. With 119,000 miles, there might be some room for negotiation, especially in view of the LE with similar mileage that 4Star Classics is touting for £12,495.

All E34 M5s are fabulous, possessing one of the finest six-cylinder engines ever made and typically impressive dynamics. The engine is the M5's crowning glory, without a doubt - it pulls cleanly and hard, and loves to be driven hard, although - subjectively, I prefer the sound of the earlier car, and its lack of driver aids. All look properly understated - even today, an E34 M5 is a car that aficionados will nod knowingly at when they spot one.

Check the EDC dampers on later 3.8s
Check the EDC dampers on later 3.8s
Watch out for EDC dampers on later cars, which work a treat, but cost dearly - up to £1,500 a corner if you replace, rather than rebuild - if they go wrong. Make sure it works on a test drive - the car feels noticeably different between modes - and if it doesn't, either walk away, or negotiate a price that reflects the high cost of repair. Beyond that, make sure it revs cleanly and pulls smoothly throughout the rev range - if it doesn't, you'll be diagnosing costly ignition faults, and chasing new coil packs, sensors, throttle bodies and all manner of other parts.

But don't let that scare you. Like all E34s, the M5 is a car that's solid and beautifully engineered, and if all the big bits have been maintained, it promises to look after those who buy one to use sparingly. It's a car that'll just throw up the odd - and often costly - niggle now and then, and will demand you feed it the best fuel, and service it luxuriously, using the best materials. But the first time you get it on a long straight, and hold the throttle, you'll find it's all been worth it. All of a sudden, that 17,500 euro M5 is starting to look very tempting indeed.






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derin100

Original Poster:

5,214 posts

243 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Good article!

I'd also add to the list of cautions that one should inspect bodywork thoroughly. E34 M5s seem to suffer more rust issues than main factory built E34s.


will261058

1,115 posts

192 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Love both versios but the 340 gets the nod from me and its mostly down to the alloys. Turbines look more like trims to me. The "throwing stars" look much better and make the car look less slab sided IMHO.

cuda

464 posts

240 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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interesting you can buy the Nurburgring E34 for £14k - same as a 99k mile E60 V10...

Devil2575

13,400 posts

188 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I commented in a post just yesterday that values of the E34 are on the rise.

I think the value of any M car will rise once it becomes old and rare enough.

loudlashadjuster

5,107 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Almost bought one of these a few years ago, suffered from regret ever since.

There isn't too much between the 3.6 and 3.8 in terms of performance IMHO.

Fun fact about these cars: The wheels are actually an identical 5-spoke design in both the early and late cars, it's just the "wheel trims" (for want of a better phrase!) that differ. Hence, it's possible to change from turbines to throwing stars (or vice-versa) in a matter of minutes.

The later 18" M-parallels spoilt this, but are lovely in their own right.

Full-spec 6-speed Touring in Avus blue or Fjord grey for me, thanks cloud9

Save Ferris

2,685 posts

213 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Didn't one of these make SOTW a few years back?

pSyCoSiS

3,594 posts

205 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Beautiful cars - great article.

It has motivated me to get my 3.6 back on the road in the summer (just needs an MOT, Tax and a couple of niggly buts sorting).

Loads of money spent on it, and yes, they can be expensive to run.

They key is knowing a good E34 M5 Specialst (I have used Dave Olias at Classic MD Autos). He really is an oracle on these cars and wil source you anything you need for them.

I have seen the values increase recently and although you can pick some leggy ones up for £4k ish, the better ones are selling for £5k+.

rottie102

3,996 posts

184 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I took a similar photo of my ex 540 :



E34 are great cars!

anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I love these. Not enough to remortgage my house to be able to afford one, but they are the absolute epitome of late 80's motoring for me. A proper "machine", rather than a living room on wheels.

If I were the lottery winner, I'd have 2. One to abuse and one to polish to death.

Leins

9,461 posts

148 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Still goes like a bd! smile


anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I think this article missed the boat by a few years! E34 M5s used to be dirt cheap but they have been steadly going up for a while now.

belleair302

6,842 posts

207 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I had a 3.8 LE for five years, great cars but do need money spent on them to keep in good order. Sadly these are now older cars, still fun to drive but not a classic yet. Do I miss mine, not really, do I miss the bills, oh yes.



gingerbeard

101 posts

125 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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So what kind of ballpark running costs/bills per year are people looking at for one of these?

matthias73

2,883 posts

150 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I had an e34 525I when I spent a year in Canada. I liked it so much I intend on buying an identical one later in the year and using it primary for snowboard trips. Nostalgia is bloody pricy!

matthias73

2,883 posts

150 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I had an e34 525I when I spent a year in Canada. I liked it so much I intend on buying an identical one later in the year and using it primary for snowboard trips. Nostalgia is bloody pricy!

matthias73

2,883 posts

150 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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I had an e34 525I when I spent a year in Canada. I liked it so much I intend on buying an identical one later in the year and using it primary for snowboard trips. Nostalgia is bloody pricy!

crugbun

492 posts

218 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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'dog knob red'

Edited by crugbun on Thursday 20th March 20:19

WokkaWokka

698 posts

139 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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My Dad had one of these and loved it.

Someone crashed into the back of him and it knocked the oil belt or something (Not sure on the details) new engine was about 17K and he had paid that for the car from a Garage in Leeds.

JDMDrifter

4,041 posts

165 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Would love one of these in techno violet, saw an estate a few months back in that shade and i was in awe bow

Spaff

12 posts

149 months

Thursday 20th March 2014
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Still run my 2 owner 1990 version. I've had it 14 years now and I think I was lucky. I converted suspension to Koni all round, might have lost originality but no big bills! best car I've owned. Think she's up to 270,000kms now and still goes like a train when required.