Where to buy a safe?

Where to buy a safe?

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Spare tyre

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9,562 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I'd like a safe at home, I planning to bolt it to a concrete floor and brick wall and conceal it with a hidden wall jobbie

I plan to keep a little cash but mainly watches and some special coins I have

What's the ph recommendation, I want a key and none of this electronic stuff

Would lining the outside in plasterboard or similar make it fireproof at all


Thanks

Viper_Larry

4,319 posts

256 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,562 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Forgot to mention, I have this one already, I googled it and found that you could open it by thumping the top

http://www.hugheswholesale.co.uk/cathedral-ea15-sa...

It opened!

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Costco can be alright, but if you look elsewhere then be careful. Safes always seem to attract ridiculous valuations and foolishly high bids on auction sites, and IRL too.

If youre buying used (or new) then Id advise you to visit a local safe dealer. Their used prices will be far cheaper than second hand listings or auction sites tend to be and their advice invaluable. You will probably find that new can be bought there for less than used sells for elsewhere!

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Unless you want to spend mega money, ignore the fire proof ratings.

My father bought a safe for about £400 ish that said is was fire resistant for a n hour or two.

When movining house, the van caught on fire. It was burning for about half an hour before the fire brigade out it out. The few Euros in the safe were still recognisable but you wouldn't be able to spend them !

A concealed safe is a good way of keeping small amounts of cash or low value jewellery 'safe' from the cleaner and random intruder but you need something specialist for much more.

If you have high value stuff you want to store, talk to your Insurer and they can advise you.

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,562 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Viper_Larry said:
Thanks, sadly I don't have access to costco

-Pete-

2,892 posts

176 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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There are 3 types of safe. Standard high security safes rely on the thickness of steel to stop people opening them, so weight tells you a lot about the construction. Fireproof safes are designed to keep paper documents from catching fire, but are usually thinner steel with a lining material. Data safes are even lower security, but designed to keep CD's DVD's and tapes safe in a fire. The costco stuff and hotel room safes don't really qualify as 'safes' imo, youtube for evidence of how easy they are to open.

Most of the real brand name safes on eBay are a bargain, but you need to be able to transport them. Anything by Chubb, for rxample.

simplysafes.co.uk are good for new stuff, email them if you want advice.

Lynchie999

3,422 posts

153 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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someone needs to set up a Safe Selling Site called "The Safe House" ... getmecoat

Scousefella

2,243 posts

181 months

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,562 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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So, this for example

Is there a simple method to open it (other than big lever / cutting)

http://www.diy.com/departments/bq-key-operated-lar...


The place it's going to be kept is also where I have put the internal sounder for my alarm, so don't suspect they'll be there for long

condor

8,837 posts

248 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Best safes are the ones built into the ground...with very limited access biggrin

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Spare tyre said:
Forgot to mention, I have this one already, I googled it and found that you could open it by thumping the top

http://www.hugheswholesale.co.uk/cathedral-ea15-sa...

It opened!
A safe costing £34.99 isn't very safe. https://www.google.co.uk/?gws_rd=ssl#q=CATHEDRAL+E...

Who knew?

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Spare tyre said:
So, this for example

Is there a simple method to open it (other than big lever / cutting)

http://www.diy.com/departments/bq-key-operated-lar...


The place it's going to be kept is also where I have put the internal sounder for my alarm, so don't suspect they'll be there for long
I could open that in less than a minute.

The key to this is why you want the safe, if it is too keep your €200 left over holiday cash and a £200 watch in then yes that is adequate assuming it is secured to the floor/wall.

If you want to keep your collection of Omega seamasters in it then it is not, but better than nothing.

It really does come down to what you want to keep in the safe and why =)

Spare tyre

Original Poster:

9,562 posts

130 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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Jimmyarm said:
I could open that in less than a minute.

The key to this is why you want the safe, if it is too keep your €200 left over holiday cash and a £200 watch in then yes that is adequate assuming it is secured to the floor/wall.

If you want to keep your collection of Omega seamasters in it then it is not, but better than nothing.

It really does come down to what you want to keep in the safe and why =)
Yeah, nothing that valuable, just some euros, couple of hundred cash and a few odds and sods

I plan to leave my cheapy safe out on the side somewhere witha brick in it, so hopefully they'd take that rather than hunting about for my hidden one

Out of curiosity how do you open the key safe?

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

178 months

Tuesday 30th December 2014
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I should probably have said 'if I knew it was there or took it away' =) there is no magic involved, just some basic safe construction knowledge and a few tools =)

For your purposes, you want something concealed well and hard to remove from the premises.

Ease of access for yourself is obviously a consideration but you know your house best =)

Forget fire resistance, at these price points its non existant.

DCS01

350 posts

182 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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OP, try a gun shop, shotgun / rifle cabinets for big stuff. Ammo cabinets for papers, watches etc. Not fire proof but will meet insurance standards.
They are supposed to be bolted to the fabric of the building, floor, solid(brick)walls, roof joists etc. Most use a key and don't cost a lot.

nyt

1,807 posts

150 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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I have no idea about their quality, but MachineMart have a large range ....


https://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/search/filter/s...


camelot1971

2,699 posts

166 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Shame Costco UK don't sell the versions available in the US. Wonder what the shipping cost would be? biggrin

http://www.costco.com/Cannon-Safe-%7c-50-CuFt-%7c-...

Andy RV

304 posts

130 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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How about a 'proper' old safe!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221647015524

Eleven

26,271 posts

222 months

Wednesday 31st December 2014
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Andy RV said:
How about a 'proper' old safe!

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221647015524
When we bought a safe a while back, our supplier had a number of these old safes. They were refurbished but his advice was to buy a new one, which would be more resistant to the sort of attack possible with modern tools.