RE: Ford Focus RS - full details

RE: Ford Focus RS - full details

Tuesday 3rd February 2015

Ford Focus RS - full details

New Focus RS confirmed with rear-biased 4WD system and 300hp-plus - still want that Golf R?



Well bravo Ford. After more than two years of speculation over what drivetrain the nextFocus RS would get, the company has now announced what the majority of PHers have been wishing for: the new car will be four-wheel drive.

Civic Type R's job just got harder. Again.
Civic Type R's job just got harder. Again.
The tech spec of the RS is enough to make VWGolf R deal-hunters pause their search. Maybe even potential Mustang owners too. Or it would if the RS was coming any time soon - 2016 is all Ford would tell us.

As we guessed, the engine is the 2.3-litre turbocharged EcoBoost four as fitted to theMustang, but with the power boosted to "more than 320hp" thanks to an improved turbo with a larger compressor, as well as a larger intercooler to feed it. So it beats the Golf's 300hp and should sound good too, with Ford promising all the "burbles, pops and crackles that are an RS signature." The gearbox is a six-speed manual.

The Ford information sheet we got didn't go into too much detail about the four-wheel drive system, but it sounds very PH. For a start it comes with something Ford calls Dynamic Torque Vectoring on the rear axle that uses electric clutches to control the torque between front and rear axles and also between the left and right wheels at the rear.

Aggressive enough for you?
Aggressive enough for you?
This story having been written ahead of an in-the-metal reveal PH is attending today we'll be able to tell you more when we've had the chance to get up close and talk to the engineering team responsible. But from what we've read it sounds similar to the Dynamic Performance Control system BMW uses on fancier versions of its xDrive four-wheel drive models. Crucially this isn't the cheat's electronic vectoring that nips the brakes when it detects grip loss but one that redirects the power instead, so you aren't slowed.

We don't know whether it is a front-biased Haldex-type system, but it seems likely from Ford's blurb that power is being sent through the rear wheels for much for the time. For example Ford says the torque vectoring system will push torque to the outer rear wheel during cornering for better turn-in and stability. The company claims this "virtually eliminates understeer" and says the RS will achieve cornering forces approaching 1g.

Even better for the those of the sideways school of driving, Ford claims it offers "the ability to achieve controlled oversteer drifts at the track". With that much traction, there's a real possibility it could crack five seconds 0-60mph sprint time, although no performance figures were given ahead of the unveiling event.

This is a teaser - full story from reveal to follow
This is a teaser - full story from reveal to follow
How completely has the RS been reengineered underneath from an ST? When we spoke to the head of powertrain, Len Urwin, at what used to be Team RS (now all part of Ford Performance) back in 2012 he said that Ford's all-wheel drive systems were all this "inherently understeering" Haldex style, so it looks like they've bought in another drivetrain.

So far the only downsides for RS purists are the fact the lack of a three-door Focus in the current range means five doors are compulsory and the inevitable adoption of electrically assisted power steering. Progress is rapid in the latter so let's hope some steering feel has been engineered in.

Some other details Ford has released is that it'll come with "two-mode" switchable dampers and that the suspension (obviously) has been stiffened from that of the ST.

In looks, performance and tech it seems proper
In looks, performance and tech it seems proper
The car, which will be built in Germany, comes with 19-inch wheels and standard Recaro front seats, with Recaro 'shell' seats as an option. Exterior colours are blue, grey, black and white (the blue is not the same as the one pictured here, which is described as a "show-car colour" only).

We don't know about price yet. We can only assume that Ford will cover off the Golf R, which starts at £30,150. The R hasn't got the power or the premium pull of the 360hp Mercedes A45 AMG or the 367hp Audi RS3 Sportback (both 4WD), even though right now the RS is looking a sight more desirable, especially given that Ford traditionally limits numbers and that Focus RS Mk1 and Mk2 have held their values exceptionally well.

The marketing genius of the new RS is how well it feeds back into nostalgia for performance four-wheel-drive Fords of old. Better than that, it could even be cheaper - check out the price of this 1994 Escort RS Cosworth!

 

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macky17

Original Poster:

2,212 posts

189 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Switchable dampers. Rear-biased AWD. <£30k. OK, I'm in. Where do I sign up?

kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Looks decently priced compared to its direct competition.

It'll be interesting to see how it handles; making a rear-biased transverse-front engined 4WD car drive properly is something that relatively few manufacturers seem to have achieved.

richs2891

897 posts

253 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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3 door version with a manual gearbox available ?
% value after 3 years compared to the competition ?

Nickbrapp

5,277 posts

130 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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WANT

W00DY

15,491 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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It looks great in this shot.

Purchase an early one, run it for 6 months and sell with minimal loss I reckon.



kambites

67,556 posts

221 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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richs2891 said:
3 door version with a manual gearbox available ?
% value after 3 years compared to the competition ?
There's no three-door Focus at all, they aren't going to build a three-door body just for the RS.

No idea about residuals but previous RSs have fared pretty well.

Pixelpeep7r

8,600 posts

142 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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too much bling for me, other than that it seems to tick all the boxes.

nothing against ford for its looks, they will do very well with their target market i suspect.

Glad manufacturers are still churning out cars like these smile

macky17

Original Poster:

2,212 posts

189 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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I wonder if they'll fit Recaro seats which actually fit properly into the car this time.

stuckmojo

2,979 posts

188 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Surprised and impressed. Well done Ford!

AdamBingley

15 posts

144 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

the ST's interior's vile and don't get me started on the rattles.

but.. if your a ford fan-boy it does look good.

6 speed manual even with 320 HP will be slower than the DSG in an R.



Macadoodle

828 posts

133 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Good work Ford! It looks just as an RS should, and sounds great so far. It would appear that Ford have produced the perfect three car garage - Focus RS hot hatch, Mustang V8 coupe and the Ford GT supercar. Job done!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

249 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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AdamBingley said:
There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

the ST's interior's vile and don't get me started on the rattles.
I don't think Ford could build a car with more rattles than my Golf.

Mafffew

2,149 posts

111 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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AdamBingley said:
6 speed manual even with 320 HP will be slower than the DSG in an R.
Personally, I'd take manual over DSG any day. I can see the appeal of DSG, but it is nowhere near as fun or engaging as a proper manual.

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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I'll be putting one in the Garage if they keep the price where I want it, and I'll only be wearing my Nike Air Max to drive it.

I need a fun daily driver, it'll be a nice stablemate for the 2017 Raptor, The EcoBoost is a good engine despite having no place in a Mustang and most importantly I'm willing to take a gamble on it being more fun than the Golf R, which I also like but didn't love (I actually preferred the GTI).

I love that Ford have found the balls to throw even more fun vehicles out there.

Limpet

6,309 posts

161 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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AdamBingley said:
There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.
I think you'll find there's every chance it will be.

rev-erend

21,414 posts

284 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Sounds good .. and the looks are growing on me already.

Just need to see if there are doing any colour other than that boring blue.

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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rev-erend said:
Sounds good .. and the looks are growing on me already.

Just need to see if there are doing any colour other than that boring blue.
As per the article, the blue isn't the same blue they'll be releasing it with, also available in Grey, Black and White.

The Vambo

6,643 posts

141 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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AdamBingley said:
There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.
Is that the famous VAG group real life mechanical quality or the pretend squishy plastic not really important type quality?

RyanTank

2,850 posts

154 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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AdamBingley said:
There's no way that the Quality of the Golf R will be matched by a ford.

the ST's interior's vile and don't get me started on the rattles.

but.. if your a ford fan-boy it does look good.

6 speed manual even with 320 HP will be slower than the DSG in an R.
You've been lurking here for 3 years, looking every time a Focus RS announcement is made, hoping and wishing it was 4wd, just to make that post about a golf R being better haven't you! wink

A quick look at the profile and he drives a Golf R. coincidence? scratchchin

CharlesAL

532 posts

124 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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No green option?! cry